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bib – fuck. I am impressed.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 02.10.2009
bkk – the little things. getting laid is just par for the course
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 01.10.2009
j – pick up artist
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 01.10.2009
rm – possibly…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 01.10.2009
gmac – in the PUA world holding the drink too high means you are not open to meeting people.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 01.10.2009
hey faldo – try using the forum for these COMPLETELY off topic things in the future. Or better yet follow the mexican’s workout advice.Thanks.
hunch – great story.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 30.09.2009
The Fallout Over ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’: Blunders, Recriminations & Naiveté
bb – what I am saying is no one should make any of these shows – not even the one that was made for the very reasons u mention.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 26.09.2009
Big Trouble in Thailand – Thoughts from a video editor
prof – true. self inflicted issues indeed. pumping up their own country wont fix it – they need to bury the hatchet and move forward but I dont that will happen.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.09.2009
pg – I think Obama has a enough bills to last a century or two…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.09.2009
prof – great points indeed. the disturbing thing is most of what ails thailand is totally self inflicted and could be corrected but instead fighting over temples(which is just the hi-so thais struggling with the realization that most things thai descend from cambodia), the elite trying to maintain their position of control and the government forever ill-equipped to break out from being a military controlled country. So they fight over things that don’t matter while the rest of asia pulls ahead. Not sure the final chapter is even close to be written so I dont think one can write the place off yet – as a place for business or tourism.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.09.2009
rb – buddy – john obama has nothing to do with the show so I am not getting your angle here. moving on now…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.09.2009
hh – u make some fine points and I agree with them if the makers of BTIT were trying to make the place better but that was not their goal at all
I on the other hand applaud Thai and international media that exercise what is left of freedom of the press to shine light on these issues so that they can be solved.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 24.09.2009
ed – true but that inverse relationship is what makes it all so bad in my opinion. the worse they portray thailand the better the show does. The better it does the more people will be down on thailand. kind of sucks in my opinion. hopefully Gavin can enjoy the beaches of Laos on his future trips to SE Asia.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 24.09.2009
The Fallout Over ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’: Blunders, Recriminations & Naiveté
bb – I am pretty sure that is not what I said. okay – start with the boiler rooms then…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 24.09.2009
7 – great points but the show is hardly about the real scams in thailand. I would be all for them going after the known scams. they should start with the police.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 24.09.2009
pg – I think every has those. had a friend in england who was shagging hte “normal” girls who was plagued with phone calls for months
too funny
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.09.2009
bb – u r the first person to cry foul. it was only a matter of time
we may change it to the mcduffer – in hopes that it offends all the idiots of the world
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.09.2009
bb -
So, on the whole, I do think that the cost of insurance will be affordable as it’s not in the best interests of the insurance companies to price their customers out of business.
wow. landlords price tenants out all the time, hotels price out customers – pricing out demand happens all the time in thailand
my point is the corruption will move into a different part of the overall deal
now that the jetski operators are gov mandated to buy insurance the insurance guys will now soak the jetski guys
I am not defending the scene but for sure that is what will happen
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.09.2009
bb – good points but on the insurance thing since this will now be gov mandated do u really think that the insurance companies will charge a fair price?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.09.2009
jl – I was not even in a tourist area in indo. I see your point but life is about balance
I do not believe in the slightest that this show is anything about “reality” or balance
my guess is some good will come out of it and that is cool but so will a lot of bad
and i think some of those associated with it might live to regret it
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 19.09.2009
l – its funny. I kept waiting for him to even swear in thai and he never did
seems rather odd…
not even one ayehear or ayesat
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 19.09.2009
sil – i did not say u cant have your opinion. u obviously do and I am not here cause it is scam central and dangerous
it is not
I spent 2 night held by some regional authorities in indonesia over a scam
do I think indo is bad and will I never go back
not at all
this show is over the top and is highlighting over the top shit
and yes – that is my opinion
each to his own right?
I also think the notion of scams is totally different than personal safety
so to act like this is a dangerous place is just plain wrong
I also love how most people depicted in the videos are western drunks, scammers and drug dealers who end up in thailand. which sucks really but such is life…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 19.09.2009
jl – totally agree. this is the side of it that is so silly
corruption being so endemic that people think it is okay
I like the freewheeling notion of thailand and the liberties it provides – driving drunk should not be one of them
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 19.09.2009
sil – u are exactly why this video is a bad idea. Thailand is a great place and most of the time nothing happens here. any more than anywhere else
I don’t think families need to go to pattaya – maybe anymore than they should go to vegas
so in typical over the top sensationalist fashion – gavin and team showed a slice of the bad – with nothing about the good
this could happen anywhere. Should I not go to america because of cops?
please. as usual there won’t be any balance to the reporting. much in the way BBC always harps on thailand
hopefully good stuff will come out of this video but if people have the attitude that you have it will be sad for thailand
like I keep saying – hopefully gavin and team will announce when they have been blacklisted from thailand just to round of the “dose” of reality
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 19.09.2009
btw ghost – this was a great writeup…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 18.09.2009
comb – I think the jetski scene was forced in a way by creating a situation for the camera that was no indicative of how it might have gone done if the royal naval guys had tried to deal with it they way they normally do. which is through local attaches who usually make the problem go away. that’s all – this is not to say something like what happened is not possible but I think it was somewhat forced.
I am surprised though that no matter how it all happened that people would be shocked the thai government is wanting to cover it all up. I hope gavin and team make some cash from this since a lot of the thais involved are probably facing a lot of issues in the future for helping out on this “project”. My guess is gavin and team are also not so welcome in thailand anymore.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 18.09.2009
Big Debate Over ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’ (+ the Producer Responds)
naki – do tell what positive could possibly come out of this? unless you count gavin getting blacklisted from coming to thailand ever again
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 18.09.2009
24 – u see them working craigslist all the time. And these are huge scams. fake officea, fake factories and so on. sure the thais are involved in the payoffs but in sheer numbers the farangs using thailand to rip of other farangs, your grandparents, would in one month eclipse the total amount of dollars scammed for all the tourists in thailand for a year.
no one talks about this cause it is not glamorous enough and is not as easy as the low hanging fruit – like showing thais scamming someone in phuket
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 18.09.2009
f – yup. sensationalist crap
andrew biggs from bkk post debunked that number
it also includes old guys who died of natural causes
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.09.2009
The BARANG Drinks 2 Much – Part Two of Two
n – since PP was looking like there was no reason to go before – for sure there seems to be no reason at allbesides happy pizza and “cheap” beer
thanks for the update though. much appreciated
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.09.2009
Big Debate Over ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’ (+ the Producer Responds)
this is “reality TV”http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7ed_1243150860
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.09.2009
rb – sure – u can make a simple comparison like that but in the way u make it then u dont get thailand
its all about face, corruption is rampant. everyone knows it. thats how the place works. don’t like it – don’t deal with it
usually tourism is sheltered from it but not always – look at the aiport mess
not saying tourists don’t scammed, they do, just like in any SE asian country. in my experience indonesia is way worse
the farang did admit to bashing it so he should pay right?
jj will probably live to regret being on the show since if the thais want to skewer someone now it will be him
my initial point I never made is I HIGHLY DOUBT that jetski situation would have gone down the way it was setup to be – and I mean setup
usually when any of the military guys get in scraps the military police or attaches will call in the local military for aid
I know some guys who are the liaisons for these situations – so before they have problems usually they go in heavy and the locals back down
so in this case had it been handled properly, not setup for a “show”, JJ would have been forced to talk to thai military guys.
tell me how that would have turned out. chances are, since the kid lied, jj would have been put down gently and the military guys would have skated off scott free
so in that scenario the thais are getting screwed due to the close relationship of the two militarys.
that is the “reality” of the situation rather than it being portrayed that the thais are screwing the military boys
many times the military boys are running around causing trouble and usually get away with it
sure no one will admit this and I am sure others will deny it but that it is the truth – or the reality so to speak
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.09.2009
not – for sure each to his own. i find than when the “flips” talk I want to put a sock in their mouth…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.09.2009
Big Debate Over ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’ (+ the Producer Responds)
24 – they have to deny. I find it hilarious that people thing thailand would put their stamp of approval on thisthis is thailand for god’s sake
why doesn’t someone do a reality series on the boiler rooms in thailand. let me know how that goes
more foreigners are hurt from that, foreigner inflicted as well, than any of the “normal stuff” that goes on in thailand
on this subject I am sure the thai authorities would be very cooperative
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.09.2009
mg – u are free to voice your opinions. no offense taken at all
he has to make it vanilla – in fact he can’t show u the truth. if he did he would get kicked out of thailand or worse
we all know the reality of things is in some sense much worse but at the same time the reality of things is sometimes brought on by the foreigner. not the locals
for the 4 years of biz here – if I wrote a book about it I would have to leave 90% of it out. or change my name and leave the country
think a few good men – “u can’t handle the truth.”
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.09.2009
f – I am sure it is safe but for those used to the thais. someone not used to it might find the place pretty weird on a sunday but probably safecan u give us a run down on the thai discos there? I thought there was only one?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.09.2009
Big Debate Over ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’ (+ the Producer Responds)
gavin – no offense would u be pleased if u were thailand or the police? doubtfuleven cops in america does not show the dirty cops – no one would allow it but we all know they are there
personally I think the show is far removed from the “reality” of thailand
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.09.2009
sukdog – chill.indo
viet
thai
flip
japmy whole world is acronyms. that is how I survive. there is no offense in it. i am not calling it to their faces and well – its affectionate
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.09.2009
Big Debate Over ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’ (+ the Producer Responds)
pg – if u put time codes on it I wont even have to watch it
a reality TV show about guys living there normal lives would be way more interesting IMHO
entourage set in bkk
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.09.2009
d – bahasa is no different but any of it better than the twang of cantonese
ht – sure. but I like gray.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.09.2009
Big Debate Over ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’ (+ the Producer Responds)
pg – I think he loosely means to say thailand is stuck in a time warp. kind of like robinson’s department store – the jewelry section – the area with all the manwomenI mean I think that is what he meant to say but it also could be the director of cops trying to pump up the new series -
cops in mukdahan – mekong miseries…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.09.2009
comb – i dont think the drug bust is a thai/not thai thing. U have to be smart enough to know that if u get busted u immediately start offering to pay. thai or not – once u let it get to the police station u are in trouble. once they start processing paperwork they cant easily let u off since others see it. pay early is the key. they blew it.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 14.09.2009
Ladies and Light Night this Saturday
suk – no. he is not MIA since I saw him on the street and I know he is training with YP
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.09.2009
Banglamung’s Pattaya Circus #4: Dumb Farangs & Crooked Thai Guys
bang – sorry. was not trying to hijack the postI will save my comments for my mythbusters post
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.09.2009
jb – interesting. he does not even look thai but you could tell that whole exchnage was fony
the thai guys would rarely mess with the military one the MIL police get involved since they always roll with the thai attaches as well
total shit
it is entertainment but to purport that it is the way thailand is just is a huge joke
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.09.2009
jb – it is so made up it is borderline hilarious
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.09.2009
db – actually not as much as u think but yeah everyone in trouble is a brit except for one american
it is more the fake shit, the made up shit and the not real shit that I can’t believe
watch it before I pen my mythbusters retort to it
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.09.2009
jesus – that bravo show is like the biggest crock of shit I have ever seen
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.09.2009
bit done. GOing to check out the famed tourist police. this should be funny
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.09.2009
cb – thanks!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.09.2009
pg – was trying to find it on bit torrent – any luck?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.09.2009
db – so true like reading those newspaper from the UK – thing is with this stuff I know no one needs to make it up
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.09.2009
wow. what a post
I always laugh at the weirdos who come into a go-go or bar with the goodie bag. just seems so silly
banging your own staff? we should keep a list of bars like that so I know which ones to avoid like the plague.
sick
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.09.2009
Are Thai people cool? by Jeezo
nr – interesting. for me what others think is cool is not so not sure this cool barometer even works
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 08.09.2009
A Fraction of a Second by Hunch644
I would say that cboy has evolved a bit and gets better and better so give everyone their fair shot IMHO
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 08.09.2009
Ladies and Light Night this Saturday
norbert – as always we appreciate your helpful words. it was a good party despite the failed FL attempt but hey we are pretty open and honest about it alldon’t really appreciate u slagging our employees though but comments like this make sense coming from u.
as to YP – well, he can handle himself
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.09.2009
pmmp – I tried hitting on them but M would not decide which one he wanted to take home so kind of messed it up for me
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.09.2009
Are Thai people cool? by Jeezo
my dad is cool… but he ain’t thai
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.09.2009
brad – try some blog rtfm for place to goas to the season – sept normally begins the high season, but nothing is normal anymore. the weather starts to get cooler and the rain should ease up
not a bad time at all
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.09.2009
b – yeah. mid season is better but this is shitty low season and I think some of the girls just gave up
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.09.2009
wom – sure. something like that
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.09.2009
comb – been around enough to know what a lolitas girl can do but still – the daytime crew is looking rather motley
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.09.2009
j – there are some cuter girls working at night in my opinion.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.09.2009
b – it is not just lolitas. it is happening all over. the smart girls know that staying in bkk costs more if u are not getting enough customers than just return home for a while. if u are next to your mom everyday it is hard for her to ask for money as well. i have girls that are living outside of bkk cause it is cheaper and just getting FL work as needed rather than trying to be at the bar everyday with no punters. weird but true
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.09.2009
c – always was if I take the soi 8/6 cutover since I lived on 23 before – just closer now
I tend to walk down soi 4 though since I need to swing through the post office
right now the daytime crew at lolitas is not my thing…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.09.2009
b – roomate. married / gf – please. I am SSB
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.09.2009
rr – I take it when u are here u are on holiday and have all the time in the world?
between school, work, gym and so on ari meant lots of packed train time since cabbing in and out of ari sucks
bottom line though the deal on soi 12 was better – the thais running things out the ari way do not seem to realize there is a recession going on. the lower suk boys certainly do
the pad is cooler, can walk to everything and we got a better deal
i would love to live out further but right now it is just not convenient. one chicks see the pad I dont think I will have any objections.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 02.09.2009
dl – correct. we blesses the proper way
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 02.09.2009
jd – no monks. thank god.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 02.09.2009
sjw – it is a funny system
the fl is a winner indeed. thanks
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 02.09.2009
Are Thai people cool? by Jeezo
I did not know steve mcqueen was thaishit – that is cool
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 01.09.2009
2much – not sure I get that. so I guy who partakes in the scene is a sex pat? what are all thais called who hit the soapie 3 times a week? normal
I reckon one can hang with cool people and still do there thing
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 31.08.2009
k – buddy. go on ebay and buy a clue. thanks.
craiglist might have some for free but might be quicker to try ebay
thanks
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 30.08.2009
I just think the idea of cool is subjective so not sure what I think is cool is what others think is cool
usually what others think is cool would be something I might avoid – like the plague
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 30.08.2009
jeezo – bodyslam is cool
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 30.08.2009
Going from Experienced to Jaded by John Brown
dlk – right out of private dancer. the idea that we all do lima bravos eventually…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.08.2009
jeezo – http://www.bigmangobar.com/reader-submissions/
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.08.2009
db – sure . move on isnt going back to the motherland. I guess my point was people should separate the move to “thailand” from the “i hate where I live”. its a free world. get a new job somewhere else. not that big a deal really in my book. i like being an expat – meaning not living where I am from. that’s all.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 26.08.2009
db – not sure I get the jaded thing. some us have chosen, some 10+ years ago, to be an expat. I think being an expat works for some and does not for others
it is not a country thing – it is how u to choose to live your life.
jaded – make me live in the states again and u will see jaded…
not sure how people can choose what is the best option for others
as my older but wiser friend has always told me. are u happy in the morning – if not . fix it.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 26.08.2009
lmw – I do think taking time off and doing something cool is bad at all. just have a plan – dont leave it open ended.my suggestion is figure out a long time plan for working and living in asia – whether it be thailand or not
if you got computer skills you can find a gig but you have to look
the path to death is pretty concrete so why not do something cool along the way?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 26.08.2009
Going from Experienced to Jaded by John Brown
k – ying and yang baby
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 26.08.2009
1 Way to ‘Achieve the Dream’, Relocate to Thailand & Train for a New Career
jb – there u go again. I did not see it as an advert and ghost contributes a bunch to the blog. if some people find some interest then coolunlike many farang I know in thailand – people like the ghost help other farangs and I think doing the same thing is cool
farangs in thailand are all about tearing each other down. u seem to be in a similar mode at times.
readers are smart enough to decide for themselves if this info helps them or not and the 3 posts about this are creating records traffic and high comments
unlike yours – most of them have been very positive or helpful or poke holes in the theory but not the poster
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 26.08.2009
lmw – its not easy at all
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 26.08.2009
fluke – already ate there. our tables were getting flooded by the tide. was awesome. food not amazing but the view makes up for it
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 26.08.2009
pb – I think the investment took a bit less than then now. I always wished I was more aware of thailand during the crash and had bought some things up.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.08.2009
1 Way to ‘Achieve the Dream’, Relocate to Thailand & Train for a New Career
db – with all the stuff I can remember doing at tulips I think you should not be diving there.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.08.2009
pb – smart move but easier done in the 90′s then now unless u got some serious cash – no?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.08.2009
j – he is not a big bull at all.read his article in FT times today – he is predicting a double dip recession – which will in turn affect the whole globe again
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.08.2009
indu – sorry to offend and yes – I helped open up an engineering center in beijing for BEA – now oracle. small companies in case u have not heard of them
funny all the stuff the gov throws at the big corps to get them there in then follows through with very little.
also love how the gov will protect local companies who steal code but won’t protect real products with real IP
starting to change with the big case MSFT just won but there is a long way to go
not saying I am an expert but most people – guys like nouriel roubini – seem to have some similar opinions on china but hey – I will stop enthralling now…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.08.2009
LMW – I have always told people with the asia itch just get to asia. for me I got to hk and china for a while and that is when I fell for SE asia but settled on thailand. it has not been easy but I still value the experience and am glad I have done it. I think learning the language is worth it – I regret not learning more chinese in hk but I was on the road too much. thai has a similar tonal structure and grammar so it wont hurt to know it. I still plan on tackling chinese next.
u only live once – that is true indeed…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.08.2009
greg – china is smoke and mirrors. so are the banks.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 24.08.2009
more on google for u:http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/22/nsfw-say-what-you-like-about-the-google-books-kool-aid-but-it-tastes-much-better-than-microsofts-sour-grapes/
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 24.08.2009
bkkt – some of us who have been in companies competing with MSFT have a certain view of things – whether others buy into it or not
google is starting to employ the very same tactics on the internet
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 24.08.2009
k – pretty simple. just think MSFT of the internet
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 24.08.2009
jb – van, no gogos
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 23.08.2009
msb – nice. C4 was just for show? getting juicier.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 22.08.2009
rr – its about 1hr 45 I think. bang saen is 1 30 right? si ratcha is cool but need to poke the nightlife more. so far the nightlife in bang saen seems better.
good info though – thanks!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 22.08.2009
p – thanks for the info but just sounds like a remodeled version of the same thing. so many better options now.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 22.08.2009
pg – that was what I was going to say. they say they work which is different than us playing to fool around. right…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 22.08.2009
mart – the coffee shop – not the pub
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 22.08.2009
Bangkok Turning Off Pattaya’s Lights at 3 a.m. for 10 Days
pg – I imagine that venue is screwed now
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 22.08.2009
br – so much though that, even you, feel the need to comment on itprops
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 22.08.2009
p – thanks for the tip. PB used to be the only AF game in town in that area but not anymore. PB is okay if you need food and pool but when it comes to FL selection and music I think it is not that great anymore. It became almost an extension of Long Gun and Rawhide but maybe this is changing?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.08.2009
bbb – I think it all depends on the circumstances. If the goal is a shag and back out then yes – they wash just the essentials but if they are cunted and land in the showers I find they tend to really scrub up.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.08.2009
dkbkk – bargirl trading cards are what I had in mind but I do get tired of seeing one of my therapists walking the road of shame with another client, whilst calling me a butterfly even if I am only out for a drink, but yet she is just – “working”.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.08.2009
ish – we feel for u bro
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.08.2009
rd – thanks. I think you hit the nail on the head – the uni towns are fun. one of my friends says bang saen vibe reminds me to the khon kaen vibe a bit.>>>>I would imagine it is the same in Baeng Saen. Still, from what i have experienced, these are not first night shags you will be getting.
exactly I dont get the people who say oh wow. u went out and did not score the first night. Most times you dont unless you hit it lucky or the girl is a semi-pro. so going out meeing girls, getting numbers and getting second passes is the goal when it comes to normal girls. If she goes home with me on the first night I meet her in a club she is not a normal girl. there are exceptions to the rule but most decent, educated thai girls are not doing one night stands but yes – it can happen.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.08.2009
ld – yeah. something like – butterfly < helicopter < airport
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 18.08.2009
yp – talk to heckler
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 18.08.2009
jj – we went to galaxy.
will check out happy world and also want to check cupid spa
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 18.08.2009
the man – u get laid at the soapie. doh.
then I scored some numbers for the next day.
then I went out to get hammered.
where are u now?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 18.08.2009
db – so u got off the boat and then got on the bus back to bkk. were u confused?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 18.08.2009
gmac – thanks!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 18.08.2009
rrr – thanks for the support. currently checking ebay for a pair – send me some links if you see some real steely looking pairs.
already had my sights set and had been to the soapie. so the night out was just for partying and getting to know some clubs. Once again – pulling is not the only goal at times. contrary to popular belief. shoot me…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 18.08.2009
jd – different town, different soapie
that was too take the edge off knowing that trolling for normal girls would be more difficult
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.08.2009
Bangkok Turning Off Pattaya’s Lights at 3 a.m. for 10 Days
dw – nice one
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.08.2009
w- 2 days at the MCG during a 5 day test in lifetime seats getting schooled. thanks
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2009
Bangkok Turning Off Pattaya’s Lights at 3 a.m. for 10 Days
mart – so very true.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2009
mid – u always love to interpret and steer everything too some form of politics. I was just merely joking about the yank term and feel most yanks are those living in the states not the more worldly type who happen to be from the states. I love my US passport but the treatment down at the embassy for US citizens is more than lacking.sorry you read so much into it…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2009
j -pmmp would have carried on
bang saen is pretty dead during the week but busy on the weekends. i reckon w-f is perfect for hunting at night or lining up some dates from waitresses
there is the soapie to let some steam off prior to hunting
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2009
im – no pics. I am not a big pic and tell type of blogger.
off the reservation – not sure I get the term but if you mean why go to bang saen – I had some business meetings there.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2009
heckler – u forgot the late night eating stand waitress. I am on to her.
I guess I need to find my own place to stay next time?
“she” was huge – more of a total eclipse than a cock block…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2009
yp – we had no time for gym research and usually u r too cunted to make it up in the morning anyway but yes – there is an LB scene indeed as heckler pointed out
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2009
km – we covered ban chang
http://www.bigmangobar.com/reader-submissions/2009/01/31/black-gold-by-on-nutter/
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2009
pru – it is a flat area so wheelchairs no problem. I am sure your thai would benefit from a weekday run to see all the bang saen entails.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2009
Bangkok Turning Off Pattaya’s Lights at 3 a.m. for 10 Days
tom – the current crackdown, pattaya only, is not normal but it is a police state and drugs are illegal – so yes if they suspected you and wanted to piss test u they could. normally they dont but if you are busted with stuff be prepared to open the wallet or make a trip to the ATM. Or go to jail. This is pretty much the norm in asia. the country is not broke so they dont need to legalize drugs to pay their bills.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2009
j – a real man would have carried on.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2009
Bangkok Turning Off Pattaya’s Lights at 3 a.m. for 10 Days
rr – I was over MJ when he was still alive. yes – way too much MJ. done with it. of course there was that one late night in the mango with daywalker…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2009
jt – I am a 10 year expat/refugee. I have no nationality
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2009
km – I have been there just focusing on it more. whats a yank?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2009
Bangkok Turning Off Pattaya’s Lights at 3 a.m. for 10 Days
vt – kind of sucks in that regard. dont count it as one of the party cities but bkk is and does not stay open late. hk, sing, china, indo, phil and such do
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.08.2009
jd – i meant to say only but in theory its the same deal. not sure why my entire night out has to revolve around the pull. for instance maybe I pulled daytime and banged to my hearts content for the sheer purpose that the night time was for partying. I may still find something but at some point I dont care.
still none of this makes curfews cool. never.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.08.2009
d and w – I am sure u guys are trying to be funny but life is not about the pull. Some of us just want to party all night and have a blowout.
more importantly this is just bad for biz and continues to show how thailand is ruining their tourism industry by being inconsistent and by not growing up. the rest of asia – even china – is open all night. why not thailand? this silly 1 week crackdown is for show in the pu yai circles – but all it does is show tourists that thailand is run by thugs and is not the place to go and have a nice vacation since you won’t know when u can drink, how late u can stay up and when u might run into the BIBs for doing nothing more than having a good time.
its pathetic
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.08.2009
Interesting. Not good for the month at all. There are rumors of an impending big police shuffle which may have something to do with this but I have not seen anything unusual in Bangkok and late night seems to be okay.
fun fun
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.08.2009
looks to me like tube8 is back
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 13.08.2009
z – planet bkk.beadeddropletswithsaltycrystals – I am stunned. I mean the few times I have seen midget porn by accident I freaked out. Of course daywalker loved it but that’s another story. But pygmies? that is freaky man. anyway – tried the handshake on a tuk tuk guy outside patpong and I was whisked away to king’s 3 and forced to get numerous lapdances by the “chicks” with dicks. Fuck man. Now I am traumatized. I was just practicing but I guess I fucked it up. Will practice more on my security guards at 5 in the morning before dawn’s light to see if I can perfect it before heading out to Pantip. If anyone beats me to it can u just post some up on youtube?
peace.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 12.08.2009
ht – great as in what way? to make money? only if you could charge for it – even sites as large as tagged are barely getting by. tragged.com would have to charge the guys but be free for the um – “girls”.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.08.2009
yp – not bitter at all nor do I have issues with the lbs or the lb slayers but I have no interest in them at all
could be a niche site – lb social network for asia.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.08.2009
yp -sorry yp. those of us not into the chicks with dicks tend to feel they get in the way – esp when they pose as girls – which they aren’t
I think they should be labled LB(cut/uncut) to make it easier to sort them out
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.08.2009
docbond – it was the star trek shirt. killed me.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.08.2009
ht – pretty easy to sort that out and most times I search for things so the KT issue has no bearing. I rarely accept any friend requests unless the girl or her friends are hot
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.08.2009
un – it is wigga not nigga. thanks.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.08.2009
msb – yp even gets paid from tagged girls. its an online meat market.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.08.2009
jd – carmel boy relocated to sacto. wetback is the fresno boy. for soi 4 folks -anything outside of lower suk is cambodia. not laos
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.08.2009
j – thanks. will check it.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.08.2009
f – saw some apple models on the train with their little folders. nice.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.08.2009
msb – tagged is the fountain of free puss in thailand
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.08.2009
a – register with what site?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.08.2009
My Visit To The Kathoey Youth Foundation University by Pants Elk
db – is that like a modified form of jester shoes?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.08.2009
pe – awesome stuff. I am still laughing. there are so many little one liners in there I have to reread it. this is great!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.08.2009
Bloggers Appreciation Night this Saturday
f – I was quite shocked until the one next to me in class borrowed my homework. she speaks great thai and with a great accent but can’t read or write any better than I can. love it.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.08.2009
My Big Tattooed Pattaya Wedding
j – now u are making me feel bad.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.08.2009
10 Steps to Banging G-Club Coyote Girls for under 1500 Baht by Fender
dw – I have them work on my tattoos.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.08.2009
More bad news about Thailand & is PP clamping down?
s – the mac or the person using it was okay?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.08.2009
d – penfold has the same shirt or it says I am a cunt. not sure . same difference I guess since penfold is jesus.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.08.2009
j – thanks but I am a big fan of school. met so many people via school. books are kind of well – boring.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.08.2009
10 Steps to Banging G-Club Coyote Girls for under 1500 Baht by Fender
sandman – u and the man are so right on this. I can’t believe I have been so wrong. bedding down hotties who actually can read and write there own language, pay for dinner now and then and dont mind shagging without the ubiquitous working girl pre shower sucks. I am wasting my time. I appreciate you guys setting us straight. Back to the go-go bars for me.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.08.2009
My Big Tattooed Pattaya Wedding
j – not sure who is has more taste in your scenario. the villagers or the dude buying a rice paddy girl a mil baht in gold. i have my opinions on it.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.08.2009
Bloggers Appreciation Night this Saturday
im – I dont recall us every censoring a blogger – we censor comments. best way to stay out of jail.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.08.2009
f – I have simply chosen to take my classes where there is a campus full of babes. that is such a struggle to understand?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.08.2009
dj – I am just taking the reading writing and so far the teacher and the course is cool. as stated to begin with I am not sure I like there speaking classes either. UTL comes from the mormon offshoot classes and there program is quite good and no focus on religion at all.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.08.2009
Bloggers Appreciation Night this Saturday
the man – I am there to get good at thai and hit on the luk krungs. I did the marriage thing once – unlike you I learned my lesson the first time. cya at the party.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.08.2009
the man – you meant to say I am too pussy whipped now to go out cause I ran out of hall passes. thanks
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.08.2009
i – farang sausage fest. not too many thai males in the bar besides the cooks…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.08.2009
My Big Tattooed Pattaya Wedding
o – yes. it can be figured it but we are not putting it in writing. that’s why they are being deleted. should be obvious. thanks!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 05.08.2009
s – given the andrew b style I thought he would dig YP?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 05.08.2009
gs – the RW courses at AUA are for GP 6 prep. so that is the plan.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 05.08.2009
prof – every school is about the teacher. the thing I liked about aua is the classes are only an hour and u can take your pick. places like UTL mix the reading and writing together and require at least 3 hours a day plus homework. I dont have the time. aua reading/writing is 1 hour for each level per day 5 days a week. seems doable. right now I have a teacher from udon who is just great. I am eating in the lounge and hanging about. tons of quim. however I am not sure I like the way advanced listening is taught at AUA but maybe I am just not used to it yet.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 05.08.2009
My Big Tattooed Pattaya Wedding
i – yeah. the singer killed me. so funny
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 05.08.2009
cboy – it is well known that anytime cops see 2 farangs going at it that they will treat them both the same and as if they are both wrong. that is why all the bars have thai guys around to do the shit kicking. and yes – if a thai kicks a farangs ass – no one seems to care. that is the downside.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 05.08.2009
My Big Tattooed Pattaya Wedding
pg – amen
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 05.08.2009
as – don’t think it is that bad but what is weird is it seems he chose not to take his flight. strange. if the family is really concerned one would think they would get their own PI to look into it. people do that even in america – land of the “good cops”.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 05.08.2009
jd – it is a combined exercise
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 05.08.2009
My Big Tattooed Pattaya Wedding
rb – thanks for the assist
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.08.2009
ht – it aint the later
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.08.2009
cboy – was not talking about myself. was talking about u encouraging one of our star contributors to hang it up for his own blog. he is happier now. lose it.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.08.2009
The 12 Days of My Trip to Bangkok by fender
te – amen. been all over china. give me a tw girl anyday. more style and just something about them…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.08.2009
My Big Tattooed Pattaya Wedding
cboy – dont take my writing talent away. thankspg is just fine where he is and he is happier for it
orange rocks – canadian twat
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.08.2009
pg – unless there are kids and u need some legal framework – I see no point in marriage at all.
bbb funny? must be an english thing
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.08.2009
wpd – there are indeed but the important question is why is anyone getting married?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.08.2009
I thought it was funny. Why make funny shit up when the spectacle itself is just – over the top.
the teachers at the end just digging in is so Pattaya – or is it so English school teacher. not sure yet.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.08.2009
The 12 Days of My Trip to Bangkok by fender
f – I think you meant to say that next time in town u plan on throwing a nurses outfit party?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.08.2009
j – mine was this nurse but I did not know she was a nurse.
my friend jumped the q though due to his imperfect, but flowing mandarin, and they left me alone at the grand hyatt bar
it was not until morning until he told me that when she went to freshen up – she emerged in a nurses outfit
she thought it would make things fun
fucking hate nurses now
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.08.2009
I have always said the hottest chinese are in taiwan…
hands down
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.08.2009
jesus – where to start
hanging at nataree is cool. I am glad to see others enjoying the ways of the soapie crawl or hang.
the chinese girls – you could have said something. Those china air girls are amazing cause no girl in china looks like them. my guess is they are bred especially for the airline and are kept hidden and trained until they start work. amazing
you get into shit with taxis too much.
the krug was lovely
thanks for some of the numbers
I can’t believe you let the models go.
amazing
awesome trip!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.08.2009
More bad news about Thailand & is PP clamping down?
chris – as I recall it was the glorious mr thaksin who gifted KP all that jazz
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 01.08.2009
cboy – yup. tube8 is gone. i guess there was too much thai porn on it
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 31.07.2009
ssb – I was in bang saen
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 30.07.2009
pmmp – can’t believe u went to pattaya without me
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 30.07.2009
saltybackbeadsofsweat – you trained her well.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 29.07.2009
Gulf News, tourists in Bkk and stuff…
j – i have been saying it for a while – sure anything can happen but the PM has done a masterful job and he is holding on. Word is team yellow loves him. Stability is all we need at this point and the PM seems to be offering it. nice link. thanks.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 28.07.2009
The Peking Duck Gets Its Revenge & Ruins My Chances with Another Bird (Part 2) by Canadian Boy
cboy – peppermint used to rock not sure what happened but 2 of my best 3somes are from there. not the pull 2 chicks but take your own and find a willing participant type
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.07.2009
Gulf News, tourists in Bkk and stuff…
s – daywalker gave me one of those. it is funny. we needed it in monte carlo
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.07.2009
msb – nope. I think I was thee when that video was shot. I checked bin and left. management should deal with that shit
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.07.2009
Professor of mongering by On Nutter
still – they all have it that I know of – any lower suk pharm has about anything one could dream upthe fav is the big chinese looking one as you exit soi 4 and turn left on suk
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.07.2009
The Peking Duck Gets Its Revenge & Ruins My Chances with Another Bird (Part 2) by Canadian Boy
kk – no drama. and this is my point if the fares are good people would come – even with tanks in the streets.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.07.2009
Gulf News, tourists in Bkk and stuff…
rr – I think they tried pulling in tilac but it did not work.It was good to see such a busy week. I also feel like the notion of hi lo season is becoming less so.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.07.2009
The Peking Duck Gets Its Revenge & Ruins My Chances with Another Bird (Part 2) by Canadian Boy
pg – friends from the US are seeing the lowest fares in like 5 years. U have to make a connection but I know people getting sub 700 USD tickets for sept.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.07.2009
p f – yeah. same goes with prices from america with cheap fares even into sept. as we have been saying it would take some time but the airfares are down, hotels are wheeling and dealing. so it could be that for some people – this is enough. let’s hope it helps!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.07.2009
i – if I knew those answers then I would not be surprised by it but just in the last week there was quite the pop all around town. Just happens to be more people in town I guess? Maybe the cheap airfares are working for some. pmmp and I noticed a record number of farang women on cowboy last night. Who knows what gives but we will take it. For sure PG was not kidding about the top of the month – was downright horrid in bkk so I am assuming the same for pattaya
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.07.2009
it seems all of thailand had a pretty packed weekend… this is in stark comparison to early july which was quit dead
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.07.2009
More bad news about Thailand & is PP clamping down?
If you read the bkk post versions of this it is pretty tame. I dont see this as a major crackdown and I think this is about the 100th time they have mentioned cleaning up the taxi shit. how come it is not just prevented in the first place and never allowed to happen. funny how none of this matter until the embassies started to step in.however I am still not convinced that people are not stealing and what u are seeing is the gray area of them trying to get out of it
http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/20758/game-addicts-parents-must-be-responsible
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 23.07.2009
The Peking Duck Gets Its Revenge & Ruins My Chances with Another Bird (Part 2) by Canadian Boy
cb – that is because it is appears that maggie, although really twisted, might be getting more than u
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 22.07.2009
ht – or Isaan mothers.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 22.07.2009
I would have never have taken her given her earlier pain in the ass attitude demonstrated at the bar – plus she has fake tits
I hope to god she was an amazing shag… awake or not.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 22.07.2009
yp – no part 3 that I know of…
CBoy that website is wacked
this is a sick post
http://maggiehaysagainstporn.blogspot.com/2008/12/rape-can-take-different-forms.html
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 22.07.2009
More bad news about Thailand & is PP clamping down?
anyone who even dare uses the term or allow themselves to be labeled – IT experts deserves something.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 22.07.2009
devil – for sure something is going on but I don’t think the NGOs have much to do with it. What is that angle?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
salty – that is my point. it is like they opened a cheap ass thai style bar with thai antics and think the farangs will fall sucker to it
failure predict do I
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
thanks. we just altered it. folks?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
folks on the font thing – this wont be easy so any of u techies u can send screen shots in showing us the ugliness that would be most helpful
info@bigmangobar.com
thanks!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
as – I was not saying king is clean. I am saying that in the eyes of the people involved with them and who is represented by them they are to some people.
maybe not to the ones who get it.
so maybe they are involved but still at this point there is no way one can really see yet the truth in any of it.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
jd – The one under the rajah is shit. thai style with taxi drivers trying to walk u to the door, unclear barfine policies and crap music. I predict failure.
If people who own the hotel can’t make the dicso work who can? Stick a fork in it. they killed it
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
sorry to be a pain folks but would be cool to know what type of windoze and which browser.
welcome to troubleshooting the net…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
i assume all of u complaining about the font are on windows?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
spats – by definition I assume all hotel bars are pricey drinks.
87 has quite the push lately but have not been
yes – they are big
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
f – partying all night until the plane leave or u leave for the taxi to the airport
I think u may have done this before in the past?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
msb – it is a very rare one actually designed by some bar girls in suttisan.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
ghost – new theme and WP upgrade. chill
King Power may not have the best reputation but look at who they are owned by and their connections to certain people. for sure this is a tarnish they dont want but I wonder once again if they have anything to do with it. Seems to be police at the heart of it? It was well known that the Thaksin regime setup King Power in their current position and anything the current government does about it makes them look like they are attacking the red shirts. FIne line to walk indeed.
Either way – something is up and it looks bad for Thailand.
But hey I am sure spending some Baht on hyping a trip to Buriram should make all the difference.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
Polls on thaivisa are like asking bargirls to give you an update on thai politics
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
i – i understand that there are setups but it still seems to me the one they are parading around is not the setup but real. tough call. We did a WP upgrade and a new theme and still have some stuff to fix.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
Seems the Danish Embassy is going to get more aggressive on the airport issue –
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Danish-Embassy-Warns-King-Power-Du-t281997.html#entry2883435
this is exactly the pressure that is needed.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
boozr – can u be a little more specific as to why? thanks
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.07.2009
The Peking Duck Gets Its Revenge & Ruins My Chances with Another Bird (Part 1) by Canadian Boy
db – seems beer is the culprit?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.07.2009
10 Steps to Banging G-Club Coyote Girls for under 1500 Baht by Fender
the man – I like to go because so many people have such a wrong impression of the places, like u, that it ensures I rarely have to put up with any farang competition.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.07.2009
The Peking Duck Gets Its Revenge & Ruins My Chances with Another Bird (Part 1) by Canadian Boy
msb – no it is a criminal one based on your earlier comments…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.07.2009
I bet he is not an english teacher but who knows but I also say that cause of his english but that could be a canadean thing.
I am just worried that with all his mishaps and drunken nights does he ever actually get any.
One of the funniest stories I have heard was a friend of mine – 2nd day in China at restaurant for lunch having an interview. Between the plane food, his first day in china and everything else he suddenly had a case of the shits.
Well – he is was a 3 piece suit and had never used one of the hole in the ground type of joints. SO he stripped down and so as not to risk getting anything dirty. Well he ended up falling in anyway and had to spend an hour trying to rinse out his clothes. Finally he gave up and snuck out. he didnt get the job.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.07.2009
10 Steps to Banging G-Club Coyote Girls for under 1500 Baht by Fender
the man – sure but when u say what u do I dont say it is a waste of yours or my time – meaning different strokes for different folks is the case but why does everyone put down the other thing the are not into?public – we are in the g club. that aint public. they are dead to me anywhere other than the club or the bed
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.07.2009
Soapie crawl, Skymacking, and more scams!
That is my point with bringing up this story to begin with since I don’t get what is really going on. If it is simple theft then all King Power should have to do is report it and turn over evidence. They did and the evidence looks to me like they stole. That is it from King Power and I don’t think the should have to do anything else.Now if the issue is the shadiness of the police then that is a problem but it is not King Power’s problem is it? If this is really theft and the gray area is what happens when one wants to pay to get out of it – well then tough shit.
If this is all a setup then another story entirely but it looked like theft to me.
strange stuff…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.07.2009
10 Steps to Banging G-Club Coyote Girls for under 1500 Baht by Fender
the man – so just cause you dont like the chase we are suppose to not like it as well? since when is drinking, groping and making out with girls a waste of my time. I could list about 100 things that are time wasters and swapping spit with a cute girl is not on the list.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.07.2009
I always hate getting into the G club wars. It always seems that people want thailand to be the same experience for everyone involved. meaning I am suppose to like what the man likes or I am suppose to only be on p4p or I am suppose to only date girls from buriram. no offense folks but this is a huge town with lots to do and g clubs have a place. end of story. I am sure more money went into the remodel of the resort this past year than was spent on the entirety of improvements on all of soi 4.
r- no offense but where are the inaccuracies?
what is funny is fender’s story is pretty much the exact chronological order of what happened. his rules actually work pretty well. I was with him on the night it all started and told him just to get a number and leave it at that. trying to get them home on the first night, has been done before, usually backfires.
I got digits that night from a girl as well. the next few days things were closed due to the booze ban so both girls said they would have time to see us. they did not so I told fender to blow her off. I did the same with my girl. of course you get the come see me at the g club routine but you just deflect.
fender went on and played it like he did and she relented. a fun chase, a gorgeous girl, not much money laid out and I am sure he would say he enjoyed every moment of it. is this a crime? I mean p4p is so easy that it is a tool – it is not the only way.
mine played out different. I actually had gone back to the club and she was busy. so I picked a new girl and had some fun. I was cornered in the bathroom by my former girl and she tried to be upset but hey fair is fair. I told her she blew me off the one time and I came back but now she is busy. She is also did not answer her phone so I was in the clear since I told her I was coming.
Then during the STP she called at 5 in the morning. Trying to make it up to me. I was cunted and told her I was at boss but she was welcome to join. She showed up at boss on her own and then we back to the STP to rejoin the clan. There was really no way to seal the deal but got most of her clothes off and had a nice makeout session on the mango bartop. she paid her own taxi back.
so p4p is always there but this other stuff is fun.
Like I said one can always have both here. is that a crime?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.07.2009
pg – sure. but if you already made millions from the market you probably dont give a fuck about its current state or hassles.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.07.2009
CB – fun stuff. it would be how I imagine it if my bros were here, drinking and mongering – but that is impossible.
these powerful people stories are not that nutty in places like thailand when money is the calling shot here. we met a similar guy in pattaya involved in real estate and everywhere we went was like the parting of the red sea.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.07.2009
neither – I am wondering if one could call this the bottom. The depth of the low season is upon us and maybe the world demand stokes the thai export market. however it could only be a bottom if nothing worse happens and I don’t think anyone could predict that. All it would take is Thaksin stirring the pot, the current government falling apart, or the “big” event and for sure we will set a new bottom. None of this also includes any self inflicted stupid shit like airport closures, some new dumb law or more tragedies.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.07.2009
msb – not sure how u see it that way at all. maybe from a pure SET angle it could be a buyers market but this is all the calm before the storm in my opinion. the export market is not getting better, the baht is still too strong, tourism has yet to even show any signs of a rebound, the government debt will start piling on and the article clearly points to a ton of obscurity in the future.
Maybe this is the bottom though but I still feel like the one big event will set everything back quite a bit unless there is some orderly plan that has yet to be announced.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.07.2009
bmm – nothing wrong at all. I do not think I said I had a problem with people commenting and saying what they feel. obviously you can see from the comments it is pretty divided as to how people feel about it or react to it.u are free to say what u will – that is always the case here.
I don’t think it is ignorance – just differences of opinions and the blog is run by a group of people who are free to work as a group to decide what goes on here, what stays and what gets edited. No conspiracy here. SO yes – sometimes things are deleted or changed after that fact since after all – as seen by this post – we are only human.
As always thanks for speaking your mind.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 14.07.2009
I am not sure I get the problem here – it seems no one can really write about what they see – funny, derogatory or irreverent without creating some sort of a stir.
So Chris Rock can call people names and make fun of black people but white people can’t – this is humor right?
A muslim friend of mine can do stand up and take the piss out of muslims but I can’t.
The world is always full of these traps and I think CB called it as he saw it and it was a slice of Pattaya life – good, bad and ugly.
I don’t think he hurt anyone nor was he putting people down – he was just taking notes. It’s life – warts and all. Parts of it funny and parts of it kind of sad for what it is but all sounds pretty real to me.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 14.07.2009
u are being way too harsh on peppermint or it has really gone downhill
I am just stunned u did not think to do a tequila elbow/nipple shot. that would have been a story.
don’t worry JD – Happy is mentioned in part 2
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 13.07.2009
6am in the morning sun with a gay aborigine by Rope-a-dope…
cboy – I am sure u know by now u just taxi to anywhere u want to go and join the crowds of thais by buying your entry ticket and checking the place out. no tour help needed but I am not sure of the feeding times. Same goes for the tiger zoo. Their feeding time is when small children show up.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.07.2009
The BARANG Drinks 2 Much – Part Two of Two
I will keep thinking that the only reason to go to PP is to get happy pizza.MSB – stadium is cool but can be a tad creepy at times…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.07.2009
Big Mango Bar One Year Anniversary Party
i- i bet free beer would work better
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.07.2009
pg – what shirt?
dc – thanks. wish u were here!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.07.2009
j – she dumped u? bummer. I know the feeling.i – no. she flunks. no real Uni Girl goes anywhere near the beergarden.
bb – it is important to know the difference since for me shagging a non working girl, no matter how gray, is just well – better. This is not to say that P4P is not great – it is.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.07.2009
mike – making me horny too. if only they posed together. damn
j – mums the word
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
fender – not naked but still – so hot. the nymph got naked though
poodle – I did not even use the w word like u to describe what is obviously a girl in the gray. nothing wrong with the gray area and I am not looking down on them or labeling them but she still turned tricks to go to school. so she is a working girl with a solid education and what looks like is a great future. cool. no drama. like a said defining the gray is tough. some guys thing go-go girls are lower class than massage girls but who gets banged more? normally massage girls.
but she does not pass the Uni Girl litmus test.
fyi – the thaksin loans for school were mostly for the rich or middle class to help pay for masters and stuff. not many people who actually needed them got them
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
Elephants, 30k a month & more on the Scams!
well. we are at 1274 posts and 31274 comments.but according to others we are on the way out.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
company man – underneath me
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
Elephants, 30k a month & more on the Scams!
gs – u know this stuff more than me. I know of one tech startup that I was told was offering 15% on local salaries. Another one I know of fits the model you describe of a regional HQ but the company makes money globally. That’s all I know. Fun topics!for me – I would love to have these tax problem.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
mr – I dont think it puts her out unless she is flogging the mutton or is for sale. promo girls still fit in my opinion.rick – that is what some people are saying
gs – i know some companies that will not hire graduates from ram. just that simple.
naki – sure. 1000 baht a tag. u paying?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
Elephants, 30k a month & more on the Scams!
j – there are a few companies I know of who as part of their BOI deal offer 10-15% capped tax rates on their employee salaries. so it is not just the company taxeslots of things can be structured under BOI
like I said your BOI team did not take the thais out enough
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
naki – sure. she falls into the gray area. a nice find but she is a uni girl – not a Uni Girl. Also I dont think people aspire to hire lawyers from ram. maybe from chula or thammasat.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
msb – that is a little harsh but u must be including yourself to? I can’t agree with this though since although my record is not good I have pulled it. Of course would never talk about my other world but like the zipcode rules in america the ked rules apply here.
8 ball – there are ram girls who may count but the probably is the vast majority of girls who wish they were Uni Girls but flunk the litmus test will 90% time claim to go to Ram.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
j – u r correct. p4p is a tool. it can be used as such. like I said it is being able to have it all hat makes it cool.
yes – a go-go girl, although who may go to uni – is not a Uni Girl.
yp – usually people say that about ram cause anyone can attend and most hardly go to class and still graduate.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
sl – yes. off topic but will let it slide.
why do guys have ugly gfs and on top of that send them money?
back on topic. she is NOT a uni girl
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
gs – I did not want to be rude but you could make a whole list of the schools that dont count – not just ram.
yes – the grey area is complicated. get writing.
bkk – this is your uni girl? sounds great!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
spats – how many times do we need to discuss this? we dont even know the cougars age and I have stated that if she is not older than me then she is not a cougar. okay? punk.
ld – has to be one of the best lines yet.
“if they didn’t have pussies, you’d throw rocks at them.”
nice.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
nr – please
http://www.bigmangobar.com/main/2009/01/18/getting-make-overed-part-1/
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
Elephants, 30k a month & more on the Scams!
j – well I wont cry for u given the salary but I will say that the team that negotiated your BOI deal did not take the Thai powers that be to the soapies enough since most BOI companies get nominal tax rates for their employees – usually capped at 10-15% to allow them to hire expats and such. Wouldn’t that be nice?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
July 4th Party Pics and No-Booze Days
j – there is but it is silly since none of it is based on law and the affect on business is huge.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.07.2009
Elephants, 30k a month & more on the Scams!
eddit – cool but I think what we are referring to is when guys are banging without paying – not about how much one is paying.j – why the big taxes? sounds like u are doing pretty well IMHO either way. how much of your budget is spent on the other chicks in your life?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 08.07.2009
July 4th Party Pics and No-Booze Days
j – as we have said before there is no law that actually says you cannot serve. It is the peer pressure of certain areas and the religious tendencies of some of the big business owners, government officials and police chiefs that affect where serving is and is not.For example all of soi is not serving but for a few places. Call the police. nothing will happen just like soi 8 is serving but all around it things are closed.
none of it makes sense and as a business owner is seriously frustrating since when rules are not applied evenly it makes the basic premise of doing business very tough.
usually if the police did want to a bust a place no one will go to jail but they will fine you. how much of that fine ends up in the tax coffers versus there pockets. one would have to assume that not much of it enters the general fund.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 08.07.2009
Elephants, 30k a month & more on the Scams!
m – must be the one although my understanding is the powers that be are so powerful the economist is self censoring and so are the distributors. No one is asking they do it. hardcore.f – my age.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 08.07.2009
bkk – that was my thinking…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 08.07.2009
gs – sure it all depends on what u are taking home and from where. No doubt about it. I think there are some quality girls to be had without the amazing digs but taste varies widely as to what quality is.
If you are pulling real hi-so or the girl from channel 3 you need a real place. Or you are lucky that she does not mind taking you to hers.
No indians. Thats funny. I am in a proper building but it is full of indians, thai movie stars and a few mia nois of rich folks. Does this building not count?
Funny u touch on the uni girl thing – have a post brewing about that pet peeve of mine.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 08.07.2009
The BARANG Drinks 2 Much – Part One of Two
On the viets. I never seem to see any hot ones on the circuit – not even when I lived in HK but when I got to Vietnam it is not the girls in the bars that do it for me either but the super hot ones you see walking around or riding a bicycle. That works but I still say the average is still a tad lower than Thailand.The Athlete. I fear his return.
Hallowed Black Goldfish – RIP
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 08.07.2009
bbb – dying here.
the athlete’s behavior must be related to the goldfish incident…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 08.07.2009
Elephants, 30k a month & more on the Scams!
rumor is nana is open tonight but not servingpretty sure cowboy is closed
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.07.2009
prof – u arrest the mahout and what happens to the elephant? somehow systematically dealing with the issue of why this happens and to prevent it would be the only way. but this is thailand – the social ills of poverty and farmers/mahouts being left behind is a big problem. elephants roaming the streets is just a symptom IMHO and one the police are un equipped to deal with.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.07.2009
July 4th Party Pics and No-Booze Days
indu – easy there. I choose to shave mine for ease of use and the thai ladies seems to like the mr clean look more than any SE asian race I know. so for me – I dont care much what the dudes think anyway. it is all about the chicks
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.07.2009
ab – I will take my chances on the real deal here.he he
nice pice though and keep em coming.
maybe next year u will make it back to bkk…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.07.2009
Elephants, 30k a month & more on the Scams!
c – only helps if they are open under me buddyjj – yes. it sucks for them. I dont see the police being the facilitators of all things that ail bkk. the reality is this is a social issue. thailand has elephants and it is the poor who own them. there is a special force for this and I have talked to them once before. there is no money for them. this video highlights that team yellow is financing the buying of elephants to take them off the streets. this seems smarter than punishing the handlers unless there are perpetually doing this to make money. could be that some are. again I feel bad for the elephants.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.07.2009
Soapie crawl, Skymacking, and more scams!
jj – dont want to sensationalize here but mafia and police are not the same. I dont think someone just demanded 30k and got it. there has to be more. maybe a music license or some other small infraction ? being in the biz I put up with all this as well but there is always something that allows them to get something – fair or not.I assume I know which place u are talking about since only one mex joint I know in bkk owned by a singaporean. the 30k price sounds like the music scam that has been going around.
anyway. not saying it did not happen but want to make it clear how this stuff does happen.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.07.2009
ab – she was a hi so girl. from soi 33.bummer you couldn’t work the famous roach into the pic.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.07.2009
July 4th Party Pics and No-Booze Days
db – it is surreali – this you?
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.php?IDNEWS=0000009670&usg=AFQjCNHfuV3MXpUK7vKsCLhCdt9K6fyjAQ
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.07.2009
Soapie crawl, Skymacking, and more scams!
f – at least I dig deeper than your mate who clearly did not survive the bangkok virgin drink that pmmp whipped upo – yup. u dont see or hear anything on it. and as I stated it wont change a thing about nightlife, regulations or the police. that is not to say that there is not some criminal charges still being filed or that some people are in court over it but you never see anything in the english papers.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.07.2009
July 4th Party Pics and No-Booze Days
soapies and g clubs closed tomorrow. everyone is non committal about wed.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.07.2009
Soapie crawl, Skymacking, and more scams!
l – did not really want to bring that up but that is correct. I was just happy to see the gang working again and doing a fine job of it.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.07.2009
jj – agreed. if they stole then they are in trouble but could this be then since it is real they are just trying to buy their way out? buying your way out will always be shady indeed.
sg – india is a different beast entirely.
I need to try tarawadee but I always hear good things about it. how is the pricing?
rico – I think the thing I am trying to understand is if King Power is involved. When u look at the videos it looks to me like people are stealing. I cant speak to your case but I would be afraid to argue with an immigration officer in any country – even my own whether I was right or wrong. Sucks to feel that way but immigration scares me.
that aside all over asia people who get in trouble try to the normal ways to get out and then try the payout. Seems that is the case here unless there are setups going on just to lead to the payout. I assume you did not pay to get out since you had some help?
I had a horrifying 2 days in Tengah once when I stayed at a friend’s house and somehow was accused of being in the house with unmarried muslim females. I was not since the house I was staying at only had the parents of a friend – all the children were moved out so I could stay there. Seems some local cop was able to make an issue out of this. So I spent 2 days at a police station, not in a cell and they let me go home at night, arguing about this and the validity of my passport. Of course they would not call the US embassy to verify anything. I stood my ground, since I did nothing wrong, but eventually the family was forced to pay because they were being threatened by the people who set me up. I paid them back but was upset the locals won the round. Doing some research later I was told this little province is known for getting money out foreigners for stupid shit since there is no real tourism in the area. Not a region I will be going back to.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.07.2009
b – the beauty of the blog is that guys like u will read the posts and contradict them if I am off. great stuff. Curious though that if that was real then why the shady payoffs or is it simply they are willing to get into a shady payoff deal cause they are guilty? strange stuff.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 05.07.2009
Scams Up and Tourists Down – but the Chicks remain constant
jj – it shows u how they thinkpersonally I get the dual pricing to some extent. they do it all over india and indomesia but what I don’t like is how big the gap and how if I flash my work permit they still wont give me the thai price. that is BS
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 02.07.2009
jb – we close at 2. sometimes 1 – really nothing to do with the party.
louk – agreed but the bottles are not 5 k. they are usually 500 baht or more over standard bottle prices.
jj – agreed
db – okay
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 01.07.2009
cman – that is tough to answer. look through reviews on wickedtraveler.com for reviews on some. I think it depends on what u r looking for, how much thai you speak and how much money you want to drop.
they are all roughly the same and they are all geared towards membership so keep in mind u wont get a good deal rolling in for one night but if you are careful about what you order and ladydrinks then it wont be out of hand.
I think caribbean is not a bad starter g club. it is big, plenty of girls, good service and not known for bill padding. open a bottle – dont order drinks. be clear to the mamasan that you are checking it out for purposes of buying a membership. Make sure u are not charged for anything extra like mamasan fees but know u will get charged for ice, mixers and so on. Ladydrinks and ladytime wil be charged full fare.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 01.07.2009
bkk – yeah. totally. or maybe they did report it but only some of it. whole thing is funky.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 01.07.2009
nr – think u mean 2.6k or 2600
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 01.07.2009
salty. thanks for the post but wanted to pick a few bones.
hi so – soi 33? not sure what u mean. hi so is usually referred to has hi so thais. no hi so thais go to 33 last time I checked. if you mean overpriced – well 33 is full of those kind of bars but girl wise – these are the same girls that exist in soi 4 but are told to where dresses, speak nice and service better. it works but I hardly find them worth the bar fines or st/lt rates they quote. I only bring this up cause people should know there is no difference. if there was then 33 would not be doing as bad as it is.
also – what do you mean by 5k baht girl?
what kind of sms’s is this girl and family sending – would be funny to see those.
back with the ex – u r kidding right?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 30.06.2009
d – to some extent the south of thailand is white noise. no one really cares about it except for the people in the south or the families of those getting killed. apart from when thaksin killed a container full of people – news of the south never creates any google spikes from what I can tell. Of course BBC, the purveyor of all things bad, loves to make sure everyone is aware of this type of stuff but for the rest of the world and those here in Thailand – this is a non event. so I personally don’t count this as a bump in the current stability.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.06.2009
oah – let’s be clear on what I said. I did not say the government was doing the right thing but they have stayed in power and at least they are functioning. for the 3 thaksin puppet governments we went through nothing got done. I also did not say shit was not coming – it is but for now things are stable. months of stability – no matter what is coming will be good. I am clearly aware of how bad things can get but at the same time perception is reality. when nothing bad is happening then it looks like things are okay. right now all the bad in the world is more interesting than thailand. a few months ago this was not the case.
man – true. but he overplayed his hand and he went down a few notches. he may come back but it wont be for a while. how much do u even hear him talked about right now? hardly ever compared to a few months ago.
k – no. and that is a huge problem. starting companies here, getting work permits and so on is a huge pain in the ass and a big problem for thailand. I have always said this and they need to lighten up and even allow people to simply pay for a work permit. how many tech workers can work from anywhere and would work here if they did not have to put up with visa run silliness. they should even just make a remote worker visa.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.06.2009
man -thanks for the assist. did not want to correct YP’s thai yet again.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.06.2009
bb – a is not winning vote wise but I get u on the www
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.06.2009
r – yeah. I am sure people would have modified that one too.
mm – I guess the date is kind of fun since it is a big deal given our history. we always put the URL on things cause the net is a big piece of our success.
q – sure. as soon as it goes to committee I knew it would be somewhat hopeless to get consensus but I think it is helping to get some basic feedback.
d – the shock value of it was kind of the point or the i have no idea what they are talking about. both good responses.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.06.2009
mr c -anything over 250cc is money. there are lots of used bikes though and some guys like kawasaki are locally assembling some bikes that alleviate some of the taxes. they have some 250 and 600.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.06.2009
mryth – thanks for the feedbackmaneyes – this is not the bashing site so not sure what u think but thanks for comments. not liking any of them means u are not into it. cool. are other shirts sold quite nicely thanks.
cb – yeah white is better to show off the bkk sweat rings.
rr – thanks
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.06.2009
jonny – one would assume that. well never mind.
we are gauging the demand and that will set the pricing to some extent. expect around 300 baht or so. quality t – good color.
bb – if u happen to walk down soi 4, 23 or 7/1 or have ventured into q bar then people already assume u do. this is just the icing on the cake.
hence the voting so we can decide on the way forward
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 24.06.2009
yeah fender – bring trago then – that should impress the c girls
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 24.06.2009
mega – gripper. priceless.
un – my parents are way north of sacto so that whole area u talk off I have not been to in years. Thank god.
jd – lumpini. get in there. I still cant bring myself to pull the trigger.
rb – they are all full nude but none of them have booze. however there are like 3 less than there used to be. the recession is pummeling them.
eddit – there are tons of awesome italian places in bkk. tons.
fender – patron it is. or a slice of caesars. u choose.
irish – ronnys? are u kidding. avoid it like the plague.
http://blog.durianseed.com/?p=15
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 24.06.2009
d – yes. I have test rode the d tracker. the bigger ones they have are street bikes and not my thing. I want my gs1200 back.
j – pick up artist.
guess I need a field trip
rr – once again. not saying it is bad and my guess is that if u did not have the long breaks in thailand u would not like it as much. cali is great. just wait until the air resources board requires nitrogen filled tires from 2010 on.
un – they used to be great but 3 of them have closed and most have moves to city limits. none of them are as good as they used to be. there were times it seemed u could find half the cheer leading squad working on amateur nights.
nice book. need to read up on PMT
jj – sure. it is always about money and if u are loaded even monaco seems like happy hunting grounds. being a mere mortal though I will settle for asia.
mega – seattle used to have some of the BYPB strip clubs was fun. yeah – seeing the hotties nude used to drive me mad. then I had a trip to KL and hooked up in the beach club. after that I was off strip clubs except for a few in atlanta with booze, hotties and 10 nude lap dances.
auk – are they in the pubs?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 23.06.2009
i – I did not say us was terrible. I was born and raised in cali. I love it but the taxes, the biz climate, and the big brother thing is getting a bit much.
sure u can score there but it is not the same as asia – not even close.
anyway. good points and I am not bashing. just looking at both sides.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 23.06.2009
folksreservations are through email. thought we made that clear.
there will NOT be customizations sorry…
will look into some without the front saying and let people know.
thanks!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.06.2009
jd – I thought u had but either way. it sounds good doesnt it?
BTW – does your email work?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.06.2009
to all – email will be the booking engine for tshirts – not the comments. thanks!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.06.2009
db – nice suggestion. i don’t mind it…
thanks
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.06.2009
sure – as long as black is the new pink
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.06.2009
Banglamung’s Pattaya Circus #3: When Pigs Attack
maz – if I could pay pattaya rents I will import pattaya pricing.insomnia is the shit – no doubt about it
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.06.2009
I am loving this post:http://horiwood.com/2009/06/07/david-carradines-death-photo/
this guy wants new laws in thailand to prevent photos like this. please.
some good comments though:
This doesn’t have anything to do with ‘sex tourism’ in Bangkok and in Thailand. He didn’t come here to tie himself up, he could have done that anywhere…
Also, the fact the Thais published the photo also doesn’t have anything to do with insensitivity to death or anything like that. Because of their buddhist culture and beliefs on death and dying, they’re nonchalant about the afterlife, because it’s cyclical. For them, dying and death is no big deal, and contributes to their wonderfully laid-back and peaceful attitude. If you’ve ever spent time here and got to know the people, this whole situation wouldn’t be suprising in the least.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 14.06.2009
Banglamung’s Pattaya Circus #3: When Pigs Attack
bang – nice writeup. thanksseems a good time to make a pattaya run. YP?
yeah – rough when the bad press hits and the incorrect press at the same time
what is the whole coyote closure ordeal? I was not aware of it
IMHO – pattaya could use some proper consolidation and a return to quality when it comes to the go go scene.
looks like a cheap place to get boozed up
here’s to 2010
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 14.06.2009
Fox news – yes. makes sense for them to print the first mister celebrity autopsy boy says. this is like hiring a medical expert for a trial – they say whatever you pay them to. Go figure.I don’t get how an autopsy is going to prove much unless there is actually proof that he was killed. If he died of a heart attack or something then he died of a heart attack. how will that show murder? I mean if this is a murder – they did a damn good job of making it look like a freak happened to die while jerking himself off.
another article here discussing how one can tie themselves up so being tied up cannot prove murder.
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/08/big-clue-in-carradines-tied-hands/#
at the end of the day this will all be about insurance and killing himself makes it hard for for wife and movie people to collect right? accidental death probably does not.
given this is thailand I am sure some percentage of the insurance money can be diverted to the right thai authority who simply has to use the accidental death stamp on the paperwork. Cant imagine that this stamp has not been used before.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 12.06.2009
oah – that is y u have to rule out the ladyboy theory – they would not fit in the room. must have been a few isaan spinners.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.06.2009
kosh – glad u got the pleasure. BTW – those are billabong shorts. orig. and that was MOS shirt. Orig. thanks for noticing.also – this is not what I was wearing either of the times I was stopped. Both times I was actually wearing pants, button up shirt and decent shoes.
so not sure what u are driving at.
also when is it suspicious to have a laptop bag? which I did not have with me at my stops either.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.06.2009
wcd – it does actually. I mean really – this is better than anything one could make upmike – once again why am I being judged on what thailand would do. I repeat – look at santika. photos the next day. due hanging from bridge – photos the next day. so – given he is a movie star, was in bkk and went out they way he did – it would not be hard to deduce that photos would exist. Do I agree with it – no. How does on compare this to the civilized world given all that goes on. And when was the last time civilized people were into the shit that DC was?
milo – cool. I did not know what to call it. rest of your stuff is spot on.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.06.2009
pb – the katoey buzz was on day one but nothing seems to be concrete
oah – that is not what I said. what i said is, whether or not it is good or bad, they have done this before.
santika
dude hanging from the bridgeeveryone knew they would do it with this – the family are still idiots for going about it the way they did.
I think u are trying to read something into what I said that is not there.
gs – is not that the autopsy zipper from when they open him up. this looks like after they zipped him back up.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.06.2009
companyman – bad timing with our anniversary party but I love racing.boy – they dont give a shit. that is the problem. none of the government or law enforcement ever has to deal with trie cause and effect for their actions. that is the sad part.
k – it is not jaded it is just telling things like they are just like maz is doing with england. hate to burst bubbles but we all have to admit that going on holiday anywhere is different than everyday life – no matter where the destination is. I cant really subscribe to the notion of sunshine only blogging – just isnt real.
msb – I think it is just a time and place thing. one of my points is these guys are pathetic about real profiling – which is dumb because to waste all that time and hardly ever catch anyone is pointless. they tend to pick people they think look the part but in reality are innocent while under their noises people are moving by them with huge stashes. cracks me up
i – not sure what u mean. u want a panic over it? who the fuck knows if they have it or where they caught it. u want the place shut down over it? that would make things worse right? seems they did the pragmatic thing for now.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.06.2009
Actor David Carradine found dead in Bangkok!
pretty good explanation of how the dirty deed works here:http://jenapincott.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/when-masturbation-is-deadly/
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.06.2009
fanta – cool. it was a great article.maz – I hear but unfortunately living here day to day means that we put up with shit too – especially if try to do business here. I do my best but real life always prevails.
speed cameras and tix in europe suck. totally agreed!
bkk22 – details please.
companyman – I can get your story up tomorrow – any edits? not sure if people are going to tear u up or not.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.06.2009
bbb – BMA has many women police and I saw some at the lumpini station. Also there are many women military police. but of the standard irritating BIB type – I have not seen any.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.06.2009
stat boy
Well – it is enough that groups of people are either closing airports or rioting in the streets. Dont see much of that in America – at least not yet.
Many scholars find that the Gini thing is missing a lot of the real poor here, the underground economy and that the government gives them many of the numbers. So of course they are trying to make it look better.
Whether or not any of this is true – a small group of very rich people have been controlling this country for years and a much LARGER group of not rich people are starting to grumble.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.06.2009
bubba – I may stop showering to see if that scares them again
f – possibly but not sure what that has to do with here where the GAP between the 2 is what is causing the strife.
but you are correct the fucking bush years screwed the pooch. The Man – correct?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.06.2009
muu – sure. They are looking for stuff.
Just like how the idiots on lower suk framing farangs have not made the streets cleaner or stopped anyone from smoking, do u really think stopping random people like u or me is going to help?
Let’s say u did have a tab on u. You will pay whatever it takes to not get into trouble. As u should. He will take your money and the tab so he can sell it to some guy in the force who is the real dealer. Yes cops deal.
So point is – this random harassment is not stopping the trade and damaging tourism. All they have to do is go to the known clubs to bust the people taking it in plain view, selling it in the bathrooms and then find the guy who is in the club, many times an employee, who has the extra kit when the dude in the bathroom runs out.
That makes a lot more sense to me. Why they don’t do it? Well some guy is making money from the club for ensuring the club is not busted.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.06.2009
One of the things I forgot to stick in this post is regarding the stupid ATM shit going on in Thailand.
Just after I wrote about K Bank not charging they started charging. I hope not to jinx this next tidbit of info but the Singaporean Bannk UOB is still not charging.
Given that I plan on opening an account with them so I can stick to the effing Thai banks
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.06.2009
kf – I think it is a factor but not the only one. The red shirt shit did not help either but you are correct in that they are not doing what they should to nurture the trade. Not at allthose are some great shots.
those 2 guys are the worst. saw them chat the other day with a thai who had just put his cig out on the ground. evil they are.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.06.2009
b – cool
i hear u
weird thing is I dont want the states back or thing from there – I want new things here.
obviously I create my own world here so mostly it is my fault for not trying order. old habits die hard. we all know that.
thanks for the kind words.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.06.2009
b – as stated. I was not even drunk.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.06.2009
lexic – correct but I think tourism here is hurting not just due to recession but also due to the local shit that is all self inflicted.
parties will be a staple – no doubt
multi floor action – when thing look safe enough to invest again. that seems to be off in the horizon me thinks.
thanks for the comment.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.06.2009
Disjointed observations about the “lounge girls” (LGs) scene by Voyager
v – good post and pretty much tells it like it is.I have been with a few of these thai guys – one quite rich, married and had slept with most of the hotties in a particular bar. They treat these girls nice but of course don’t date them. It is always the foreign guys who do and frankly it makes sense. These girls are a huge step up from a go-go girl, understand that putting out is important and can show a guy a good time. Most often these guys could not land a normal girl who is as hot or puts out as much so the compromise works IMHO.
Having been around a few of these girls in my time what I think is funny is how they think they are as good as normal girls – not thinking they are anything different. Sure maybe they are a step up from go-go girls or MP girls but they are still in some ways flogging the mutton.
Much to discuss here…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.06.2009
mike – i like the inline video stuff and interfaceI never even searched for the bar
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 05.06.2009
Actor David Carradine found dead in Bangkok!
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2009/06/04/headlines/headlines_30104421.phpI was close – it was on wireless road!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.06.2009
maybe he offed himself?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090604/ap_en_ot/as_thailand_david_carradine_3
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.06.2009
pp – I am not sure. I identified that there was no one around who might want to kick my ass. Most of the normal thais hanging around do not like these folks either.as – same kids but I saw no handler. How can u walk down the middle of the road in bkk without getting run overed? Also – I dont think this is a silom thing or a saladaeng thing it is a proper recession and the people are feeling it and getting nastier. Rather sad really.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.06.2009
bbb – mexicans in bkk drinks fermented soy milk with mehkong floater
also – I am not condoning violence nor did I rough him up – just grabbed him where it got his attention so it would all be over quick and before anyone noticed. I would have loved for the police to handle all this but the chance of getting a police man over or getting him to a police man would be rarely rare. money back and I am over it but watch these kids.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.06.2009
bbb – it had been a long day but they are thieves and deserved to be treated as such. It was pretty obvious he knew he was wrong and hence I left it at that but if the girl had not kept hitting me I would have dragged him all the way back to where my police connection was. That was the plan anyway.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.06.2009
jd – I headed back pretty quick so they did not have much time but I would have assumed they would have passed the money of by now. They are not smart but they are good pick pocketers. I worried most about being seen by their handler or someone who might defend them but we were behind the BTS station and it was late. I took a chance but I was so pissed off so I was not leaving without my money.
yp – I think it is because u had no money to give them.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.06.2009
lmw – thanks for the post. Getting laid at any of the g type clubs is not so cut and dry so I would not worry. I have not been to exotica but here there are some hotties. any more info on the way it works there? so upstairs the hostesses are direct p4p – what was the cost for any of this? we need details!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.06.2009
auk – this was not intentional since I dont control the f1 schedulepunk
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 02.06.2009
sweatdroplets – is there some vodka or redbull floating around thailand that I am unaware of?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 02.06.2009
ghost – yeah it is a pain. okay on the write upjdh – yeah it does suck to get treated the worst on return to your home country
sb – no tongue. sorry.
bkk – okay.
gs – I also did not see any signs for an american breakfast either. big letdown.
dw – those poor village people
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 01.06.2009
jd – thanks. good to be back.
atm – I was going to write some stuff up but not sure the folks here wanted to hear it. I may layer some of it in – it was a great trip! thanks for asking about it.
maybe we will have an f1 party next weekend as well!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 31.05.2009
tsm – no but it was coming close and no – I am not into it but thanks. I can’t imagine it refers to wifi since there are some open networks in some of the pubs we went to.
dw – props
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 31.05.2009
‘A soi less well travelled’ by DocBond
dbond – great post. love how u capture all the little things that go on that for those who live here – we tend to forget.I guess the soapie or massage experience is always a hit or miss.
thanks for the post and for the party idea!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 30.05.2009
Getting Good Oral Service, Shopping For Dresses, And Avoiding Tuberculosis In Bangkok by gavinmac
gmac – just catching up here. awesome stuff.thanks for sending it here…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.05.2009
Thailand Massages – The Newbie’s Guide to a Happy Beginning & Ending by I Phukit
wcd – now I know who the oily looking dude was. all makes sense now. thanks!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 18.05.2009
2 new reasons to love being in Thailand!
i – thanks for coming. it was a good time. I guess we leave it up to the bloggers to decide if they want to be exposed or not. many do not so we don’t make a big to do of it.since u have a bald head we can just write your handle on the back of your head next time with a magic marker. that should do it
yp screams his persona just be showing up so it should not be a problem!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.05.2009
msb – they have like booths that work fine for eating
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.05.2009
smll brad – please. there are few sites that amount to the traffic of our bar sites – trust me. I am a stats whore. bbk site is not even in the top 10 of our referrers on most days – traffic from our other properties is.
he is also paying to get his traffic – something we have never done. so not sure where u dreamed up your funny ass conspiracy theory but nothing to see here – move along.
I respect bbk stance on the no censor thing but it is impossible to think one can do it and still respect the laws of thailand and live here.
the site is not blocked for me at all.
pru – thanks for the comments. it was a fun party!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.05.2009
Memoirs of a Thai Hooker – Golden Shower Report
kv – interesting point and I would type more on it but I am tied up right now getting whipped while I watch this ladyboy bang a young chick I picked up at the nana parking lot last night. I am also watching an episode of cops while I jerk off to some youtube midget porn. I am not sure your stance makes a lot of sense but I guess it is possible.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.05.2009
Quagmire scours the net – Part 1
goodwife – that is funny
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.05.2009
jd – I am guessing this is the norm for his part of the world
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 14.05.2009
Night train, G Club silly money, why Cowboy closed & patpong silliness…
kv – agree on the g club partyon the bargirl stuff – p4p is a tool that has a time and a place IMHO
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 13.05.2009
Memoirs of a Thai Hooker – Golden Shower Report
k – it is real. This was explained in the first thread.Why would we just make some drivel up and pretend cause if we did then that would be crap – no pun intended.
from the first post – and I apologize if people did not get this was real email – that is the reason this is funny.
editor’s note: Truth is always stranger than fiction. From time to time we get sent in reader’s submissions. Some we print and some we don’t – but this one, well – we gotta post it.
This is a real email sent in to a Thai Escort in Thailand. Priceless.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 13.05.2009
ww – I hear u but seems when each have our limits so to speak – for instance your matter of fact way u describe waiting for your girl as she goes into service another guy is the appalling line in my book – not this email. Meaning I could never handle that even if I knew it was going on. amazing the difference.
I also find that the men in the p4p scene like to see the sugar coated version at times of what goes on – especially the POV written by these girls with their blogs about being a hooker. We went shopping, then the beach and we had this holiday and while on the beach I sms’d with jimmy in england. Jimmy would be coming to bangkok soon and missed me.
please. the emails above are probably more consistent with some of what goes on in p4p. I have seen a few from girls and although some of the normal stuff is in their u see some sick shit. It is not that uncommon. Not sure why people have a hard time with it. of course it could just be in bad taste and that I am comfortable with but when people don’t grasp the censorship thing I think they don’t get thailand at times.
all good and in the end I enjoy the responses – good or bad since that is the point of it all.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 13.05.2009
ww – just in case people are not getting it. this is not a post – these are actual emails sent by guys to a thai escort. hence I find them hilarious.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 13.05.2009
sweatybackboy – see. without this post I would not have seen a comment like this. kills me…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 13.05.2009
b – true. i sometime scour cl to see the wacky stuff. what is funny is how people react to this.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 13.05.2009
protonic – nice one. crap post.
jd – I was in the lift the other day with the male lead from mia leuang but I still can’t figure out who the girl was. aum is super hot.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 13.05.2009
It cracks me up that people still can’t figure out what we would censor and what we would not. Come one folks – look at Thailand. You got hookers working the streets and no one has a problem with that but yet there are some very obvious things you see do not see and cannot do. Really no different than the online world.
As I stated in the first post like this – truth is stranger than fiction.
These are real emails folks.
Eddie – no one is allowed to post up here so this is not an accident or something.
When I read the few blogs around the net that are supposedly written by Thai working girls – I laugh since they are rarely indicative of what I think they are going through and seem to be mostly made up.
This stuff is not made up and maybe it is a little over the top but it is quite real.
Not sure why people struggle with the reality stuff?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 13.05.2009
Songkran Escape Part 4: Sihanoukville – The Bar Crawl
hmmmmI sense u are let down?
Seem like a nice place to have fun but not to monger or it s just cleaned out at NYs?
I have heard some serious takes of partying there – like beach raves that used to take place in thailand back in the days. any sense of that?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.05.2009
Illusions, The Adventures Of A Disappointed Whorist by Eddie T
moistbackdroplets comments was awesomeit flew by and I forgot to ask where he gets the clapper in bkk and every time u use mexican food metaphors it puts be off tacos for at least a day or too
fucking funny
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.05.2009
The lord group chain of soapies does not
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 11.05.2009
Sniping in Bangkok part 1 by Canadian Boy
very slick technique
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.05.2009
comment count by writing your comments one line at a time
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.05.2009
sharkman – I get it. u r cboy trying to inflate your
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.05.2009
mr c – dont really buy that one. the reality is most BG have not been to high school so their command of their own language is pretty weak.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.05.2009
Look at a dictionary and u will get the same answer
thai2english is a machine doing the translation – jsut like google it uses SMT – statistical machine translation and like google it is off most of the time. For real context, meaning and grammar the link I used is much more reliable and the word is explained how I remember my teaching instructing the use of na – which is like a stating of being. so in my mind na beua cannot mean bored.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.05.2009
the way I have heard it is beau can be bored or boring but naa beuua is boring or tedious but not bored
this is the site I look to and one my teacher also liked:
http://www.thai-language.com/id/132330
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.05.2009
Night train, G Club silly money, why Cowboy closed & patpong silliness…
jim – thanks for reading the fine print
sure 2k in cowboy might by u a quick and easy lay but when one wants a real party, some discretion, the absence of knobheads and something a little different – then something like the bank sounds fun.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.05.2009
The Land of the Morning Calm Part 3 by DebtStar
zp – macau sucks in my opinion for girls – I guess better options than hk or cheaper but nothing compared to thailand and no korean guys last time I was there but I could see that a korean guy likes to go there but mostly for the gambling – not the women.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.05.2009
seven – so very true.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.05.2009
pong – yes. I heard the commotion and chatted with the police. they said it was over something else but I had yet to get the whole story. I wonder if MBK is next and they will fire shots in the air to keep the tourists from buying all the fake stuff.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.05.2009
eddie – with all respects do u know what it costs to buy imported alcohol? yeah – I didn’t think so.on the tequila boys – it does not matter what the alcohol is. an import is an import and duties are based on the cost plus whatever the dude bringing it in adds to it. yes – if anyone of u want to crate me over tons of patron at the US cost and get it to me with no duty and no BIB issues then we will sell it cheaper than those who have to buy it here.
Keep dreamin folks.
patron is now distributed here by ital asia and costs you a few k baht per bottle. some discounts apply with lots of bottles but it is like 3-4 times what is costs in the states especially if you buy it at costco.
welcome to thailand folks.
the limes do this every year. it is nuts.
mamacitas is here BTW folks:
http://www.durianseed.com/thailand/bangkok/restaurants/mexican/sukhumvit/nana/mamacitas-kitchen-mexican-restaurant/
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 05.05.2009
British Women caught smuggling drugs in Laos…
s – agreed. the only reason this article was remotely interesting was that she is pregnant and how.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.05.2009
Manny Pacquiao vs Ricky Hatton @ The Mango
goodwife – julio is amazing but manny would knock is head off as well me thinks.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.05.2009
agreed the undercard was a boring sack of shit.
anymore though it seems fighters are so miss matched – I mean let’s face it. Hatton was no more ready for that fight than YP would be. HE was SLAUGHTERED. He should hang it up just out of respect for how embarrassing it must have been. an 8 round fight with both of them cut would be more fun.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.05.2009
The party, girls on girls, & the lower Suk shutdown…
yeah the girl we saw at jj was smoking hot – young and with a serious chest tattoo. u have to respect the high tolerance for pain.she was in this t shirt shop with skater gear – actually the girl working there was smoking as well.
got yp and I wondering where girls like this go to drink and a few friends mentioned there are some bars at OKT with this scene. nothing for sure but another place to explore.
never enough puss is there?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.05.2009
that type of look but maybe some more hair funkiness but u get my drift. something more than the prototypical thai girl look.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.05.2009
British Women caught smuggling drugs in Laos…
g – for the record not arguing she is not in trouble or deserving of the countries punishment. That is clear – u think they will shoot her with a baby inside. I doubt it. If she was raped in prison you think they got an issue to deal with – I think so.My guess is the international community will raise the noise level on this soon since I don’t think laos will put a pregnant chick in front of the gun squad.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.05.2009
The party, girls on girls, & the lower Suk shutdown…
e – to be clear though the real tom and dee scene is not in the p4p. sure u see the girls on girls and the tom like girls who hustle the bar girls but it is the proper ones that are a hell of a lot hotter IMHO.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.05.2009
British Women caught smuggling drugs in Laos…
e – sure. fairly black and white like the laws in sing and stuff. I think the interesting angle is that she is pregnant and it happened while she was in jail. they kind of makes shooting her a different problem now and how did she get knocked up?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.05.2009
The party, girls on girls, & the lower Suk shutdown…
mart – yeah. there are a few clubs and places I have heard and need to check it. the few girls I know who go to these spots have a funky look with some tats, cool hair and piercing. Not crazy but funky. so I figure there must be more of them there – the only little spit I read about I still cannot find.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.05.2009
bbb2 – pmmp – normal girls. right…
like he always said – if he were to get a dog it would be a pit bull. enuff said
gs – that all sounds too good to be true but i would be game for being a sperm donor as long as they lay side by side and touch each during the glorious process
wcd – proves my point exactly. one – needing to speak the lingo – is more of an after hours place and is not really a club in the notion of decent music and a real dance floor. once again the clubs that most fit that bill are q and bed
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.05.2009
pood – all good but I want the dees on dees
nr – it is the area of bars, pubs and clubs near jj market – very thai and a funkier crowd
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 04.05.2009
1st timers review of Q Bar by Canadian Boy
msb – I am sure q is a shade of its former self but I am stunned that it is always busyyp – save the visuals
j – citadines is a hotel chain but the minibar place I linked to is getting quite the crowd of his so thais on the the weekends and for brunch. th-sun it gets quite packed at night time. been the talk of the town in the thai circles.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.05.2009
Manny Pacquiao vs Ricky Hatton @ The Mango
dw – point is when someone trash talks like this they best not be knocked out cold in the second round:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxingandmma/5197292/Ricky-Hatton-Manny-Pacquiao-there-to-be-hit.html
Hatton said: “Manny fights the same way all the time. He’s effective at what he does but he’s not a versatile fighter.
“He’s never met a man as fiery, ferocious or rough as me – and certainly not as big and strong.
“I don’t think Manny is the most elusive. He comes very square-on and he’s there to be hit. And if he gets hit he’s going to get hit by the biggest man he’s ever faced. It will be a very explosive fight.”
I think hatton meant to say implosive and he was talking about his career…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.05.2009
1st timers review of Q Bar by Canadian Boy
i – true stuffmax don – when we write the budget conscious guide to drinking at high end places and banging high end girls in bangkok we will have to mention the cdine. however I live here so I don’t see myself spending a night in the cdine just to gain free cover to q bar.
I think my point is to try and distill the MYTH that q bar is high end or that the hookers there are something special.
they are not.
if u are staying in the cdine why not try your chops on real high end girls drinking at minibar?
http://www.durianseed.com/thailand/bangkok/restaurants/french/sukhumvit/asok_soi_cowboy/minibar-royale/
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.05.2009
ldream – fair point but please – labeling q bar high end just cause they ban shorts and sandals? If they banned bad taste in fashion I think half the crowd would barred at the door.
and the girls? pick them up in tunnel later for less since they discount as the night goes on. I know some guys love to think they are on the game or getting the cream but they cream does not flow to q bar – not like it use to.
take the 3000 k and hit a sideliner at caesars for better quality and service to boot. same the 750 for something more interesting.
q bar tired but listed in lonely planet…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.05.2009
jd – nice one
I think one has to decide what one is looking for when going clubbing.
q bar is for the I want to be seen and overpay for my drinks while thinking I am talking to normal girls who are really hookers.
Bed club is for the I want to overpay but I appreciate good music and I dont give a shit about the girls unless one falls in my lap who either has her own car or who is not asking for more than 2k.
Twisted is for the – wait I don’t even know if it is open anymore and I dont care.
Diva is for the I want to overpay to get in and overpay for normal drinks that they label as premium. Since when is Jack a premium drink? Back to the I want to overpay and pretend I am in a g club with semi coyote dancers who will go with you but are more expensive and look the same as girls in cowboy.
Narz is for the I want to party and I dont give a fuck about anyone and there is no cover and the bottle prices are okay. Helps also if one is “under the influence”.
Glow is for the people who are too cool to go to the big clubs and need to see a photo of themselves online so they can link to facebook to prove to the FB crowd they are one of the cool kids.
I will see u all down at Or Tor Kor checking out the tattooed and pierced Thai girls looking some white meat.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.05.2009
rr-I think floyd wont take a piece of it cause he will get killed but maybe he is greedy enough.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.05.2009
Manny Pacquiao vs Ricky Hatton @ The Mango
dw – not bashing here but hatton was already talking about hanging it up. I think his issue was NOT listening to the trainer who said to cover up rather than brawl. had hatton covered his noggin it might have been a fight worth watching.who would hatton fight now? best to go out on a semi-top before any more blunders like today
bottom line is the hatton team talked a big talk. I never respect that especially when they got PUMMELED
yp – who was the big dude who walked in with manny? is he the MMA guy.
going to cruise soi 4 looking for someone to punch. lots of stunned brits walking around
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.05.2009
rumor was yesterday that hatton was frustrated with the new training and wanted to fight his old way – which was to leave his face wide open for someone to hit it.
manny did. fuck.
hatton will retire now if he is smart.
the trainer should go back to being a couch potato
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.05.2009
I think hatton needs to stand down. its over
the trainer should be fired
but this is just a larger metaphor for the current state of asia versus the western world…
damn – that looked like it hurt…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.05.2009
1st timers review of Q Bar by Canadian Boy
bang – i hear u but this is not a paid position and frankly I can’t be bothered when there is a big fight onkisses
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.05.2009
Manny Pacquiao vs Ricky Hatton @ The Mango
pood – interesting since it is still listed as PPVI would not be surprised if it stays on until the main event and then if u don’t pay u don’t get the main event
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.05.2009
manny will take it. no doubt
pood – its only on pay per view or bootleg sat
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 02.05.2009
ldream – wall street is crap but there are good schools and no one learns any language well just being around people speaking it. school is better.as for working in pubs – perfect way for her to meet other farang guys for “practice” but not so much language practice.
agreed on the more of your friends the better thing – that is as long as your friends tell u if they see something. perfect mini spy network.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.04.2009
ltd – no drama. the sister is with me.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 26.04.2009
tsl – politics rule. thanks
ed – spot on. dw – get that in there. u seem to be confusing us with YP. please. I am girls only but I won’t fault a guy for slipping it to a cut LB.
pmmp – nice ones. get those in there DW.
jd – love hand jobs
the man – how is the ex wife?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 26.04.2009
The Land of the Morning Calm Part 1 by DebtStar
ds – tons of info here. wish I had known some of this when I was going regularly. I did manage to have good times in the discos and met tons of girls. hard to pull though. I was taken many times to the expensive karaoke places. Strange fun. These places had musicians and singers to back you up. I always sounded good.One note on the cabs. If you don’t take the deluxe ones the cabbies can pick up other passengers along the way. First time that happened I was a little put off by it.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 22.04.2009
Tokyo Joes(Bangkok) Review by Werewolf
my guess is TJ will be on a long list of many places that wont survive the wwff, the airport mess and the political morass we call thailand. not sure I would be so hard on the place.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.02.2009
10 things I hate about Bangkok by On Nutter
i h b – please dont let the airplane door hit you on the ass on the way out but thank god you are leaving
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 02.02.2009
Accosted by a Spinner by Arthur
mart – being a thai taxi driver isn’t all bad then…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.01.2009
jc – fair point but some of is live there. thx
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.01.2009
ndog – help me out bro
what are u talking about?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.01.2009
mr c – crackheads have no reason for living – kind of like short people but crackwhores – CWs – that is something different entirely…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 19.01.2009
I think the issue here is that girls are not normally seen working this part of town. so it is not like beach road or lower suk where one knows how it works and is used to it.
So it could appear all normal like a typical p4p scene or is there something more to it since although p4p is the norm – this is not a normal area for it.
my guess is the economy is worsening and girls are popping up in more places but who knows.
yp – u act like being a smackhead is a problem or something?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 19.01.2009
How To Acquire (And Ingest) A Tasty, English Breakfast. In Bangkok. For Dummies. Etc.
gs – I would love to since this is just a bold grab for the top commented post but it is tough for me to separate the spam out.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.01.2009
co – There are times after a particularly hard bout of partying and rich eating that after a longer than normal time in the throne room that I wonder if I haven’t offal’d – but usually I don’t stare at it long enough to be sure, I see no reason to write about it and putting it on a plate as an accompaniment to breakfast just seems well – ludicrous.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.01.2009
bbb – absolute shameless push for the comment count
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.01.2009
The Real Deal On The US-THAI Treaty Of Amity
smack dab – always best to get a lawyer or a setup company involved to learn the latest. U actually need 4 mil for amity, not sure the latest on work permits and I am not sure on the satellite office but I don’t think it means much since you still need a company here.I am sure soi lawyer or sutlet could answer these for u.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 22.12.2008
Making Plans – Part 1 by Young Penfold
IMHO the penthouse has seen its better days. The nickel and dime u to death and the room rates are up there anymore. They also had the kiddie porn.daywalker and pmmp stayed at the joint above heaven’s above which is smaller but has a jacuzzi room. for a smaller party it might be fine.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.12.2008
cat -
it is more a tail of learning – about my own stupidity than it is a review. the chapter is not closed so tough to write about it but it is formulating.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.12.2008
catman – its coming. was better to post this first and link in…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.12.2008
i -
http://www.bigmangobar.com/main/2007/11/17/spicy-tuk-tuks-lucky-and-gravatars/
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.12.2008
yp – it only makes sense you would agree with me.
from experience – they gooder they are the worse they tend to be in bed.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.12.2008
bkk – agreed. the label is so silly especially since it is subjective.
gs – so true. the problem I have had with the real good girls is they are kind of boring and not so much fun on the sack. i guess if one is looking to get married, be normal and have kids – she fits the bill.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.12.2008
pg – great points
she is just a worldly girl in my opinion
I know tons of farangs in the world who are not prostitutes – if that is the label we are using to denote non good girl – that have tats, piercings and love sex
u mean to tell me that there are no thai girls like this? there are tons.
there again – what is a good girl in the thai sense?
never had sex?
never drank?
only love thai guys?I mean this is not a label easily applied
is it the white skinned bangkok girls who live sheltered lives that are good girls?
for me good is more to with behavior, their outlook on life and their background
can a bar girl be a good girl? I guess that is up to some people but I have met nice bargirls who are better to be around than a stuck up hi so girl.
I think for some people they are trying to mean they dont want a bar girl or a p4p girl. But one cannot say that all non p4p girls are good girls. no way
this is subjective – just like beauty to some extent
pg – can I have her number BTW?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.12.2008
rain – no offense dude but u are way off
too lay such mandates down you would need to define good girl. U mean stuck up hi so girls might not go to suk? they do drink buddy. Ever been to thong lo or ekkamai
it is silly to brand the good girls and then to say where they will go and what they will do.
I kind of get what u mean but are creating such a false black and white judgment and deciding what a good girl is or is not. Most of the “good girls” are pretty lame in the sack anyway.
either way one would have to define good girl to make such statemants
ab – there are some with tats but then again what is a good girl?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 03.12.2008
eb – thanks. I feel better now
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.11.2008
billy – I think the difference is the service is better and if there is a problem with it or a girl you can complain and usually see results. try that in a gogo bar.
The other difference is also the quality of the punters you meet – both farang and thais is higher. I am typing this post using my GPRS connection from the deck of a pad on a private island off the coast of phuket. thanks to gclubs.
suk – we have been saying for a long time they are different and offer something different. not a competition at all but there are nights people like me choose the go-go or choose the gclub.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.11.2008
b – no. penthouse forum is make believe.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.11.2008
gs- they are just shells of their former self.nana disco killed itself.
gullivers in my opinion got to pricey, shit service and let the nigerians take over.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.11.2008
gullivers is screwed. they say business is down some 30-40% y over y. In my opinion once u let it get taken over by thugs it is hard to take it back.
the man – true but mismanagement lead to the downfall. that is pretty sad.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 09.11.2008
jd – let me be the first to comment.
a post from u is almost too good to be true.
let’s go back to your very first comment:
http://www.bigmangobar.com/reader-submissions/2007/02/22/what-would-you-have-done/#comment-542
What could you do?
I mean it sums up your entire tone for the blog. Tell it like it is without being an ass, without picking a fight and with so much embedded humor at times I cannot contain myself.
Love the advice. Hit it hard. So true. We forget that many times.
Nana disco is done. What is so sad is that they ruined it. Used to be the best thing after hours in lower suk. Someone should be fired. The take must be way off – is that not enough to know they fucked up? I guess not. Stunning.
Love the free rest rooms. Used them so many times I cannot remember. The only place I know in soi 4 that is always there when in need and u never get stopped. Awesome.
For sale? I could believe it. Get out while it still looks like the getting is good. If NEP becomes a hotel – Nana hotel is toast.
So many nuggets in this post.
great stuff.
Thanks for contributing.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 08.11.2008
Newbie comes to visit Daywalker in the Motherland
dw – clarification needed I think.I am hard up for cash. DW paid me to teabag him.
I obliged.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.11.2008
dw – okay. funny but disgusting.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.11.2008
fish – it was not that funny in person…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.11.2008
hey all
check out how wrong spam blogs are sometime…
http://www.golftrainingaidstoday.com/3146/newbie-comes-to-visit-daywalker-in-the-motherland/
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.11.2008
How To Acquire (And Ingest) A Tasty, English Breakfast. In Bangkok. For Dummies. Etc.
bbb – I think we can use this thread to announce and track your non smoking quest now that obama has won. Is that correct?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 05.11.2008
Getting out of dodge :: Rayong
mm – good stuff.if u end up writing up a trip report or have other info please send it in!
thanks!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 28.10.2008
When Getting Laid is All That Matters by Werewolf
yr – we don’t live in the bar. sorryemail us upon arrival for best chance of hooking up.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 08.10.2008
milo – true
last paragraph is so spot on
also – I have no issues with the scene here. I am on no moral high ground but people must know that p4p is not the only way. this is a huge city. massive. p4p is cool though. As one of the good girls told me. P4p helps the good(bad) boys be patient when trying to nail the good girls.
spot on.
but sex content does not always mean p4p – right?
Not even sure u have to be well off. Punching above my weight has been amazing here. I am keeping the dreads tight, the jeans clean and the shirts funky. I am peacocking the male way. It works. Have some witty lines, smile a lot, drop some polite thai and u are well on your way.
It’s called the game – bkk style.
my first book.
not sure why people don’t try it more.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.10.2008
milo – great points
not sure what u mean on the genie – content and style of the blog have been pretty diverse from day 1.
this is interesting:
Guys who recognise Thailand is a great destination and place to live with the added benefit of easy sex that they may not be afraid to pay for.
so true – what really FUCKS people up is easy or say great sex or regular sex that u DONT have to pay for.
I don’t want to hear the typical monger line of u always pay for it and shit like that. I don’t buy it. There are girls here, in Thailand folks, with money who want to get laid. Or want bf’s or fuck buddies and the strings are not to be seen.
of course on the days that the strings are too thick or I struck out – there is always angels. Good value at 2100 baht all in.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.10.2008
yr – no offense. I live here. it is better here.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.10.2008
suk – sorry. I did not mean it to be negative.
I just meant that I don’t think covering p4p or nightlife should mean I have to stay away from other subjects. Which I don’t plan on doing.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.10.2008
How To Acquire (And Ingest) A Tasty, English Breakfast. In Bangkok. For Dummies. Etc.
d – nice videoproblem is the financial superiority mentioned kind of is not true anymore.
I still stand by the facts though – subprime was invented in London. Looks like Europe is just starting to feel the pain of their own inventions.
problem is that each time we comment more on this post BBB head swells…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.10.2008
When Getting Laid is All That Matters by Werewolf
pg – not saying it is not about nightlife. however I do not think it is only p4p. My point is – the situation that creates bkk or pattaya or p4p is heavily dependent on culture, politics and business. so I see them as intertwined.sure – once could separate a blog out or pick themes but I think bkk is big enough and crazy enough to tackle it as a whole. Hence why having u on board is so cool since pattaya is another beast.
people always read what they want. does any always read every article in every magazine. no. they still buy it.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.10.2008
UAE (Dubai, Abu Dhabi) by mbkknowsp4p
l – no offense. As curator of this blog I was doing u a favor. Pushed this post into the top 15 of most commented posts on the blog. U should thank me.Hoping it will overtake BBB’s breakfast post someday.
peace.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.10.2008
I thought PE covered the Moscow hotel well here:
In Moscow hotels, a girlfriend is provided by the state, and is stored in the closet next to the communal lavatory. Simply insert a token (available at the reception desk) into the lock at her ankle and escort her back to your room. Sexy-time is strictly limited to 53 minutes, and is shown by the clockwork mechanism on the snap-shut vagina-anus security device. Those wishing to receive a lady of their own choosing (from the line stretching around the block from the door) must pay extra for defrosting and be subject to a delousing-spray at the official delousing centre within not more than 12 minutes of ejaculation.
this thread has to the oldest post on the blog still getting up to date comments. Amazing.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.10.2008
When Getting Laid is All That Matters by Werewolf
tsl – exactly!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.10.2008
pe -great points.
I have always tried to highlight the huge difference between holidaying in bkk and living here. massive.
I tried to explain that bkk made life so much easier:
http://www.bigmangobar.com/u-of-mango/2007/08/03/in-thailand-satisfying-maslows-first-level-is-easy/
my point was. getting laid or finding female companionship is so easy here. Maybe not finding your mate is but it is possible. this leaves you more time for other pursuits.
so in my world I have more time for everything else since I don’t really worry about getting laid. Its like breathing here.
great stuff.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.10.2008
suk – I don’t think it was that strange.
I also don’t think it was all related to g clubs either
People always read what they want – I also write what I want.
From day 1 I never created a p4p blog. I created a life in bkk blog which includes p4p, business, politics and so on.
It is what it is.
Having our best month on record in OCT I am inclined to think the model works and people are not only reading for p4p.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.10.2008
ww – great post.
Have always wanted to tackle this subject. one could go further and even discuss why people think u can only get laid with working girls. Or discuss why some think it is a waste of time to chase non working girls.
Is not the beauty in Bkk in that it is all here? On any given day. Sure – I may have stuck out with a hottie on a night of clubbing but I had fun. She was cool and I will keep at it. No drama. I hit Angels the next day to ease my anxiety. No drama. So much better than in the US when after chasing tail u have very little fallback options for release.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 06.10.2008
Pre-Prohibition party, Wall Street is fucked & new a book…
zep – blasted your comment until u can take the tape off of your caps lock key. thankslolita – there u go. fuck the economy – get a massage.
pass euro though – it sucks
http://www.wickedtraveler.com/thailand/bangkok/massage/shops/sukhumvit/asok_soi_cowboy/euro-massage/
head to angels:
http://www.wickedtraveler.com/thailand/bangkok/massage/shops/sukhumvit/other/angel-massage-soi-24/
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 02.10.2008
UAE (Dubai, Abu Dhabi) by mbkknowsp4p
pe – if sexy-time is over 53 minutes what do u do?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 01.10.2008
Pre-Prohibition party, Wall Street is fucked & new a book…
zep – last warning. I swear it. Any more caps lock comments will get trashed. thanks!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 01.10.2008
bbb – correct but I usually flash it when I do…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 30.09.2008
Getting an HIV test in Sukhumvit
soi 11 – no offense. been going there for years. i would not call them a back alley joint nor could I ever imagine them recycling needles as they are a clinic with real doctors.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 24.09.2008
MSB – that is correct. I think it is 2500 but I think it is cheaper than the hospitals for the similar lab work.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 23.09.2008
ww – nice article
this seems relevant:
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iumSDbW4gNrkZp7hKBIGS_aOwDRQ
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 23.09.2008
10 things I hate about Bangkok – Part 6 by On Nutter
pe – we don’t tolerate the language
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 21.09.2008
on nutter – its fucking funny. end of story
zep – I went to angels. thanks for the reminder of why it is great living here.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.09.2008
ato and kdog – pulls your small heads out of your asses.
ato – you do this all time boy. u are so negative that you can’t even digest a humorous piece. I would say u are the unhappy one but I won’t tell u to go home.
Just stop reading the blog. I don’t need your page views as bad u need to be an ass.
thanks!
it takes someone who really knows bkk and loves it to wrtie stuff like this to begin with.
on nutter – great stuff. love the photos.
the brolly brigade is becoming an increasing danger to me – since they are hooking my dreads. shit.
nok – so true.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 20.09.2008
How To Acquire (And Ingest) A Tasty, English Breakfast. In Bangkok. For Dummies. Etc.
bbb – no offense you cracked the top ten not over your culinary expertise but because no one can agree on the subject which shows that basically a typical english breakfast is mostly considered a plate of crap – except from people who are english.however the more we debate this the more the comments will come and the more you will win.
so I am over it.
congrats.
I am having a Mango McMUFFin to celebrate!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 17.09.2008
btw – having just landed the 100th comment we can stop that game.
I will be working on my 10 part series soon of how america is better than every country but especially england for dummies.
I will be consulting with BBK to make sure I get the gambling analogies right, the man for historical references, RD for my english issues, WW for making sure I don’t get England and Australia mixed up and YP will be the offensive coordinator. Meaning I need him to make sure I make it offensive enough.
I may also create podcasts or video casts to stress things with pictures knowing the literacy rates of people from areas like liverpool, lodi and udon thani.
Also – let me highlight a few of the other most commented posts that are still in the top 15:
http://www.bigmangobar.com/main/2008/04/17/lessons-in-seo-stupidity-of-farangs-or-crazy-bargirls/
http://www.bigmangobar.com/main/2007/10/25/drink-the-mango-dry-nights/
http://www.bigmangobar.com/main/2008/05/23/the-new-way-forward-part-2/
http://www.bigmangobar.com/main/2008/07/24/more-politics-breakfast-and-remembering-anonzo/
http://www.bigmangobar.com/main/2008/02/25/were-baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack/
http://www.bigmangobar.com/main/2008/06/13/bkk-in-a-funk/
http://www.bigmangobar.com/main/2008/07/23/surrounded-by-white-trash/
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.09.2008
pe – we deleted the offensive comments and deleted the responses to them cause once we deleted the offensive ones the replied lost their context.
also to those that care:
vegemite = marmite
We will also delete shameless comments that are just for getting the 100th comment.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.09.2008
on nutter – please dont use the silver dollar as an example of a venue for american food or decent mexican food. maybe – 10 years ago but not today. I went over their to try the SOS – which by the way is not really a good sample of american fare – and was pretty let down.
They said it could be ordered with proper white biscuits which is the best way to eat it. I waited like 20 minutes for it and it was served over wheat toast that had not been toasted with a very raw egg. The slop – the actual SOS was not bad but overall a big let down.
I may try their pancakes and stuff but I doubt it will be good. Real awesome american breakfast choices don’t seem to be implemented well by the Thais. That is why in Thailand you don’t see too many good american breakfast options. Even in america a good breakfast short order cook is a rare thing and a coveted gig. the mexicans do okay but they tend to mexican out the menu. So I can’t honestly point people to a good option but having worked in England a fair bit I don’t see a real good proper english breakfast in Thailand – full, half or q that compares. Pig’s blood or not.
The mango mcMUFFin comes with a proper sausage patty. I think it is perfect. So deal with it. We need to evolve the options more and we will over time.
I do think this whole argument is funny and I love the bashing people get into. We have had to delete some comments and commenters for going way over the line here.
Get a life folks!
Clearly the whole thing is a piss take since BBB sits at home most of the time and orders pizza and drinks beer laos. Beer laos is a brew from Laos started by a female brewer from checkoslovokia and pizza company is an american owned company with a thai twist. So much for his country loyalty.
This debate about scotland, ireland , england is silly. It is all the same country anyway so who cares. If not the same country then the same continent. And if not that then the same people with mostly the same lifestyle with mostly the same currency. At least I think but as an american I am not sure where these places really are but still debating it is silly. Ireland is like Canada to me.
The english breakfast has some options but is mainly a bunch of basic and non basic things all fried up and served in unholy portions. It has nothing on the advancement of such items as omelets, pancakes, various forms of potatoes, proper bacon, good bread and so on. Let alone waffles, french toats,fried grits, the tex mex options and so on.
I think the man summed it up well with describing how america has had to fix the food, the language, the financial system and so on. Before anyone comments please note that the whole subprime mess was invented in England by 2 english bankers who started the very products that caused the meltdown and the meltdown of their own hedge funds.
But hell BBB – i will give you the breakfast win and take the blissful allure of america. I mean where else could someone like McCain and Pallin actually exist let alone stage a comeback?
So who is bringing the Krispy Kreme DONUTS – the grill awaits!
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.09.2008
bbb – the bean thing is nothing about sweet. it is about having beans on a breakfast plate. When i mentioned that the first time u said they were sweet – like that would make the difference. sweet or not – beans are not for breakfast.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.09.2008
pe – you started off so well and then had to end with the typical american bashing. Well – deal:
the man – I hear you but jimmy dean? Please. american can do better than jimmy dean but you are on the right path. pancakes are so important. add in a donut and some fruit to really round it off.
j – please. don’t u come from a country that eats vegemite?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.09.2008
dw – u are pretty observant but I am not that blatant or predictable. Whatever it is that baldy, pmmp, bubba and so on have been doing we will never tell you. But 3 or 4 months from now when u don’t even remember this conversation we will be happy to produce the video for your viewing pleasure.
I love u too.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.09.2008
rd – u know u want one. when I make on in the mango and I allow u to only look but not ingest u will be sorry.
t – that sounds pretty sick. I thought the hamburger was pushing it. We used to eat at nationwide meats in downtown sac. an old meat locker converted to a burger joint with fresh meat. the nationwide – as it was called I think was – a huge beef patty, cheese, bacon, and a sliced up hot dog. all mashed between a fried bun and served with fries. fries were a potato cut in 4 and dropped in the fryer. comatose comes to mind after ingestion.
however I think kk mango cheeseburger might work – for some people.
the blog post sounds interesting. get on it.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.09.2008
dw – if u were here I would bitch slap u. fyi.
given u have never had KK u don’t know how to deal with them. I do. I have had to deal with 2 day old ones before since they was the only way to get them. Lightly microwaving them works pretty well.
Having never made burgers with them I am assuming a light dose of the microwave to soften them and then using them for the burgers should work. Meaning the freshness of them might not matter that much.
For u though I have some special reserve buns. Been saving them for a while. Just for u.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.09.2008
i – nice. valiant efforts will be hugely appreciated.
m – did u comment in error or something? wrong blog?
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.09.2008
i – bring on the pop tarts. will toast them up for the bar but also bring a small box of normal glazed KKs if u can. I know they will be 2 days old but we are going to use them for burger buns so no drama.
I can taste it now…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.09.2008
ww – so true. never got the whole beans for breakfast thing.
That jimmy dean thing is scary but pop tarts rule. I am a strawberry with white frosting type. Toasted. Cold glass of milk. damn. I actually found some at the tops supermarket on soi 26 years ago – they had some corner with overpriced american goods. Damn they were tasty. anyone ? anyone? pop tarts rule.
I think BBB is actually been writing an addendum to this that he will break up into smaller morsels that he can fling into the comments. My guess is that it was party of the strategy.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.09.2008
dw – I doubt YP has a kitchen and if so I doubt he can cook. Point is American Cheeseburgers rock – Krispy Kremes are next to divine. The two together seem pretty magical. I would try to make these, knowing Mango burgers rule the bloody roost, but I don’t have any Krispy Kremes.
Just deal with it.
Hell – just ignore it since you will never understand.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.09.2008
This is what I think of all this:
And to anyone coming in from anywhere in the world with Krispy Kremes – please bring a box to the Big Mango ASAP. Day old or not I promise to make Mango Cheeseburgers with KK Buns.
Now that is what I call breakfast.
To hell with plates of food with congealed pig’s blood.
Also – anyone caught trying to negotiate for their breakfast in the mango will get bitch slapped.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 15.09.2008
How To Marry The Scag-Monkey Girlie-Man Of Your Dreams by Pants Elk
I am pretty sure I was around when BBB bought that said beer and I am pretty sure I can always remember WW being too drunk to probably know that it even happened.so there…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 14.09.2008
ab – pants elk is right where he needs to be. here with us at the mango blog.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.09.2008
pe – bravo. some super funny shite that is.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.09.2008
S. Botan – Cheapolay throws us a bone…
terry – great info! where the hell is Krungthon Plaza ?thanks
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 10.09.2008
The Real Deal On The US-THAI Treaty Of Amity
rd – it won’t. cause I won’t let it. PE is just excited about the breakfast post, the ticycle spotting at the party and could not help himself. But never fear. SSB the admin is here.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.09.2008
KT – the work permit costs and rules for an amity company are no different than a normal company. The only difference is the amount of needed capital is higher per work permit. It is 2 million baht per work permit per person of invested capital. Keep in mind though invested capital is just a “paper” thing.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 07.09.2008
The pre-weekly – lightning round!
dj – u are correct about the hotels but they are not doing anything about it. A lot of the complaints from the bigger hotels is the late night street activity, the ladyboys and the general low-life nature of the place late at night. the landmark specifically is doing a lot of things behind the scenes to deal with it. they are the big landowner all around the plaza and even control some of the leases to some current bars on soi 4. they HATE nep.i was hearing nana is running 60%. unheard of numbers if compared to the past.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 31.08.2008
pe – correct but I always find it funny that every time this subject comes up people get all bewildered wondering how could NEP ever go away. won’t Nana hotel save it? What will the bars do? and so and so on. It is simple economics at the end of the day – nothing more but one can see the difference between NEP and Cowboy and the results are telling. That has to be blamed on NEP management and owners. If NEP were doing better I think it would stand a better chance of survival.
oh well. carry on. nothing to see here folks.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 30.08.2008
pe – well if someone does not make it better it will go but I am sure the punters will bitch at bar owners later rather than bitching now.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 30.08.2008
8 ball – if that is the case why even go then? go to some nice island or beach that is not ruined, overpriced and overrun. I think the only reason to go to phukett is you want the beaches and water combined with some form of P4P. Otherwise head to a cleaner and cheaper island in my opinion.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 30.08.2008
The pre-weekly – lightning round!
pe – to be clear though i am not calling for NEP’s head. Quite the contrary I am simply stating that if they don’t make it better it will go away. I love the place – hell I built a bar though but the place is slowly rotting away and no one seems to care. Well the powers that be, not the punters or the bar owners, will help the place along if the folks running it cannot reverse the trend. Nana hotel is a little remora fish on the back of the plaza. The other hotels don’t really care if NEP or the hotel go away. Sad but true.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 30.08.2008
dj – nana hotel? let’s be honest – a part from the folks who frequent it no one in lower suk in the hotel biz considers it of any importance. Occupancy rates are already low, the place is a dump and the rest of the proper businesses detest the late night nana parking lot scene. Sure – from what I know nana hotel is the only one bitching but the only one. The new hotels going up on soi don’t care and the marriott plus the landmark are already pushing for the nana to go. None of them give a shit about nana hotel.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 30.08.2008
suk – not really how I put it. We never said it could just suddenly stop but the laws of economics are in play. the master lease is up in 4 years. the guys who have the lease would love to buy the place but it will take some serious coin. The empty lot by soi 6 and nana bts set record land prices only months ago. For the master lease guys to buy the land they would need to raise bar rents. would u pay a lot more than u pay now for drinking in the plaza? I doubt it. So with empty bars and shit service it would be tough for any bar owner to raise prices and then tough for any lease holder to raise rents. With restaurants and pool bars going in that surely pull down less money than go-go bars – the writing is on the wall. Also local hotel owners are now calling for the end of nana because they think it is an eyesore. So my point is that if they fixed it up and had more business there would be a greater chance for survival. Instead they seem to be doing the opposite. Essentially trying to drain the turnip before it goes rotten.
ww – so true. the comment stream helps u to pinpoint his presence.
jd – so true. u see their new sign for the exchange booth? my guess is they dont make any money so he just keeps adding things hoping something will stick. no comment on the LB since it is not my personal taste but yeah nana has a lot of LB bars. Sin done. Can’t help u much with the parking lot. Out of principle I cannot eat a mail in NEP.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 28.08.2008
I see asian women all the time so I was more interested in the US tail – plus they wore the best outfits or had posed somewhere else as well.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.08.2008
Looks to me like they all pass the crumb test…
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.08.2008
b – I talked to pmmp. I think u are describing daywalker actually.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 27.08.2008
e – thanks bud.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 25.08.2008
Mango Game Show – Part 2 – Is she a he? by pmmp
ww – thanks for the reminder. Ever so helpful.
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 23.08.2008
theguru – don’t do a lot of big talking before u get writing. it might go over better. submit the faq and we will post it.tricycle had his day as well:
http://www.bigmangobar.com/reader-submissions/2008/07/11/tricycles-guide-to-really-working-the-g-clubs-on-the-cheap/
Comment posted by sideshowBOB at 16.08.2008
Tagged your it – Part 2 by Young Penfold
jm – jesus dude. at least u figured out how to read blogs. awesome that u have chosen to read our most esteemed blog.love u baby.
go obama.
Comment posted by smitty at 04.08.2008
Mango Game Show – Part 2 – Is she a he? by pmmp
same – but different. rather shocking.the clean up from the mango studios after party was out of control. YP is gnarly.
I scored 100 percent and I have not previous experience but BBB whispered all the right answers in my ear. He said YP told him which ones were which but then YP said he got the answers from pants elk. all in all just very confusing since PE scored so badly. I guess I was just lucky.
screw discovery channel – this will be a live broadcast on the blog.
Comment posted by smitty at 28.07.2008
Tagged your it – Part 2 by Young Penfold
howdidyourbackgetsowet – I must say u spend more time talking about coming to the bar than time actually spent in the bar. why wouldn’t it be a safe place?get on over… whip on some mexican food while u are there 2
Comment posted by smitty at 27.07.2008
pe – its weird. I bought those some x ray vision goggles years ago and they do nothing for me but they do wonders for u. how did u know? pmmp kept it from me for months but I finally caught him hunched over the computer one afternoon banging out a yp post. he was wearing a wig at the time, had orange contacts in and was drinking a flat spy wine cooler. suddenly it all made sense.
Comment posted by smitty at 27.07.2008
mycreviceneedsfilling – the purpose is entertainment. Much like your screen name I gather. I will take your feedback though and process through our feedback engine. The bit bucket. Or the trash for those non geeks.
yp is the up and coming tucker max of se asia
http://www.tuckermax.com/
pmmp and I have locked up the book and movie rights. YP signed them away one night over his 10th piint. he just does not know it yet.
Comment posted by smitty at 27.07.2008
Mango Game Show – Part 1 by pmmp
the man – never used them even when i was a tenant. I aint that dumb.
Comment posted by smitty at 26.07.2008
h – i could not give a rats ass. seems to me american companies are getting bought out left right and center because of the poor economy and lots of mis-management. Bud sucks ass anyway.
howwetisyourbacktoday – pmmp obviously controls the show. I am simply SSB but I love the idea. How sick is the getup and will u use a small, malnourished soi dog as a pretend chihuahua?
Comment posted by smitty at 26.07.2008
My guess is the WW and BBB toss can only work one way.
I think we need to do this show for real – maybe as an online video. I am calling my Indian tailor to get working on my SSB outfit.
Anxiously awaiting part 2 in case it influences my outfit at all.
Comment posted by smitty at 26.07.2008
Tagged your it – Part 1 by Young Penfold
p – it was not. I figured YP was banging this out as he played and it better captured his ridiculous lifestyle. stay tuned for the TV show.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.07.2008
i and sick,never had a problem with it but I don’t think they are twisting them up that much for this to happen.
fun stuff
someone had this happen before?
Comment posted by ssb at 21.07.2008
kevin -u have to look in other places and probably have to date girls that won’t have sex with u either. bkk has it all. the kind of girls u speak of are not who yp is looking for.
I think u can find what u want but u have to be picky, date a lot and probably meet some pretty boring girls who are looking for marriage.
no easy answers here but yes they are out there.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.07.2008
Visit To An Issan Bar Girl Factory by Pants Elk
A uk – way off topic. Put a lid on it.
Comment posted by smitty at 18.07.2008
dw – no wonder why hollywood is in america and not england
Comment posted by smitty at 18.07.2008
Shit. Had I known the revenue model I would have gotten into the go-go business. Do they have a website where i can pre-order one? No use heading to cowboy if I can just keep one at home. Makes my sony aibo look so dull in comparison.
Comment posted by smitty at 18.07.2008
Bangkok Guide to picking up Thai Bi-Girls with your Thai Bi-Girlfriend by mbkknowsp4p
als – would love to help u bud but I see it getting messy. Your girl can meet my girl in my girl’s room. Of course I will be hiding in the closet. No sick video shit but after an hour of watching them 69 I will have to get in there.sorry bud.
Comment posted by ssb at 28.06.2008
Away from Pay-for-Play by Werewolf
ww – really. keep on plugging.j – I agree with you. It is not always about looks for mannerisms and working it. Some people just don’t want to work it. Which is no problem. Leaves more for me.
My take has always been in areas with p4p is to chase non p4p and if I get lucky. great. If not there is always a fallback position. NO blue balls or self love around these parts.
Even better. Have a gf, gun for some side salad and still enjoy p4p. Its asia. Thats why we live here.
Comment posted by smitty at 19.06.2008
c – given the mango is built we need some new construction porn so how about we get some blow by blows here on the blog with your experiences in building a house for your isaan honey.
fun fun
Comment posted by smitty at 18.06.2008
ww – great post.
I think chiang rai and chiang mai women have the best tits in thailand.
milo – u have a good point but I think many guys dont want a gf. they want the endless p4p options with no attachment.
for me I have always played it a different way – i want both. maybe toned down a bit to keep my gf from killing me but I see no reason why this country is not completely setup, by the locals, to have a wife or gf and enough fun on the side to keep everything interesting.
that is the point of thailand IMHO.
before anyone jumps on me please note I don’t need a lecture on the western values of monogamy and so on. that is why I left the west.
Comment posted by smitty at 17.06.2008
ww – i would say u hit the nail on the head. better than i could.what I never get is people with one line comments, who never actually write anything are so quick to say they don’t like a post or the writer. no one forces anyone to read anything so what is the deal?
anyway. i hope SJW writes more and I think all in all the blog works for many people for various different reasons.
Comment posted by smitty at 16.06.2008
t – I think one never discovers their own backyard quite the way they do when they visit a city. Since in my mind trips to NYC made me think it was way better than SF for clubs – although SF is more laid back and easier to get into places.There is a brazilian thai running around bkk
http://www.bigmangobar.com/the-weekly/2006/05/07/mango-weekly-07-may-2006/
Comment posted by smitty at 09.06.2008
I think heckler hits on the head. He knows the scene and right now it is shit.
SJW – san fran is pretty damn good for clubs. So was hk. All these in comparison make bkk look pathetic. There is such a focus here on getting laid that sometime the quality of other activities is neglected.
j –
http://www.durianseed.com/thailand/bangkok/bars/clubs/sukhumvit/other/scratch-dog-nightclub/
scratch is pretty lame and in my mind not for the newbies in town. It is not a great pickup joint, the door fee is off the charts now and the music is horrible. Plus more of a table setup than a club. Also not a place for a group of guys to waltz in to and pretend it is spicy. U may get your ass kicked.
yesman – what you describe is the world’s worst way to discover bkk after hours. THe taxis will take you to whatever place is paying them. They announce that over the radios in Thai so the farang don’t know the racket. This means you will end up at boss, lucky or some other shithole. Your technique would never get u to funky dojo, tunnel, renovate or some place else.
Comment posted by smitty at 08.06.2008
t – boozing is 24/7. And the girls. I get that.
I learned it from DW or was it Penfold or DR Bond. I can’t remember now.
Comment posted by smitty at 07.06.2008
sure. There are options but not real “clubbing”. I think some of the points are in this huge city – with good normal hours clubbing – it is amazing that there is nothing for after hours clubbing. One can always find a drink and a girl. Since u are not a clubber anyway – I think this is not a big deal to u. Coming from places like HK, Sing or KL – it is shocking how pathetic Bangkok is in comparison.
The Miracle mile seems to be in full force again.
Comment posted by smitty at 07.06.2008
t – have to disagree with u. There may be 100s of places late night to get a drink, listen to some shit music and deal with the unwanted Thai riff raff but there really are no decent clubs. Clubs in the sense that I think people mean a place to dance, good music and a decent overall vibe. Honestly – with the closure of the tunnel the after hours club life is almost non existent. Spice, Spicy and Boss are the “best” there is – and apart from the occasional perfect storm on a weeknight – the rest of the time they are a bag of shite.
I have been all over the various areas of town and have yet to find anything that could rival the tunnel. Sometime Bar yarn tree is cool but very Thai and not club like with the table setup. Same goes for Rennovate. But the music is all shit at these places. tired hip hop songs from tired DJs. Sure at 11-1 am these places aren’t bad but they fall apart after hours.
I understand you mean the city is big and surely there are late night places to drink but that is not the same as clubbing. The simple economics of how after hours works basically render decent clubbing impossible. The tunnel has learned that lesson quite harshly. I hate it – since they do get it but are also tired of the late night exhortation tactics.
It really sucks. This is the worst part about Bangkok. Even Pattaya kills Bkk for late night options. Hell – Buriram does.
Comment posted by smitty at 07.06.2008
y – I am sure this is the most valid comment u have every made. nice one.
Comment posted by smitty at 06.06.2008
zdan – I think u mean bbk? he was in the mango last night. SJW is back in the real world. So pretty impossible but nice try.
Comment posted by smitty at 04.06.2008
well folks. still a well read post and commented – even if the comments is for bashing poor SJW. I still say it is worth it. He is being a good sport about it and hanging in there – that only deserves part 3.
Despite what everyone thinks – I like seeing people learn about the place through the blog and then share it back with us. How is that bad? I remember my early trips here and hooking up with girls and paying without getting laid. That has happened to many people. Not just SJW. Most people are just afraid to admit that it happens.
anyways. all good stuff.
SJW – u r a good sport about it all.
Comment posted by smitty at 04.06.2008
I think he was too drunk to remember the name. SJW will most likely comment here and try to redeem himself. tosh – get in there.
Comment posted by smitty at 03.06.2008
jim – to each his own. we published part 1 a few days back and was quite well received. would not say tosh is a loser but clearly still learning the ropes. I am sure he will take a well deserved lashing for this one but that is life.
Comment posted by smitty at 03.06.2008
SJW – thanks for the writeup. glad the blog helped. I have yet to hit orchid but I want to. So what hotel is it u stayed at that you are afraid to take a pull back to? just curious.look forward to the other parts and hope to see u in bkk sometime.
Comment posted by smitty at 01.06.2008
ww – if only it were that simple. We are the new kids on the block so we have to tread lightly. Sounds like a good idea but would probably piss the other folks on the soi off. We are talking to people about putting a big sign so people on soi 4 can see it. the street sign is a GREAT idea but not sure yet how we can pull it off.
Comment posted by smitty at 28.05.2008
art – the little old lady is next door to us. We chat with her regularly now.
Not sure what hotel u stay at but there is a new hotel being built right across from us so suddenly lots of development going on. Big mango obviously setting the pace.
Comment posted by smitty at 28.05.2008
in – searched for the new spot?
soi 4 – small soi across from the 7/11 that sits under sin bar
down the soi and look left – the only spot that would like a bar.
Comment posted by smitty at 27.05.2008
bkkkris -Nice comments. It is different and so hard to describe but u do a nice job of it. A reader sent this in and I will post it here – it adds to all this a bit:
On a backlash from some of the negative comments on thai girls, I wanted to say something I witnessed a few years back at Don Maueng Airport – Pause,
oh the memories – back to the story. I was sat outside smoking prior to departing LOS. A minute later a stunning thai girl came and sat near me with her disabled farang boyfriend. He was severley disabled, not able to talk proper, strapped into a wheelchair. My first thought was how beautiful she was! The next thing I noticed was how many farang were looking at the same scenario, but sniggering or tutting their dissaproval. Her farang boyfriend was obviously happy and was trying to talk to her in the best way he could. Bear in mind his best speech was close to grunting. But what really struck me was how intently she was listening to her boyfriend and how caring she was being with him, wiping his mouth and generally caring for him which Florence Nightingale would of been proud. I wondered how her boyfriend had got here taking into account his disabilities and right on cue another young farang and his thai girl appeared. All hell broke looose as the disabled guy saw his friend and the four were all together like long lost friends catching up etc. Okay, my point in this is yes, hookers, paid for blah blah blah, but tell me a UK hooker who would of behaved in this way?
Comment posted by smitty at 24.05.2008
p – true to a point but I dont think what we are saying is the girl in the go-go is not a whore or prostitute but there are some gray areas.
I think they have been brought up a few times.
I meet a girl out. I pay for drinks. Dinner after clubbing. She comes back to my place. we get it on. Hell – let’s even say I give her cab money cause I live in lower suk and she lives in bang na and the trains are done and over with.
some people will say she is a whore. a prostitute.
That I don’t get.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.05.2008
milo – i totally agree. based on some people’s comments here my ex wife is a whore, my ex gf in hk who used to live with me who was not working for a while is and every time I take my girl to lunch makes her one too. utter BS
The word is overused and what should guys, even myself, be called for partaking. something worse?
The reality is life is a little different here and is tough to explain.
Comment posted by smitty at 20.05.2008
suk – what do you mean by something wrong? not sure I get u there.
I think the harder discussion to have is how do you explain or quantify the grayer areas of a tx where guys are paying for things and girls are offering their company and sometimes sex.
I think in any situation where this happens – branding the girl a whore or a prostitute seems a bit much to me.
So I take my gf out for dinner and drinks and later we sleep together – is she a whore?
I meet a girl on RCA – an office girl. Yes – there are some there. The, no good girls go out cliche is pretty tiring. So I offer this girl a drink. We party together. Many drinks. Maybe even dinner after hours. Then my pad, even her room and we end up having sex. She is whore?
Seems weird folks. Now put that girl in the MP selling her ass and she is whore – but is that the situation or the process?
I always wanted to write about this but not sure how to take it but this simple classification seems too general and does that mean any guy who engages in this is a low life or doing something wrong?
all gets pretty deep really.
Comment posted by smitty at 18.05.2008
r – I think it is a little harsh and I don’t think the precentage is that high. I also know a lot of girls with tats who never worked like that. That is not the barometer in my opinion.
I also think things are blurry when it comes to all of this bringing in the sponsor notion of it all. All very gray indeed so tough to make a call I guess.
Interesting stuff.
Comment posted by smitty at 17.05.2008
spyker – nice av.
Comment posted by smitty at 15.05.2008
gl – what a sec? Are u starting some shit saying we are not going to get open as planned?
Comment posted by smitty at 15.05.2008
Ancient profession by On Nutter
yes – the coyote 2 for 1 is amazing. Only reason to go there but reason enough. I go for the pitchers – seems the better deal. I have yet to go on ladies night when they are giving away free margaritas to ladies. margaritas get people drunk – quickly.pe – where is this other place that has the margaritas? I need to know. thx
ww – they are dangerous. esp if u start early on them!
Comment posted by smitty at 09.05.2008
will check the vid
in 99 I went to the cabo wabo new year’s eve party
paid for the all u can drink option
woke up at like 4 in the afternoon the next day
face down on a beach. no shirt. sunburned and about 45 mins away from where I started the night before
evil
Comment posted by smitty at 07.05.2008
julio is nice stuff. thats the nice thing. u can sip. a lot of folks think tequila is only for slamming.
on the rocks. no salt. lime, tequila and cointreau.
Comment posted by smitty at 05.05.2008
margaritas are awesome if made well and with the right stuff. I don’t ever consider them a ladies drink. Good tequila straight it also awesome.
I think these guys are referring to the happy hour specials at coyotes. Buy one get one free. get one pitcher and drink another. awesome.
Comment posted by smitty at 05.05.2008
A guide to Bangkok Nightlife part 7 of Many! by mbkknowsp4p
Asad – can you tell me what positions u used during these trysts? I am wondering if that has any affect on price versus performance? thx
Comment posted by smitty at 03.05.2008
n – I was thinking. wow – this is off topic and then I am like – jesus I am lame. There it is in the post.I think he is good but not amazing. I have yet to find amazing in THailand and always wondering what other people think. I never use people to dream up tattoos since i know what I want. He does what I want but one of the deigns we worked on together looked better on paper than my leg. such is life.
Comment posted by ssb at 28.04.2008
so folks – Let’s step back and talk about miss sukarn for a minute.She or he has had nothing rational to say at all.
She seems to think anything written by farangs about Thailand is bad. Whatever. Funny – a very famous book written by a young Thai about Thailand also talks about hookers and bargirls and Thai men using prostitutes. Oh my. Must be trash then. A lot of Thai women always have a hard time when things are written about Thailand that might discuss bar girls and stuff.
jake’s books are not even in that category though. As for John Grishman – sure he is a huge author but I find most of his books to be boring, cookie cutter and written for small town america. Give me a break.
But to cut to the point. Let’s talk about how technically inept Miss Sukarn is.
10:59 am miss sukarn’s first comment
11:00 am miss sukarn’s second comment
then this comment at 11:11 am:
I read this and agree everything with Miss Sukarn.
Before, he says the Sopranos will be making this to be a movie.
But never happen!!
How can you compare this to John Grisham? John Grisham does not even know him.
also by miss sakarn using her some email and same IP address to pump up her own comments.
miss sukarn. go away please
get a life
keep it up and I will put your IP and email on the blog for everyone to see and spam.
cheers
Comment posted by smitty at 17.04.2008
s – this was never put on utube. only google video. I don’t own it so I can’t control what is done with.
Comment posted by smitty at 07.04.2008
My mother and the Indian newbie by On Nutter
nutter – I think u hit the nail on the head. the taxi wonks will try it all the time. I think locals and experienced people walk with an air and the confidence that they won’t stand for it but I think tourists are first timers are getting scammed all the time on this. even in the official line . If they were not why would these guys try it so much?
Comment posted by smitty at 27.03.2008
c – my parents did not know that bkk had either sukhumvit or silom road when they spent time with me here.
Comment posted by smitty at 27.03.2008
the reality is many times they will try to get away with not using it. I have about every other time noticed he does not start it and is waiting to see what I do. If I notice it they almost always turn it on. However this is the bullshit one would not expect out of the metered line and that the unsuspecting tourists could do without.
Comment posted by smitty at 27.03.2008
c – u da man.i totally agree with u on this one but more importantly you win the award for the commenting on an old post that had no comments.
nice one. no prizes for this award but u still won it
Comment posted by ssb at 19.03.2008
kw – Akane is a good spot indeed but I have found that very few of the girls there give a proper nut suck rub. could be more or maybe I am not picking them right.
Comment posted by ssb at 12.03.2008
Getting out of dodge :: Rayong
hl -http://www.bigmangobar.com/reader-submissions/2008/02/06/pablo-on-udon/
Comment posted by smitty at 06.03.2008
rayong – renting the bike was simple. give them an ID card and they gave me the bike. No money down.
p – I did not see the nightlife in rayong so I can’t tell you but I don’t much care for the hua hin nightlife so I would gamble on rayong myself. beaches are nicer as well.
pe – you da man, I smell another trip…
Comment posted by smitty at 05.03.2008
pe – u get the trian from bkk or from rayong?
would love if u gave the details since this sounds awesome.
thx
Comment posted by smitty at 04.03.2008
I used to go to hua hin 5 years ago and loved it but it is overbuilt now for the most part. Rayong was cool. I think parts of Samet are pretty cool as well.
The thing I liked about the outskirts of Rayong was how quiet and laid back it was. Unlike in Huan – the road separates the beach from the buildings. U can’t build on the beach side. So there is nothing built right next to the beach.
I think the nightlife is small but looks like it might be fun. I plan a return to stay in the city to party at night but lounge on the beach during the day. Can’t be too bad…
Comment posted by smitty at 04.03.2008
cl – the term u are looking for is freebird.we coined it on the blog a long way back
Comment posted by smitty at 27.02.2008
mart – great point.
Even in yesman’s comment he says the magic words:
They both had flings with non- hookers in phuket. There is a breed of non-working thai women that come to phuket looking for western boyfriends.
meaning the guys purported to be looking for gf’s or giving all the lines they needed to get sex so as not to pay for it. I am not saying everyone should pay or that there is not free sex but generally when guys roll into Thailand and don’t speak Thai – they have given the girl quite a song and dance to get into her pants.
I have always told guys it is probably better to pay for it knowing you are not hurting anyone since the p4p girls understand the tx. I hear so many girls talk about the guy they thought was into them and who was going to email them and write and so on but who never talked to them again. Sure this Thai girl was dumb and opened her legs knowing that she had that to offer but not realizing that she was being duped. The guys who pull this off are thinking they are better than the guys paying for it but I don’t think so. I think it is worse since they are deceiving people to get sex.
THis is not to say there is not free hook ups and so on but generally the fresh off the boat types not wanting to pay who get free hook ups are saying a lot of BS to get the free hook ups.
Comment posted by smitty at 26.02.2008
cheap – U make some interesting points. Might I suggest rather than labeling the current content boring – that you offer up your first reader submission. Might be the best way to open up the discussions you would enjoy more.
I am an equal opportunity player – dark/white/tan. That’s what I love about this place. Some of my best Coyote club pulls are the less white girls the rich Thais shun. These girls are begging for attention.
I also think the other thing not much talked about on the blog – or any of them is the fact that some Thai girls are not against some form of open relationship – especially the ones into other girls. The are many ways to skin a cat in this town.
Comment posted by smitty at 25.02.2008
UAE (Dubai, Abu Dhabi) by mbkknowsp4p
brian – good to have u aboard but we need to clear something up.I am American – zero parts of me are British.
Thanks. Glad we got that out of the way.
Comment posted by smitty at 24.02.2008
I always found that the guys struggling with things the most were the execs who still lived in America/England with their wives and kids but who made frequent trips to Asia or any other part of the world with p4p action or say a cheaper lifestyle. They had it the worse since they would go nut while on a trip but over subsequent trips they would have gf’s or almost second wives while trying to pretend that once they went home none of it existed. Those guys probably pretend to hold it together longer but end up crashing in a much bigger way.Bollocks to all of it. I am building a harem.
Comment posted by smitty at 24.02.2008
A different slant on the ladyboy question by Werewolf
yp – only pictures if the girl is okay with it.
Comment posted by smitty at 22.02.2008
yp – Did I miss something but don’t recall seeing submission #1
Comment posted by smitty at 21.02.2008
m – I was only commenting on places I have been.
india has them too but they are not even close to being hot.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.02.2008
m – my take on it is pretty simple. Thailand is the perfect petri dish for the makings of ladyboys with the Buddhism, the sex industry, and the general attitude towards life – but the discerning factor is that many of the men seem to look better as women. I don’t think that is the case with the other countries you mention. Indonesia and the Philippines also have a lot of ladyboys and those are the only other countries that have hot ladyboys besides Thailand.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.02.2008
Forte rocking, Tapas is a goldmine and yes – the search is still on!
ww – I think I may not talk about everywhere I go.
Comment posted by smitty at 19.02.2008
I would say Stick is a follower here and not a leader.
pmmp first covered pegasus here on oct. 12 2006:
http://www.bigmangobar.com/after-hours/2006/10/12/mango-weekly-08-october-2006/
mochalover did a big coyote/gclub wrtie up on dec. 17 2006:
http://www.bigmangobar.com/reader-submissions/2006/12/17/mochalovers-words-of-wisdom/
I would also say pegasus is a very poor example of the member/g club scene given its age, how expensive it is and how it is still a sukhumvit like joint.
Comment posted by smitty at 18.02.2008
b – I consider anything north of LA norcal.
ah fresno. not much redeeming there these days is there?
I saw cut out the middle man – send the money directly to me along with her phone and I will hand deliver for u. no extra charge. same but different.
groovemonkey is special.
Comment posted by smitty at 17.02.2008
bkkris – welcome aboard.
yes – a special place that norcal area.
Comment posted by smitty at 17.02.2008
cranial – u hit the nail on the head. It is the variety that makes it all fun. Newbies love these places and so do business contacts. It is a scene they have never seen before and they appreciate the quality, service and customer difference.Like Phoenix says – check a few out and make an informed decision based on what places gives u the best vibe. happy hunting.
Comment posted by smitty at 15.02.2008
ww – that is the beauty – it is all here. I would say I am not getting as much as people must think because I spend a lot on the chase for items I usually do not land but that is fun too. It is all good – isn’t that the point?
Comment posted by smitty at 14.02.2008
my point is – in case it was lost on people is I like it ALL and appreciate the differences. I can go from a short time in nana to the pent. All good. I comment on this thread because some people are saying that there is only the lower suk or p4p scene an nothing else. I just can’t see it that way.
My only takeaway is here I need to get to Tawarwadee.
Comment posted by smitty at 13.02.2008
t man – we do the best we can on our thai wages but I can say that life here is not too bad. I am one for hitting on all cylinders so to speak and bkk makes that very possible.
dw – sick man
Comment posted by smitty at 13.02.2008
I think people need to gain a little perspective on some of this. If u have been in Thailand and want cheap and easy – don’t go to g-clubs. Nothing worse than when guys roll in and think they are going to score one of these hotties and don’t. People all seem to think there is only way thing in Thailand – find girl. Screw girl. Make sure u paid the least for said endeavors. I just think that is not the only thing to do in Thailand.
Ever gone to a bar or club just to hang with your mates? I do. Now make that bar or club a member joint and ram it with sexy girls who are on display for you. Girls that u can gaze at the whole time without doing more than drinking your own booze that you already paid for that costs no more than opening a bottle anywhere else. U get good service as well.
That is a g-club for me. If you want the massage girl who has already had sex 3 times that day and u think that compares to a coyote girl who probably has not had any all week then making this case is pointless.
Weird thing is any self respecting guy I take to a g-club who has has seen most of what Thailand has to offer appreciates the difference and understands that it is not the same as the go-go. God knows we can all hit the go-go later and pick a number and go home. What I think is funny is when guys think that picking the hottie in the go-go is some form of a skill. We all know anyone can get laid at the go-go. Or the massage parlor. Or sukhumvit. For me – that just gets a little boring but yes I like knowing I always can.
SO the g-clubs are another outlet. I have met some beautiful non-jaded young girls who are not virgins but do not lay on their back everyday for money. They don’t have to. Some will, some won’t but many offer a great time in getting to know them. I have had some fun dates. Been to places I never knew existed and have gotten laid without paying them for it.
I always find the harshest critics of the g-clubs are the ones who have never been. Interesting. I have pretty much done it all in bkk and I like the g-clubs. Yes – u can blow a lot of money but one does not have to in order to have a good time. My booze usually lasts my entire member year for the record.
My take on this post is that sherbet looks pretty boring but this is not how I see all the g-clubs.
Comment posted by smitty at 13.02.2008
s – sucks to be u. nice.
Comment posted by smitty at 11.02.2008
s – u did not see any FLs? that would be free lancers – so who was it you were hooking up with?
Comment posted by smitty at 10.02.2008
Working for a Living by Werewolf
c – it really is not a bribe. It is just a part of the monthly expenses. I won’t get into details here but generally u setup before hand what u will be paying. As long as u are truly licenses, legal and paying taxes – it is hard for them to extact too much unless you are doing something not normal. Nudity, on site action and so on. In some cases you hear of places getting more attention as they get busier but providing you have your ducks organized you can defend against it pretty well. So in short – I don’t think police are the issue for the most part.
Comment posted by smitty at 09.02.2008
Living the dream…
Comment posted by smitty at 07.02.2008
in general I think you just have to be aware of the situation and the girls to make these decisions. When I go to a few of the fish bowls I like – I tend to develop a relationship with the papasan. Overtime they will tell u who is new in the fishbowl, how often a sideliner comes and so on. I won’t just take the basic response to she is new or she is not. Generally a papasan u get to know won’t steer u wrong because he wants your repeat business and tips.as for udon – in general I would expect it all to be cheaper. One would hope anyway. However I would be prepared to pay more than the going rates for a fresh experience. That is just the way I am.
Comment posted by smitty at 07.02.2008
m – I was questioning the prices as well. I would say though that I would probably pay more for a FL uni girl, who really was a FL uni girl, if she was pretty good looking. She may not be a pro but the freshness, change of pace and hopefully the fun of it all would be worth the extra coin. Kind of like a sideliner at a massage joint costing more than the girls behind the glass. There is some sense to it.
Comment posted by smitty at 07.02.2008
all – Is the sky club in this same area? Just curious.Seems like a fun place to check out. I imagine there must be some after hours action in the area.
There are a few of these companies in town that manage PR and Coyote girls for some of the smaller clubs. Seems to be a trend. Kind of cool – more variety and u won’t feel bad as u work your way through the girls in the club.
May take on the drink thing is that it is wrong if it is a bait and switch. To be clear – u are buying the drink so the girl makes money. 250 is pretty standard for a ladydrink at a coyote or member club. However what sucks at these places is they don’t have a 2 tier pricing system. At the Mango we had different prices for ladydrinks based on whether there was alcohol in them. Cheaper drinks obviously. did not have alcohol. These coyote places don’t have that so the girl is trying to do her job without getting smashed. I get that but they should fix the system so the bait and switch does not happen.
Then it would not seem like they were doing something wrong.
Metro has lost their long time manager and I have heard of issues. Bummer. Was a great bar last time I checked in there.
Comment posted by smitty at 06.02.2008
ww – thanks for the write-up. I need to check this place for sure. Some questions:
Is there a soi number?
What is Mem Hip?
Ladydrinks are 250 baht?
Is there a barifine – I assume not. Just curious.
Any sense that these girls are in p4p, looking for boyfriends or would meet outside the club?
all good stuff…
Comment posted by smitty at 05.02.2008
Forte rocking, Tapas is a goldmine and yes – the search is still on!
heckler – trip report please.
Comment posted by smitty at 05.02.2008
In Defence of the C Team by Arthur
I am older…
Comment posted by smitty at 04.02.2008
Forte rocking, Tapas is a goldmine and yes – the search is still on!
anon – I don’t know what the latest is but this article talks about it almost being canceled.http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=5505
Comment posted by smitty at 04.02.2008
I think cobra gold is canceled this year or scaled down so not sure what this was. Maybe the US is preparing to invade North Korea.
Comment posted by smitty at 04.02.2008
rj – a long time(30+ years) bkk expat reckons that the surge in LBs began when the CP group started using hormones in the chicken. There u go…
Comment posted by smitty at 04.02.2008
ladyboys are a huge fascination indeed. what I don’t understand is people in the forum flaming the blog and the messenger for someone like on nutter writing up a personal interview that was in no way negative to the LB or LB customers. It was just a simple interview and very interesting for people who have no idea about the scene. I think they could have tried harder to see it for what it was and offer some constructive responses or even offer up a better view – if there is one according to them.
They way they respond makes the group look like the strange fanatical faction that it is furthering a stigma that probably would not exist otherwise.
Comment posted by smitty at 03.02.2008
p – a proper ball massage is not a wank. try it sometime.
Comment posted by ssb at 03.02.2008
Forte rocking, Tapas is a goldmine and yes – the search is still on!
h – we need proper trip report with bar names.make it happen.
don’t let us down.
I know u have nothing better to do.
Comment posted by smitty at 03.02.2008
here is one for u on nutter:http://friskodude.blogspot.com/2008/02/thailand-interview-with-thai-ladyboy.html
Comment posted by smitty at 02.02.2008
o – I totally agree with u. I wanted to highlight the forums because my belief is that there overzealous attitude about it all contributes further to the negative views of LBs and the guys who like LBs. They seem to assume that we should understand how they feel and that we should all share their same views. So when we try as novices to understand it we get shot down for trying. I would have done exactly what u did. I think your article was not negative at all.
We shall see if anyone of them can manage to write a retort or just complain about it all.
Comment posted by smitty at 02.02.2008
p – I wait with baited breath for your reader submission…
Comment posted by smitty at 01.02.2008
Forte rocking, Tapas is a goldmine and yes – the search is still on!
h – where are u picking up the freelancers?
Comment posted by smitty at 01.02.2008
powers – agreed but I think it is a nice change of pace and holds some opportunity. Maybe my goldmine statement is a sensationalist blog title.
kotter – whatever dude.
Comment posted by smitty at 29.01.2008
forgot to add – last night I hit beach, what’s up, carousel, happy, peppermint, living dolls, catz, club boesche and some freelancer joints. more tonight and some write ups later.
Comment posted by smitty at 28.01.2008
mm – spend it all baby. I am just bummed you don’t call me to help u. carve out 50k for me and a night at resort.
Comment posted by smitty at 28.01.2008
The Sky Club – A Coyote bar by bkk22
cp – I share your affliction. I am going to get to sky soon and get the GPS and pics and will post some solid directions as well. so much to do.
Comment posted by smitty at 28.01.2008
Forte rocking, Tapas is a goldmine and yes – the search is still on!
bd – it does suck. no one should goex uk – u can’t play
ts – that is what i love about bkk. it is all here in one city on any given night. kills me.
dw – it happens. I won’t hold it against. having lived your life in the UK and now suddenly surrounded by all this beauty – buffoonery happens.
gm – wait – I thought I was describing fresno with this?
ugly girls looking to get laid
Comment posted by smitty at 28.01.2008
Closing this post to comments.You can carry the thread over on the forum.
http://www.bigmangobar.com/sf-forum?forum=5&topic=5&page=1
thanks
Comment posted by smitty at 15.01.2008
btw – tried limoncello on soi 11. not bad but not amazing. FYI – it is the same owner as pizza zannottis.
Comment posted by smitty at 11.01.2008
The Sky Club – A Coyote bar by bkk22
my mom – u can’t be my mom cause if you were you would have flown to thailand by now to kill me and you would not have time to comment. anyway – i borrow money from the girls.you bring up some good points. One is we should start an amazon virtual store for hookah supplies. my bargirl baseball trading card idea is better than a zoo.
Comment posted by smitty at 08.01.2008
that is the one. there are a few other classic lines but that is the main section. thanks!
Comment posted by smitty at 07.01.2008
I was baffled how this thread about the walking street video got turned into this LB discussion. I think its cool BTW but was curious.
I guess it was DW saying this to Penfold:
Penfold…. you have to watch those LB Pick-pockets.
Anyway. great topic. I have always said I could easily see myself with a cut LB. I have made out with a few attractive ones that fit that bill. No drama. However I can’t seem to come to grasp with being with one who has similar anatomy to me. Just is what it is.
It is a grey area. It is interesting because of that. I was going to quote it but I don’t have the book on me. However there is a great paragraph in Private Dancer where one of the guys goes into a rant about how people evolve past the bargirls and go for the LBs. I thought it was interesting. As is this topic. Maybe I need some evolving.
no bashing please.
Comment posted by smitty at 07.01.2008
works for me. ~h – google is no longer really doing anything with google video now that they have youtube so this is probably something that cab be moved onto youtube. let me know.
Comment posted by smitty at 01.01.2008
not a lot of viet chicks. not like they used to have. tons of cambo chicks but that should be obvious.the thais there are not as hot as the thais here.
yes they have LB bars so have at it!
Comment posted by smitty at 31.12.2007
I think there are some massage parlors for sure but I have never been. They are nothing like the bkk ones and I don’t think they are soapies. Nor do they appear to be as farang friendly as they are in bkk. DJ, if he is reading, will know more.
Comment posted by smitty at 31.12.2007
n – not sure. I have been to the massage joints in HK but never sw anything like a soapie. maybe someone will chime in from HK to correct me.
Comment posted by smitty at 31.12.2007
dj – true enough but I just don’t dig the karaoke joints. not one bit. however some people like that scene. I have my hands full trying to find all the soapies. have fun in PP. hope u can send in a bar update for the blog. much appreciated.
gm – and to u. stateside probably in the summer. we shall see. party safe. love and kisses.
p – http://www.bigmangobar.com/reader-submissions/
Comment posted by smitty at 31.12.2007
Knight in Shining Armor Syndrome by pmmp
pe – I got it but it is actually pmmp who said it.The riddle grows…
Comment posted by smitty at 30.12.2007
dw – for everyone’s safety u should stop reckoning.
pe – that shit is funny.
“I get my bacon from the butcher, thank you very much.” ouch.
Comment posted by smitty at 30.12.2007
h – I will mail some soapy action. u send over the cool weather.nic – thanks for the info. I was trying to find out once but I am not sure what the soapy license but I am sure like a go-go – they are not making new ones. b course. That is what I heard as well. they kept spelling it in Thai and I was looking for the word and realized what they were saying. Interesting. I have heard about but not been to the soapy in japan but I have never seen them in HK. Just massage parlors.
jd – they don’t have any real outdoor furniture. fashion island was fun though. rammed with hotties. similar to an outing at the mall bang kapi but they see even less farang at fashion island.
gm – just think slip and slide but with naked chicks.
Comment posted by smitty at 30.12.2007
p – u mean building a pizza joint? If so – for sure don’t want to be in the restaurant biz but thanks.
Comment posted by smitty at 27.12.2007
MRT Madness and can I borrow a 100 baht?
this brussels sprout thing is a bigger deal than we all let on.from the F times:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/62446302-b1c3-11dc-9777-0000779fd2ac.html
Extreme weather has hit the supply of other seasonal fare, such as Brussels sprouts, with prices rising 7 per cent on the year.
Comment posted by smitty at 26.12.2007
u are all too kind. frankly I am pretty lame compared to a few operators I have noticed in the past. These coyote girls in particular – especially if you don’t try and pick the super hot ones are just looking for some friends and to have a good time. Sure – I met them at the club. I have bought some drinks but then generally after that I see them out or go to dinner with them or the movies. Yes – I bought dinner and a movie. Big deal. Cheaper than a barfine. Sure some of them are looking for a boyfriend and will try hard to get u. Wow. Sucks to be chased by a gorgeous girl. Others though are not looking for the boyfriend because they are in work mode and want to make their own money. However they would not mind seeing a guy that is not a customer, not asian and is not who they see in their club every night. Honestly my score ratio is quite low compared to some others I know but it is out there boys.
It is all a delicate dance really since I don’t want a gf — have one of those already – and I am looking for the type who know the score and liek Orion says – aren’t texting me every 10 minutes. So given this – yes I turn a few down and you can’t try to work the whole club either. That does not go over well. So choose carefully and give it some time but I think it does pay off.
msb – a joke is exactly how I find it all.
Comment posted by smitty at 26.12.2007
msb – very little and it was not the pent. people seem to be jaded to that fact that there are free shags in bkk. these coyote girls are making some coin and believe me it aint all coming from me. this is my 3rd coyote girl free shag. one of the girls I am not even a member of her club and have bought her drinks only the one time I saw her at her club. have not been back to her club since and she still calls.
msb – makes sense then but I think the MRT pseudo security is probably worse than none at all.
pe – touching.
Comment posted by smitty at 26.12.2007
ts – I think ww is referring to orion telling me to stop paying for FL.
I will evolve…
Comment posted by smitty at 25.12.2007
jd – my bad. U got me. I was actually carrying a massive strap on with internal vibrator and a huge wal-mart belt buckle. I get so hot when being banged from behind by the little thai girls. When I turn around and see the belt buckle and think of home I usually peak. Anyway. It set the MRT scanners off and I just could not open that thing up in front of the yams.
fd – thx. We returned the favor.
oah – it would so get through. I have a buddy who carries a business card that shows he works at the enbassy. one night we were riding his motorbike from nana to cowboy. already hammered. we go nicked. We should the card. I said we work security for the british embassy. the cop smiled. Then said we were cops. Just like him. Waved us on. More fiction for u JD!
pe – nice. That and a neck pillow for when I go to baccara would be perfect.
h – walk home? No. That is why I grabbed the 100 baht. I grabed a taxi from Ratchada.
bbk – I guess I did not want to find my optimal price. The 100 would get me home. My primary goal really but I had thought of seeing if she would have bought lunch.
Comment posted by smitty at 25.12.2007
Polymorphous Light Eruption (PLE) by pmmp
shit. u guys are killing me.I can almost picture it all exactly – something I have never experienced but what the swede was always trying to convey.
brilliant.
Comment posted by smitty at 23.12.2007
I must say – I need that little stroll around the house with the tg naked. It is half of the event for me. So the covering up has to go.
Peeps are saying 7/1 will be open tonight an serving but only until 12.
Cowboy had a hard stop last night at 1:50 with tightie boys in brown cruising the soi with lights on to really drive the point home.
Memeber clubs closed tonight but I think all the other areas open but not serving. Strange times.
Comment posted by smitty at 22.12.2007
ts – I am not even remotely interested in the coffee now.more photo info… damn.
Comment posted by ssb at 16.12.2007
awesome folks. I gotta get trying some pizza here soon.thx
Comment posted by smitty at 15.12.2007
hey all – thanks for the tips.
big mamas is okay but nothing amazing. I would say the dishes and pasta are better.
Comment posted by smitty at 13.12.2007
Asian Godfathers and America’s war on drugs
e – how are the lampang hottiess?I think his son has pretty much blew it all the way around so far.
will check out the book – thanks for the heads up
Comment posted by smitty at 13.12.2007
The Peep Inn 2 :: Short Time Hotel :: Bangkok
ww – the themed rooms did not have them but the party room did and I think the normal rooms do. I need to check the zoo animal rooms sometime and fulfill my uni on a skytrain fantasy.
Comment posted by smitty at 08.12.2007
Back to the Grind part 2 (Titanium and researching the Buriram connection) by Phoenix
p – correct. same guy but he sold out 22 to pay the bills in pattaya.
Comment posted by smitty at 08.12.2007
Knight in Shining Armor Syndrome by pmmp
m – not saying some are not there but not everyone on those floors is. Like – i said, ask to see them in the mag. I think u will find some hotties on these floors and the sideline girls. i was just saying a real model would not be that easy to bag.
Comment posted by smitty at 07.12.2007
Back to the Grind part 2 (Titanium and researching the Buriram connection) by Phoenix
p – I don’t think this place caters to the japanese at all given they don’t really like loud music and vodka shots. The original owner thought a high-end beer bar concept with the vodka room was going to take off. it never did. neither has his vodka bar in pattaya.
Comment posted by smitty at 07.12.2007
Knight in Shining Armor Syndrome by pmmp
most have never been in penthouseor they have been in one group shoot or have tested for them
I know the dude who manages them for parties
once again – a real model is not for sale and would not jeopardize her career like that
however there are some cuties around in the models and sideline areas
Comment posted by smitty at 07.12.2007
Back to the Grind part 2 (Titanium and researching the Buriram connection) by Phoenix
ph – nice write up. hope we get some good info out of u for phukett. I used to like Titanium but I was not sure why. Maybe I thought the girls were different and I enjoyed the drinks but I get tired if the band. Too loud I think. now though I can’t see why anyone would go there. I don’t mind taking a few people by for a few of the shots but we are usually in and out. sometimes a crawl from soi 33 then 22 and then cowboy. I think the prices for the drinks and the lady drinks are outrageous though especially for the 22 area. The girls think they are something different due to the dresses and prices but to me they have that some 33 attitude. The head to overhead ratio is to high given they are still issan girls but not in a gogo bar.Spice has been busy but I am not liking it much to be honest. I agree with u on the attitude for the girls. I think spicy is better for pulling.
I hit renovate on ratchada last night after the resort. will write it all up, good stuff!
many times we are at duke during the day but some nights as well. been busy with p4 and looking for mango 2.
Comment posted by smitty at 07.12.2007
Knight in Shining Armor Syndrome by pmmp
m – correct but I would say maybe 25% of the models floor is actually models. Then some small subset of that can actually show u their spread in a mag. I have hired the “penthouse” girls before and know their manager. most hanging on the models floor are want to be models needing to make money. A real model would not need to be there. Also the penthouse model thing is kind of a big scam in my opinion.Agreed that the models floor or the sideline girls is where to find the hotties but u may be letdown with the skills. I once saw a hottie at Victoria. She wanted 5000 baht – she was a budding VJ but needed to pay the bills.
At poseiden try to find the girls that can actually show u their pics in the mag – not just pics in a book.
Comment posted by smitty at 06.12.2007
t – I don’t think u can find real models who u can pay for sex. For the cuties that are the type and available I think the sideline girls at places like Victoria are awesome. I think u just have to go often enough and then get a number for the right girls.
they work in places like this to be discreet. Maybe there is some online way of finding them that I am not aware of.
Comment posted by smitty at 05.12.2007
Back to the Grind part 1 by Phoenix
rrr – good points but I think u are being a little harsh. I think the difference is in discussing the design and the way a place looks versus the layout or use of the space. Tunnel has to be the coolest looking place when it comes to the design but appreciated most when the lights are on. However the use of the space is terrible. Totally agree. I think the designer did not follow through to make sure things were laid out to use the space properly. Sad really – it could have been so much more. It was suppose to be a normal club anyway but they got relegated to be late night only.ts – very similar to the way it works in VN as well – but not as expensive.
dj – u should write up a post on it. good points.
Comment posted by smitty at 05.12.2007
Where’s the rubber? by Werewolf
p – I get u. use was a has word. I am lucky. She is one of those girls who does not want a bf, likes her g club gig and is saving her money. So once in a while she comes around to catch up. Does not call much – does not like me calling but it works. I can’t complain.
Comment posted by smitty at 05.12.2007
Penang nightlife – or lack thereof…
sam – we have business reasons for going – so no choice really.malaysia and Philippines are about the same for me.
Comment posted by smitty at 04.12.2007
Back to the Grind part 1 by Phoenix
great post phoeniz – I think we were the other farangs u saw last night at pent. we did 3/4 of our jack bottle and had a freaking blast. I bagged another number using a new technique that is growing on me.H – I need to hit Khao san some more. I here good stories and I think the place is attracting hipper thais as well. Must be plenty for the taking.
all – u hold to what u are willing to pay. End of story really. I have broken my rules a few times if she is really hot but I tell her hot or not – if she starfishes I am paying the usual rates.
Comment posted by smitty at 04.12.2007
Where’s the rubber? by Werewolf
p – if u are asking do I mean being used by a cute member club girl – the answer is no – not at all.yr – looks like I will get a roller and see how she reacts to it.
Comment posted by smitty at 04.12.2007
r – shameless plug for the alternative venue until we re-open the mango:
http://www.dukepub.com/
Comment posted by smitty at 03.12.2007
Asian Godfathers and America’s war on drugs
OAH – I have always known it as a mom I would like to fuck.my friend in school had some milf’s.
either way america is uptight
Comment posted by smitty at 03.12.2007
Where’s the rubber? by Werewolf
r – u can try our friend sean here: http://www.bangkok-properties.com/generally the agents though won’t help u if u are looking at places that rent for less than 10k.
my suggestion is u just walk the sois u like and pop into the buildings u might like and ask to see a room. use cash , dress nice and have copies of your passport handy. Should not be a problem.
Comment posted by smitty at 03.12.2007
Asian Godfathers and America’s war on drugs
Saw this on CNN today:http://www.wsbtv.com/news/14748793/detail.html
pretty sad how uptight America is getting.
Comment posted by smitty at 03.12.2007
Where’s the rubber? by Werewolf
o – totally agree. Actually i only take them to my room when i have already met them in some venue or another – otherwise their room or ST only. Over time though u get some regulars but u don’t want them always coming over. So the option for the separate apartment would be nice.U r sicker than me for using the car. Enuff said.
i can’t afford a 2 bedroom apartment so there.
#1 has her own apartment – makes it much easier.
orion – u need to write orion’s guide to how to manage a harem. sounds like u have some nice pointers.
Comment posted by smitty at 03.12.2007
petey – great points. I also find some of the hi-so or member club girls play that same game. Lunch here, buy me this and okay now I will go home with u. They all have that price but want to feel better about themselves for how they reach it.
I love the member club girls that are really rolling in it from soaking a few suckers that when they go out to party they make a point of buying the bottle, dinner and use condoms from their own purse for banging me. U can tell they get some sense of empowerment from the process. I wonder if I am being used?
Comment posted by smitty at 03.12.2007
Asian Godfathers and America’s war on drugs
jb – great points. I thought the RS article was spot on. Amazes me how administration to administration the war completely shifts and spend money in another direction like the wind changes direction. The amount of waste created to fight the war on drugs must be astonishing.
Comment posted by smitty at 03.12.2007
Room service in Phnom Penh by On Nutter
2 bob – nice handle. great to see some new faces on the blog.where the hell is sophies? I missed that one.
Comment posted by smitty at 03.12.2007
Soi Polo but it’s not on Polo fried chicken
dj – thanks for the update. I don’t get why the hollywood bars are so empty. I know the coyote one is just lame but the other one is okay. good shows, some hotties and fun service girls. For some reason it may just the 3rd floor curse really given the only happening bar on the 3rd floor is the ladyboy bar.
Comment posted by smitty at 03.12.2007
Where’s the rubber? by Werewolf
damn. glad we all made up but still don’t have clarity on the word.yr – if u plan on keeping a regular or a girl at home then the ST hotel or “her” pad is the best. I have been suggesting the let’s go to your pad more and if they stay alone it seems to work. Most assume you would not want to go to their pad. I don’t mind at all. Only problem was one time I was coming out the elevator and I ran into another guy who was in the building but had just moved in. She actually asked if I wanted to come up but I was not sure which floor she was on and figured it a little dangerous.
The problem with the ST thing is sometimes the normal uni pulls or g-club girls don’t go for it. I think the solution to this is u get a few of your mates to all share a side-salad shagging pad. I am considering this eventually.
If u must do them at home – get one of those hair roller pick up sticky things at care4. Just make sure your regular does not notice u have one.
the shit we go through…
Comment posted by smitty at 03.12.2007
She never needs to move in – Bkk apartments are so cheap.
Comment posted by smitty at 02.12.2007
Asian Godfathers and America’s war on drugs
jd – your attention to detail is impressive.I heard on twitter that he attended the Sikorksy Christmas party which had an open bar. Seems fishy.
Comment posted by smitty at 02.12.2007
Where’s the rubber? by Werewolf
I was hoping one of my wordsmith/author buddies would chime on the word debate.I think there is more to the YR thing.
YR – if u want to keep this girl – BG or not I think u can’t really say u want to bang around unless u are talking about doing it with her. 3some like. If u just need some side salad now and then I would keep that discreet. Or at the very least make sure they have similar color hair of equal length. The hair usually busts me before anything else. Bkk being crammed with short time hotels is the easiest solution.
Comment posted by smitty at 02.12.2007
Trying to understand what we are arguing about here.
Is it that there is not a word analphabetical but there is a word analphabetic?
Given my futile grasp of the English language usually words can end in -al but if so are typically also found in the dictionary. analphabetic is in the dictionary but analphabetical is not. Even my spell checker does not like it.
I am not saying it is or it is not but just curious.
Comment posted by smitty at 02.12.2007
Soi Polo but it’s not on Polo fried chicken
nic – thanks. I had meant to put that in but mentioned the naming issue since some people look for the chicken joints on the polo numbered sois but they are on Sanam Khli. Thanks for bringing it up!
Comment posted by smitty at 02.12.2007
Where’s the rubber? by Werewolf
wow. so when my friends at home read this thread and once again claim that we are all sick bastards – I will just have to agree this time.
Comment posted by smitty at 01.12.2007
City of Angels, Asian Style by DJ
word on the street is the bbk to clark flights should start in March.
Comment posted by smitty at 30.11.2007
mark – I don’t mean I camp out in coffee world and dont buy anything. yes – I buy coffee there but I don’t need a card, I don’t need a password and so on. Same as mc d – just free and open wifi.Starbucks chooses what they want to do. I think they are very clued in technically – just look at the whole iphone deal in the states. So if they want to they could offer something different. They choose not to. So I don’t buy the I am a coffee guy I don’t know about networks excuse.
All your points are valid but I can say this. Myself and my friends who to come to bangkok would camp at starbucks cause they had wifi before many places. We dont even bother now cause there are so many options for free wifi. SO they lost my business and many of my friends. I think that effects them.
Edge is cool but 4baht an hour is still not free. If thailand had a real internet backbone then for sure edge would look slow but given how slow Thailand is in general I guess edge aint too bad.
I think starbucks is just plain expensive – import or not.
cool thread and thanks for chiming in.
Comment posted by ssb at 28.11.2007
Sherbet G-club and other tales by mbkknowsp4p
ts – pussy whipped or they just dont want to recall it all knowing how painful their current situation is in comparison.The gays get it.
I used to be in a building with a male neighbor from europe. He used to give me shit about the hours I kept not realizing I was running the bar and such. I think he assumed I was lazy and just partying all the time. One time in the lift he spouted off about it since he thought he was the hard-working guy. Not why he even cared but anyway.
I retorted with a subtle – okay I keep strange hours but your apartment has seen more little thai ass than mine ever has. So deal. This dude had visitor every night and I think I hardly ever saw repeats. The gays love it here.
Comment posted by smitty at 28.11.2007
mark – u make some valid points but on the 3rd party thing being an excuse – sorry. not buying it. same as ggg.Starbucks could choose to install a dsl line. put a wifi hub on it and turn it on. They choose to do a 3rd party solution. They choose to overcharge for it and make money on it. I know they are not a charity and I also know they probably don’t want people freloading on their net connection all day.
However I think it is great that the competitors to SB realize the opportunity to offer something like free wi-fi and therefore gain customers. Starbucks is not growing much anymore with same store sales. Seems they are only making money by opening new stores. I Wonder why.
SO I tend to go where my wifi is free. Coffee is not that big of a deal given starbucks coffee aint all that good. I hail from Berkeley area. Peets kills starbucks. I also go where the girls working are cute or the area is known to have some traffic in cute girls.
So the not having internet at home forces me out to where the free wifi is and the cute girls are.
Comment posted by ssb at 28.11.2007
Sherbet G-club and other tales by mbkknowsp4p
psi – agreed. things like the penthouse letters with fat white guys talking about the twin girls who deliver pizza hut who want to be deflowered side by side while being videotaped. That shit is made up.talk to pmmp. I used to go back to the US after trips to asia and tell stories, he always called bullshit on them. Now he knows. If one feels they need to make things up in bkk then they probably are not having a good time. No reason to make shit up in this town.
Comment posted by smitty at 28.11.2007
Knight in Shining Armor Syndrome by pmmp
auk – curling.
Comment posted by smitty at 28.11.2007
S. Botan – Cheapolay throws us a bone…
I think it either shows yourself when u are logged in or admins. All users here are the same and no users can post.
Comment posted by smitty at 27.11.2007
dj – nice avatar. I see the resemblance.
never been to CP 3 but CP 1 and 2 are getting long in the tooth. meaning I never see any hotties. there are still some cuties in botan.
is CP 3 near thonburi plaza?
Comment posted by smitty at 27.11.2007
sa – u may be right but it is probably not wise to jump on a site u are fresh to and start calling your fellow commenters suckers…
Comment posted by smitty at 27.11.2007
Pointers in Picking the Perfect Pole Hugger for Perpetuity by go go groupie
bitch.however the uni girls with braces come around quite well. They may not know how to do it well but they know how to be careful and they want to see if they can do the job. Seems to work better than lolitas at times.
Comment posted by smitty at 26.11.2007
co – that sucks. Why would she need to steal? Strange.
I guess the grass is always greener syndrome happens a lot in bkk. I can be out at siam paragon drooling over some hi-so honey thinking wow – life would be the bomb with this girl. Then I know I should wake up. She will be probably be high maintenance with a very bad ratio of head to overhead. Then again maybe not?
i guess we want it all really. That’s the problem. The diamond in the rough scenario seems to work for me most times. Head to overhead is low. Remember – pick one with not so much family or a family that works for a living. Seems to cure the – my family needs stuff mode. In fact some of the girls don’t want to give crap to their family cause they know they should not have to. Even better.
I think when they are young enough and not spoiled they adapt to things and realize life is better if they don’t call me all the time. Not asking questions when I say tonight I am out with the boys is better for everyone. I guess it is training to some extent but it can make for fairly good times.
Then again I saw this uni hottie today and we started chatting and well…
I guess it never really stops.
Comment posted by smitty at 26.11.2007
S. Botan – Cheapolay throws us a bone…
for me s. botan was much less about cheap and more about getting off the beaten farang path. Friendly service, no nonsense, no one begging for tips, no double pricing and so on. The 1k all in was a bonus. Soi 7 BG seems to attract not so hot girls for the most part. Sure. Cheap. Willing. Some say dirty but very rarely hot. My girl at Botan was pretty damn cute. The other problem I have is looking around some time at the other riff raff in the BG – not all but some.co – your avatar is really strange. nice work.
Comment posted by smitty at 26.11.2007
Dtuu yens, Peep Inn, pumpkin pie and Bar Bits
gg – I usually just tell them to leave and never come back to my table or I will pay the bill and go. I just can’t stand any of them anymore.
Comment posted by smitty at 26.11.2007
S. Botan – Cheapolay throws us a bone…
I am pretty sure the price just went up since 06 but everyone there pays 1k. What a great no nonsense joint is all I have to say.I do believe what this girl is saying is true – the underlying economy for the normal working class thais is not great right now. So makes sense some of them turn to this work. No different than the uni girls working the clubs some nights for extra cash.
I never dress up but oh well. I got my fro, my shorts, some t shirt and my tats. But I speak the lingo and I am polite so I get by. Like u said – it is the small talk that helps. There won’t be much small talk at places like Botan without knowing some thai but one can still have a good time me thinks.
good stuff!
Comment posted by smitty at 25.11.2007
Pointers in Picking the Perfect Pole Hugger for Perpetuity by go go groupie
Quote of the week:Leave the Camel Adventure wear and Rolex fake at home BTW
Had a Thai/American friend living here for a while that mined the older rich Thai women scene very well. He would go to some of the nicer hotel bars and hang out. They liked his mixed look but loved that he spoke flawless Thai. They were subtle about needing to get banged but once they reached that point they would tear him up. Buy him drinks and drive him to their pad to pummel him. Then tell him to leave and not call. Sounds fun to me…
Comment posted by smitty at 25.11.2007
Dtuu yens, Peep Inn, pumpkin pie and Bar Bits
ts – I love the papasan massage parlour style – can I help u find a girl? What do u like? That type of shit. Generally they always do me a good turn. I will tip them and get a number and sometimes call ahead to reserve a girl but the go-go style mamasan kills me. They can all go as far as I am concerned.Electric blue patpong mamasans are some of the worst in town.
Comment posted by smitty at 25.11.2007
ww – I second the no. tared and feathered is the correct answer
Comment posted by smitty at 24.11.2007
Pointers in Picking the Perfect Pole Hugger for Perpetuity by go go groupie
jd – only if she brings her uni friends home with her.
Comment posted by smitty at 23.11.2007
Knight in Shining Armor Syndrome by pmmp
okay boys. This thread now has 150+ comments. When they are good and on-topic they form a treasure trove of information and make for a valuable part of the post. When they come down to a few people trading information that seems irrelevant to the original post then the original value of the post starts to go down. I want the value of the posts to go up. Not down.This is not a discussion board and for very good reason. Go to thai visa that. Lots of random chatting with very little substance. In fact. I never use the site. I use google and sometimes it takes me to posts on thai visa and I read them and then I close the browser window. That’s how much I love thai visa. This is not thai visa.
I love all of u.
m – I am flattered u used this humble blog to come out.
Props.
Can we move on folks? Nothing to see here. Like a train wreck. Once u clear the tracks things get back to business as usual.
Consider this comment the clearing of the tracks. I hear the next train coming through now.
How about them Giants?
Comment posted by smitty at 23.11.2007
Pointers in Picking the Perfect Pole Hugger for Perpetuity by go go groupie
great post. I am a big fan of the diamond in the rough. When I first hit the scene I found an 18 yo diamond who was new to the whole thing. I was with her for over 18 months. It was great. The problem is I got bored of her not trying to better herself. She was lazy. Nice but lazy. So I broke it off. I see her from time to time and due to my early training she has a nice boyfriend and doing okay.The second time this has happened I took a different approach. I won’t live with the girl and I told her she has to have a decent job and go to school. She is doing both and doing well. She is still a monster in the sack and is willing to do things that a proper girl never would. Think regular 3somes and tons of sexual exploration. A lot of it instigated by her. She is also learning to be independent and manage herself well. It may work out. It may not but we both know she is better off and I am not afraid to cut the cord if needed. The biggest thing I learned from all of this is to not be afraid of cutting the cord. It makes me way more confident and she realizes it could all go any second. Hence – she works harder to make things happen.
Comment posted by smitty at 23.11.2007
Bangkok Guide to picking up Thai Bi-Girls with your Thai Bi-Girlfriend by mbkknowsp4p
tsp – and where does one get the scoop on these?
Comment posted by smitty at 23.11.2007
Knight in Shining Armor Syndrome by pmmp
yr – great points. I have had a few flings with the normal girls. Had a very serious fling in HK with a proper thai. Bottom line – horrible in the sack and it led me astray because when I wanted some serious rooting I turned to the pros. With the pros I don’t think it is just about experience but it is attitude. They are more open about the whole thing and realize they need to please u. One wants a proper girl in public but a whore in bed. Tough call.
Comment posted by smitty at 23.11.2007
S. Botan – Cheapolay throws us a bone…
r – I don’t feel guilty. I felt great – hence I gave her the 500 baht. Had she not given me the second round I would have still been happy. The name is smitty – not cheap charlie.
Comment posted by smitty at 22.11.2007
cl – I did enjoy and she said it might be tough to catch her working again. Her suggestion was to call in and see ask if she was or not because she did not come everyday. all good. I like the pseudo hunt.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.11.2007
cl – no bubble burst. I am not assuming this girl is a virgin. only new to the place and to farang which does not seem off the wall to me. Remember the papasan brought them over and I swear he said in bad englsh – “paat time”. She also said she comes in when she wants but mentions she does not get the same deal as the girls behind the glass. The price was all the same. That was clear. Will have to research some more.
At this point all readers should know what they need to about S. Botan. Happy hunting!
Comment posted by smitty at 21.11.2007
cl – I guess I am confused. She said she does not work there everyday. Also she and the 3 other girls I was liking were not behind the glass. When he called her number she came from the hallway and not the glass? So what is the difference? I was not harping on the part timer status but wondering why there was some separation of girls?
If a girl is new/young to the system and at a place not frequented by farang than having someone tell me they have never been with farang seems possible. If the showgirl at AW told me that – then of course I would not put too much faith in it.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.11.2007
jd – its actually before u cross into french occupied Laos.
But bonus points for trying.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.11.2007
da – my point is I don’t think I will repeat all of what I experienced there. I will try to find the same girl again. See no reason not too. I saw some other cuties as well. For the money though and the no-frills but no bullshit taking the piss out of u cause u are a farang – S. Botan was fun. Hope u get some good info.
cl – seems to fill in all the missing spots. Thanks again! Not only is everything right up front but they all were very nice about it. I can’t complain at all.
dw – there is oxygen outside the suk corridor.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.11.2007
ts – I think they open a 12:00.
da – look. shoot me. I think I was way lucky but she spoke no english. The guy said she had just started. I shit u not. We had to practically turn off the lights for her to get comfortable. She was not great in bed but she was fun. What can I say? Would the girls behind the glass be like this. I am sure they would not. Would all the part timers be like this no but this stuff does happen.
I can tell u from running the mango there really is a first time for girls. Meaning if they are outside the farang scene then they have not slept with farang. Just that simple. This place is not frequented by farang. If she is new to this place then this is new to her. We had a few girls come through the mango that got sucked in by their friends and their first customer was their first farang. Believe me. I doubt I will be able to repeat this but either way the service and value were good. There had to be 3 other part timers that were cute and young as well. Let’s face it – they have to start somewhere right? Contrary to popular belief their is no Isaan training school that I know of.
Also I did not say she had never had sex. For sure she had or that she had never given a bj. I don’t usually outline every moment of my trips. She started with the textbook HJ and then moved to the textbook BJ. Not sure about u but I have had gf’s many times where they are new to the BJ scene and do not realize how good they are doing but u let them go anyway.
This has rarely happened to me in bkk – this type of experience. Anwyay. Given my write ups and experiences I have little need in my life to make things up. Read my KL posts for how honest I am about my shit. Will this happen again? I am not counting on it.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.11.2007
ww – I think it was only an affirmation of the value. I really was not focused on it but stunned at the experience and the value. All good.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.11.2007
jb – I did not ask. my guess is 90 minutes is cool. Guess I need to do some more research.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.11.2007
Knight in Shining Armor Syndrome by pmmp
gl – Given that you are practically married I am wondering what u have to offer this thread.my guess with pmmp is that this only happens to him when the girls are superhot and there is enough months that have passed since the last time this happened. She is damn hot too so the story is never really over.
As DW mentioned:
Hang on a minute…. before we all start feeling sorry for pmmp and offering him our Sisters (or Mothers), remember that the extent of his problem was that he had to blow-off a ‘hot-chick’.
I think we’d all like those problems?
— see the problem us expats have here is no one really takes us seriously. Most of us are blessed with too many hot chicks and girls we would never get in the RW. So our issues revolve around the deeper things like what pmmp is describing or my hunt for perfect 3somes or how to organize our lives around the abundance of women. I don’t assume that those back in the RW grasp the brevity of the situation.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.11.2007
ts – I figured it would be a team effort to get the cliff notes sorted…
Comment posted by smitty at 20.11.2007
dw – at this point I think my life’s dirty laundry is more than out there for the world too see.
co – that is pretty funny. I know a keen reader and contributor of this blog had a bargirl law contract that he worked on for a while. Was also well done and along the lines of that diving doc.
Comment posted by smitty at 20.11.2007
WOWSER. this thread has to win the award for the most commented thread in the shortest period of time.
That is my only comment.
Comment posted by smitty at 20.11.2007
Soi 7/1: Magic Table and Thermae by Werewolf
ts – that was the best explanation I have ever heard on the subject. I have always thought I was just wired wrong but the whole grab and go pretty much always guarantees that I will have a horrible time in the sack. Working girl or not. I need the click. Hence I pick slow. I sometimes pay a bar or buy drinks but don’t take her home. Get in there JD! Hence I like repeats, massage girl regulars and seem to think that Bkk is an okay place to even have a gf. It is all in the wiring I guess but without some vibe I might as well pass.
Comment posted by smitty at 18.11.2007
City of Angels, Asian Style by DJ
good thread folks. For me I just found that apart from the scene in AC I got so bored. No real clubs, no decent freelancers and I disliked the local men involved with the scene more than I dislike the local Thai guys. From what I have heard the cheap speed use in AC is as much as in Bkk. They just have another name for it. However there were some good bars, some hot girls and it seems cheaper for the most part. For some reason the girls just don’t do it for me like the Thai girls. AC is a nice change of pace though and worth a look see.DJ – thanks for the post and the awesome follow up. You mention the mixes of girls in AC and I have always wondered why you don’t see any of the Thai mixed girls in the Thai scene. Given all the Isaan girls that have had babies with Farang guys I would have thought you would see these mixed kids in the scene. But I hardly ever have. Someone mentioned that tawandee massage has some mixed sideliners that go for big bucks. I may have to see that just to know what they look like.
Some of the mixed girls in AC are quite hot. Also the thing I love about Thailand is the local food is great. Not so in AC.
coolio
Comment posted by smitty at 17.11.2007
bo – these don’t sound like the cookies my mother used to bake.
Comment posted by smitty at 16.11.2007
Only steps away from the Buddhist shrine…
Nana is the ICCศูนย์ วัฒนธรรม à¸à¸µà¸ªà¸²à¸™
the isaan cultural center
Comment posted by smitty at 11.11.2007
I think, if I never made the point in the original post, this is NOT how I would want Nana to turn out, but DTR does not seem to get it. I know he will defend Nana and AW until the cows come home. Either way the place is not what it used to be. I don’t just mean dirty and rundown – I mean quality of bars and girls. Huge difference now between Cowboy.
pmmp and I tried to change this, but alas we are only one bar in a sea of many. As if DTR would have anything to do with this. Our point is DTR is a manager. No skin in the game at all but yet throws his opinions around like a flame thrower torching anyone in sight but not realizing where he is throwing his flames from. DTR – u kicked this off with a post on your site talking about how we bit the dust and how we never made money. Anymore than u can claim your AW numbers we all know that u will never see my books and matt will never show me his. Who cares. What matters is the way you portray yourself and the way u talk about others without a care to how it might affect them or their business. Real life stuff dave. U don’t have a business here so easy for you to say what u want. Let me know when u have a business dave. Then let’s talk about what people write and how it affects their business.
AW is a prime example of one of the ills of Nana. As long as my bar is good – eff the rest of the place because my bar is busy so who cares. Sure Dave. But when the plaza is gone – AW will go right along with it. End of story.
So as I mentioned before. It would have been cool to have owners in the plaza who cared. Plaza management who gave a damn. Alas – not to be. Other bar managers in the plaza who wanted the whole plaza to succeed. Your comments here and on your blog show that this is also impossible. So pmmp and I were naive. We tried to build a better mousetrap and thought we could somehow make Nana better at the same time. I guess we cared too much about that goal but in the process we learned, we grew and we created a loyal following. We will do our best to hold on to it and move on. Either way Dave – I put some skin in the game and I am also willing to openly talk about the good and the bad. My own mistakes as well. Maybe this whole thread is one of them but either way I think the skin in the game gives me some right to discuss this out in the open. Say what u want DTR – u really don’t have any skin in the Nana game. I guess I don’t now either.
Comment posted by smitty at 05.11.2007
oh dave. I think you are the one who has trouble reading. No one ever said AW was not doing well. What we are discussing is the future of Nana plaza, its current state and so on. A topic u seem to be commenting on without actually sticking to the subject.
What will happen to Nana after the master lease is up Dave? What will happen if empty bars stay empty? It is a discussion Dave. The reality is Nana is down. Yes – keep pointing to the busy bars Dave. It has nothing to do with the non-busy or empty bars or the sorry state of the overall place. Anyway. Keep pumping AW Dave.
I will cease to comment here with u. As most people do on the sites u comment on because u make pointless comments and rarely stay on target. Yes – I am out of the plaza. Big deal. Nor was I being defensive. I think the comments where u mention how AW is doing in almost everyone one of them probably look the most defensive. Anyway. Carry on. Go Angelwitch.
Comment posted by smitty at 04.11.2007
jb – thanks for the kind words. It was a tough post to write but so much needed to be said.
dtr – thanks for the note but I amazed how you can continue to advertise the rainbow over Nana Plaza without at all discussing the other issues. Nana is nowhere as popular as it used to be – whether or not AW is doing well. AW is doing well indeed. Congrats. Where will AW go if Nana is gone? Any ideas?
A few busy nights does not make a comeback Dave. The low season was pretty bad but contrary to your knowledge we were doing quite well at the Mango. Our good takings though had nothing to do with the lease negotiations. Yes Big Dogs and Morning Night do well. I mean most bars that have been in business for over 5 years in the right spot do well. Go figure. Hanrihans is not doing well though. Everyone knows that. Just ask their employees. Lucky Luke’s is down year over year. Everyone knows that too. Same as Playskool. Admitting that Nana is now getting rammed with tourists is basically admitting it is going the way of Patpong. I would not think this is something to brag about. Kind of Nana’s Jumping the Shark moment if u ask me. Hence while most of the locals have switched to Cowboy. Along with the hot girls.
But Dave – you sound so bullish on the plaza. Given your go-go guru skills and your experience managing one of the plaza’s top bars – my feeling is you could put your money where your mouth is and open a joint in Nana. Big Mango’s old spot is empty. The one next to Mandarin Table Dance is empty. Farang Connection is for sale. Mercury as well. Probably Spanky’s and Erotica if u offer them some cash. The Plaza is booming Dave(hence all the empty spots and bars for sale) and with so many options for taking advantage of it I would think this is your next best move.
Comment posted by smitty at 04.11.2007
Bangkok Guide to picking up Thai Bi-Girls with your Thai Bi-Girlfriend by mbkknowsp4p
m – send her in. get some data.what u discuss is currently what I am living. However it has been difficult to find the permanent 3rd party since all sorts of issues come up.
can u see the girls alone or only together?
is one girl higher up than the other girl?
believe – they both ask this right away.
should the girls live together?
i decided right away that I would live alone and they come see me.these are all tough issues and things get more complicated then 3 people having fun in the bed. So we continually look for our 3rd wheel and in the meantime pick up from time to time for the 3some action but I think the permanent 3 person scenario, although possible, is not easy.
as for the frolicking – the beach and the pool are both fun.
http://www.bigmangobar.com/?p=245
Comment posted by smitty at 03.11.2007
Only steps away from the Buddhist shrine…
tj – Sure – owning the land would be awesome. Hardly is ever going to happen in bangkok in the bar business but I cannot agree that the nana circumstances are the same as everywhere else. Hardly. We have another bar. Good lease, no key money and the landlords actually take care of the place. Not in nana. They don’t maintain the power, the water, the air or the building. nana is a special case. My guess is the main issue would be the difference between having bars in red light districts and bars not in red lights districts.
Comment posted by smitty at 02.11.2007
jd – that had to be the longest comment u have written. Good points indeed. I am sure nana had to be better back in the day.
pe – clearly enjoy Nana for the spectacle that it is is much different than running a biz there. I knew that would happen after only being there a few weeks. Would always have customer say wow – u get to work in Nana. I would just smile and think yes, if u only knew. What is sad I guess is that the spectacle could continue but given the owners, the landlords and the fleas that tend to work for some of them – it will eventually bury itself.
Comment posted by smitty at 02.11.2007
Working for a Living by Werewolf
ck – yup.that was bantered about here:
http://www.bigmangobar.com/?p=390
Comment posted by smitty at 24.10.2007
co – to some extent I just think it is because it is cheaper here – same across all of SE asia. trying to be a drunk without a job in hk. u would starve or freeze to death come winter. so in my mind SE asia is the magnet for this type of activity due to cost and ease of immigration.
I always use the term falling off of the rails. Meaning when u just lost it and no longer are a productive member of society and need some sort of intervention or to get a life.
They way I see it is people can fall of the rails fairly easily anywhere but in Thailand it usually is enduced 1 of 4 ways.
1. booze
2. drugs
3. girls
4. not working at allthe top three are basically addictions. I think some people can handle the easy women but others the easy women can be the primary reason for falling off of the rails.
The thing with not working is I think u lose some sense of purpose – some ability to create and produce something. Sure u might have some coin and don’t need to work – awesome. Then go to school, volunteer or do something but the idea of doing nothing all day and partying all night can’t last forever.
Comment posted by smitty at 24.10.2007
How to party for 12 hours on $80 in Bangkok by Werewolf
my – that is pretty weak – a road coke eh?
Comment posted by smitty at 18.10.2007
Bangkok Guide to picking up Thai Bi-Girls with your Thai Bi-Girlfriend by mbkknowsp4p
I guess what I meant is they are not really clubs but small bars and they tend to attract the toms like u say – so I don’t think this is the scene for girls who want to mess around or for 3some pickups.Tom wants an easy kill here is my guess and it typically is not.
Comment posted by smitty at 18.10.2007
There are no all girl clubs that I know of in Thailand – but a few bars. Spicy is just a big after hours club. I say go to any of the freelancer type places – spicy, tunnel, spice, and so on. It takes work though to find the girls who truly like girls.
Comment posted by smitty at 18.10.2007
How to party for 12 hours on $80 in Bangkok by Werewolf
ww – I remember writing some stuff no one supposedly read.
Comment posted by smitty at 17.10.2007
Bangkok Guide to picking up Thai Bi-Girls with your Thai Bi-Girlfriend by mbkknowsp4p
t – there is a difference though between u pulling a couple of girls and u and ur girl going shopping for a girl. Big difference. The p4p way is the quickest route to seeing this all become a reality in my opinion. I am having about a 80% success rate. Plus sometimes the girls will stay in touch and they start getting together apart from the p4p scene. It is a nice way to kick it off though.
Comment posted by smitty at 12.10.2007
A guide to Bangkok Nightlife part 6 of Many! by mbkknowsp4p
jc – new shake on ratchada is one of these places but I have never been. From what I know they also do not allow random farang to walk in. I need to do more research on this.
Comment posted by ssb at 09.10.2007
Bangkok Plug & Play by Werewolf
my – it is not just pattaya. tourism has not grown much and people are going to other places than just pattaya and bkk. Most places in Thailand, including local based businesses, have experienced year or year declines. Coups, bad FDI laws, wacky curfews and too much police presence is taking its toll.
Comment posted by smitty at 04.10.2007
my – i don’t bkk will add any new areas. Shrinking of the current ones is more likely. I will write it up soon but Pattaya is now feeling the winds of change. Less nudity, earlier closing and lots of new malls. My guess is Pattaya will eventually be walking street alone and soi 6 will feel the pinch first. Soi 6 I heard had the hardest low season they have ever seen.
Comment posted by smitty at 03.10.2007
hn – not sure what u are referring to. I just meant on my road trip where I was not in pattaya I saw this thing, not sure it is a monkey, on walking street. hope that is perfectly clear.
Comment posted by smitty at 01.10.2007
A guide to Bangkok Nightlife part 7 of Many! by mbkknowsp4p
maa – interesting point. As I am slowly gaining more experience with this I am finding the good looking girls who are into other girls don’t really want a dyke. They call them toms. U see a lot of the go-go girls with toms but the girl I hang with tells me these are the angry bi’s who want something looking like a guy but would prefer her being a girl. I don’t think hooking up with them is that fun. U want a girl who really likes the beauty and sexuality of another beautiful girl. They are a wonder to watch in bed. Has completely ruined me.
Comment posted by smitty at 01.10.2007
I think I saw this thing last night when I was not in Pattaya. I don’t think it is a monkey…
Comment posted by smitty at 01.10.2007
chris – I think WW answered your location question.ww – I think all these places all vary based on who u get. one of the reasons I swear by Tulip. Never seems to be an issue there. I also like going to places where the ball massage is on the menu. They never seem to mess that up and that is always finished with a happy ending. THe fee is more than standard oil but u know what u are getting and can tip less because of it. I have stopped looking for full service at these places for the most part.
Comment posted by smitty at 01.10.2007
Bangkok’s Mundane Life and the Dewey Decimal System by Werewolf
my – I don’t have a problem with the wow gyms. seems to be the best value for the money in bkk.oah – yes. big mango is a classic. fyi – jake did try to talk us out of this whole bkk world we have created. I think all of Jake’s books are a good read btw.
Comment posted by smitty at 27.09.2007
I think bangkok 8 is one of the best in this so called genre
the new one by Jake needham is a good read, the ambassador’s wife.
sightseeing – another cool but less talked about one:
http://www.amazon.com/Sightseeing-Rattawut-Lapcharoensap/dp/0802117880/
also the platform:
http://www.amazon.com/Platform-Michel-Houellebecq/dp/1400030269/
Comment posted by smitty at 26.09.2007
Want to do business in Thailand – need an Idea?
fyi – the latest on bill gross:http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/25/news/companies/Startupking.biz2/index.htm?source=yahoo_quote
Comment posted by smitty at 26.09.2007
Kawsar – excellent. We got tshirts we can ship.
Consider yourself contucted!
http://www.bigmangobar.com/buy-schwag/
Comment posted by smitty at 25.09.2007
I think with all these places it depends on who you get. That is a common theme. I think Tulip is about the only place you go to where the offerings seem to be the same no matter what girl you get. I guess one of the great things about Tulip. Akane just does not have that many hotties any more. I thought Ogoto has a fair amount of decent looking girls but it is not like Tulip or Akane.
Comment posted by ssb at 25.09.2007
dw – yes. you can.Please leave your credit card behind the bar with the said booze.
Comment posted by smitty at 23.09.2007
mbkknowsp4p’s take on Member Clubs
mr mike – was chatting the other night with a long time resident of bkk and he was bemoaning the loss of the cocktail clubs in bkk. Used to be a lot of small but decadent clubs that catered to guys hanging out but of course women were on hand and available. I think member clubs are the only thing that comes close. They are not perfect, take some time to get the hang of but I think are enjoyable for people who invest a some time and coin into it. Enjoy.
Comment posted by smitty at 23.09.2007
dw – we just can’t be trusted with taking care of a monkey. That much should be clear to you by now. Mango has the best prices in the plaza. Will leave it at that.every country has its issues. I have lived in more than a few but I am glad I am in Thailand. We have discussed many times that living here is not the same as partying here but I think the differences are manageable and sustainable.
Comment posted by smitty at 22.09.2007
bkk22 – roger that. I hear u loud and clear.
Sly but effective.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.09.2007
The Sky Club – A Coyote bar by bkk22
beast – I am going to take a guess that since you are reading and commenting here that you are in the same club but no worries. We will welcome you anyway…
Comment posted by smitty at 19.09.2007
Bangkok Guide to picking up Thai Bi-Girls with your Thai Bi-Girlfriend by mbkknowsp4p
I think she is legit folks so go easy.http://myspace.com/geome
Comment posted by smitty at 19.09.2007
geome – do tell. Share with us your tricks for getting non-bi girls into bed. U go for farang more than thai girls eh? Seems like getting non-bi girl into bed might be a bit difficult?
Comment posted by smitty at 18.09.2007
How She(Miss Udon) Sees Us by Werewolf
I must say the latest stick column seems to make miss udon look even sillier than I already thought she was. There seems to be this retort from stick enterprises that she is just speaking her mind and isn’t that a good thing. Sure – but so is everyone reacting to what she says if what she says is ludicrous.I am not quite sure I fully grasp her answer but basically I digest that she is saying if one is really upset when their gf/spouse cheats than it might be okay to cut off her genitals the same way a Thai women might do in a similar situation. Quality stuff folks.
Sorry. I forgot how to cut and paste links…
Comment posted by smitty at 17.09.2007
Satisfaction on Soi 8 (Via Vai Restaurant) by Werewolf
well given that this is a reader submission – I doubt WW knows the owner, I don’t know the owner and I doubt the owner reads the blog then I am assuming none. This is not stickmanbangkok.com in case you are wondering.
Comment posted by smitty at 17.09.2007
How She(Miss Udon) Sees Us by Werewolf
MU – seems you want to mouth off without really understanding the whole story. She is entitled to her opinions – we all just thought it was funny that she was looking down at people who were at a party she was at. Seems rather odd.As an advertiser on the Stickman site I also found it amusing that is was open season on our customers. Which is fine. Freedom of speech. I am down with it. So we turned the tables a bit on her – why do you find that to be a big issue?
I am happy btw. are u?
Comment posted by smitty at 15.09.2007
10 things I hate about Bangkok – Part 4 by On Nutter
dh – they are. right here on Thailand’s most famous blog.
yes. quality work from on nutter!
Comment posted by smitty at 15.09.2007
How She(Miss Udon) Sees Us by Werewolf
bbk – thanks for also reminding me of the not stick thing. I never really got a clear picture of who is writing the column anymore and for sure it is not the same as it was. It is a tragedy that John Gault achieved what he did and the resultant change in the Stickman site.
Comment posted by smitty at 12.09.2007
OAH – To be clear. Anytime you have an open forum like this blog people will use the comments to digress on the subject matter at hand. This original post was not a bash Stick post at all. In fact it was quite clear. Miss Udon took swipes at customers of the big mango bar and I also thought it was a little out of hand. As an advertiser on Sick’s site I did find it a little odd that he would publish an interview with her, at a party she attended, looking down on people who were at the bar and in the plaza. I think WW’s reader submission was right on the money in that regard. Given he is willing to do that then I am also willing to have a forum discussing it. Seems fair on all accounts.
Maybe some of the subsequent comments are about people taking a swipe at stick or frankly just saying what they feel. I don’t think that is bad. I have been reading stick for years. It is not as good as it used to be and it has not grown with the times in terms of better search, information architecture and user interaction. If he chooses not to do those things than that is cool. People can seek out the sites that cater to their needs.
Sometimes I think Stick walks a fine line with his biases towards venues, content clearly not written by him but ultimately published by him and as of late the attitude that is portrayed by Miss Udon.
I think the WW post was on target and an honest opinion of how he feels Miss Udon portrays people like us. End of story.
Comment posted by smitty at 12.09.2007
10 things I hate about Bangkok – Part 4 by On Nutter
c – we can take it back. We only pretended to care…
Comment posted by smitty at 11.09.2007
c – no exclusion meant. I think WW thought you knew the saying and I was just chiming in to explain it since it is more slang than an actual definition. As a lot of everyday street Thai is.
Comment posted by smitty at 11.09.2007
co – it means tut dong. like this I say or when someone says something you like it is like saying – Well said.
is that right WW?
the online dictionaries dont have it. it is more slang anyway but thais use it a lot. was made famous on the thai version of a US game show and when you got the answer right the guy would say:
ถุà¸à¸•à¹‰à¸à¸‡ ครับ
Comment posted by smitty at 10.09.2007
ww – you can find all of ON stuff here:
http://www.bigmangobar.com/reader-submissions/#nutter
So I am assuming these are the same ones in the black shirts that cruise lower suk? I thought they worked for the tourism board or something?
The bathroom nuat boys and the map killed me. I know the exact spot and each time I use the opportunity to both deflect the massage while at the same time brush up on my geography.
Comment posted by smitty at 09.09.2007
The Sky Club – A Coyote bar by bkk22
Okay. Now I know which place. I went there once on a same night we visited Gotcha. Another coyote bar out in the same area. I don’t remember feeling too welcome there as compared to places like gotcha but could have been the night. Have to swing through all these places soon with a more formal review and investigation into price structure and chances for hooking up.Love this city…
Harry and ML – thanks for the details!
Comment posted by smitty at 05.09.2007
harry – good info. would be great if we could get a small review and a way to fix the location somehow.
Comment posted by smitty at 04.09.2007
A good girl shakes the farang money tree by On Nutter
anon – nice one. my rule is a good girl should have money, a job or a sponsor then I am all over it. Otherwise the bargirl is the cheaper option.
Comment posted by smitty at 04.09.2007
A guide to Bangkok Nightlife part 9 (Late Night Places/After Hours) by mbkknowsp4p
bbb – we are aware of a new AH club that is not yet open but sounds promising. we will update soon as we know it is open
Comment posted by smitty at 03.09.2007
Vans, porn karaoke, sausage mcmuffins and Pattaya – Part 2
CO – marine has some of the euro trash feel but what doesn’t in Pattaya these days. it is a great FL scene though.
Comment posted by smitty at 31.08.2007
DW – I forgot.
My 2 hash browns and 1 mcmuffin when fresh were the bomb.
later than morning my 1 muffin was still okay but ditched the browns.
the hot tub seemed to suffer the most damage…
Comment posted by smitty at 31.08.2007
artv
van was 4000 there , stay the night and back
I did not get a room but short time rooms are generally 300-500.
short time in pattaya for me has usually been 1500 baht
food and drinks. I have no idea but generally cheaper than bkk.
seeing the crazy english bloke jump in the tub – priceless…
Comment posted by smitty at 31.08.2007
MP and Combover – I think Marine 1 rules. Insomnia is not a bad options either. The back room of the old lucifers is a nice pick up spot as well. That is about all I can take. When I am really smashed and up late I don’t mind some of the smaller bars to hang at. Jenny star bar and performance bar come to mind!
Glenn – good info and thanks for coming to defend the FLB bar. As always we just write our opinions on a given night we experienced something. Always tell it like it is and I know, given we have a bar, how hard it is to stay consistent especially when the girls are involved.
One of the reason we did the blog as an open forum with comments is to allow people to agree or disagree with us to better create a steady flow of divers information.
Seems to be working.
Thanks for the info and my bad if I called it wrong.
Comment posted by smitty at 31.08.2007
jase – given it is the same owner who has a bunch of mediocre go-gos on both cowboy and nana – it makes sense that the shows and the bar will be lame. Sad really. does not give high hopes for the evolution of the go-go scene
Comment posted by smitty at 30.08.2007
Vans, porn karaoke, sausage mcmuffins and Pattaya…
MP – you raise some good points that are hard to answer. I was in What’s Up a few months back and was not digging the place but I did remember that show. Heaven’s would get naked but no show really but I was always wondering how young a few of the girls were. That gets u in trouble more than the nudity.These closure issues are usually deeper. Meaning – there is more going on but publicly the police have to use something more formal to enforce the closure. Their could be permit issues, partner issues or something deeper totally outside the club but related to the police. Meaning things like owners and their gambling debts can manifest themselves as a closure if the people owed the money have a powerful police connection. Sometimes the police are asking for way too much and the owner or owners just close rather than pay it. Especially in the low season.
Interesting stuff indeed.
Comment posted by smitty at 29.08.2007
10 things I hate about Bangkok – Part 3 by On Nutter
I got one for the I hate list-Every time I go to get a reload on my BTS card they try to put a new paper cover on it. It is already swaddled in plasticadn has a paper cover but they try to replace it each time I reload. Seems like a major waste of paper?
Appreciate all the mango comments folks!
Comment posted by smitty at 29.08.2007
AB – painful. The separate set of books for gf and wives is probably quite true for some people. I have heard the stories. Great stuff…
Comment posted by smitty at 29.08.2007
AUK – I think it can make all the difference in truly enjoying a place in a short time or not. I saw the FOB for dinner and send him to Soi 33. Sometime around 1 he called needed help with a multi barfine situation and directions to Spic. Not bad for the 2nd night out. Have not heard from him since.Jase – agreed. So why the TAT is juggling with the people they want to come – tourism is down and the economy is swirling the toilet. Smart bunch of people. I honestly think though that attitude was decreed by crook Thaskin and I think it is going to wane over time with the economy needing a swift kick in the ass.
C – Where is AW?
Comment posted by smitty at 29.08.2007
MM – nice handle. I would not want to do it but I would think for some people it might be a good option. I only do it for friends and good customers but I get the point indeed.
Amazing how a FOB can feel if taken around and shown the right stuff.
Comment posted by smitty at 28.08.2007
jase – What you are describing is your personal experience factor (PEF) outweighs the general experience of the bar. Duly noted. If I took a FOB there I am sure they would want to turn around and move on. Nothing compelling really. Any bar can become a home of sorts for a regular who invests some time in a few girls and finds a LBFM that does the trick. But if a bar is not that great most people won’t get past first impressions to figure it out.
The owner has many bars – all of which would be amazing if he had lots of girls, nudity, great staff and some ambiance. So far most of his bars don’t and getting those things is not an easy task. I don’t see his bars rivaling any of the top go-gos anytime soon. My point about the lights is it seems at all of his remodels – he has invested more in lights than anything else. As u mentioned – lights do not make a bar. In a go-go typically the girls do.
Comment posted by smitty at 28.08.2007
I know who bought the irish joint and I think the plan on keeping it a pub but I could be wrong. Will find out.
I did happen to go to AW Pattaya because – well – pmmp made me do it.
AW Bkk – never.
Culminating in Nana Disco is always a good call!
Comment posted by smitty at 28.08.2007
M – great points!AB – Agreed. I would say the other one I have seen in Thailand is vendor issues. Owners screwing over a vendor or having a payment dispute and the new owners inherits the hell. Also vendor or supplier credit issues.
PB – good advice!
Comment posted by smitty at 28.08.2007
Vans, porn karaoke, sausage mcmuffins and Pattaya…
So many notes…I only saw the brit in the Jacuzzi…
but the swing
the zombie hand job
it is all just too much!
Comment posted by smitty at 27.08.2007
The Sky Club – A Coyote bar by bkk22
To answer a few questions. All of these places are different when it comes to cost and structure. The non member Thai oriented ones are the cheapest. The one we went to offered 5 bottles of black for 5000 baht. Not bad at all. The girls costs 300 baht an hour and drink from your bottles.My last long night at Forte we got drunk, ate some food, and bought plenty of lady drinks and our total bill was 5000 baht. Not that bad considering the quality of ladies, the entertainment and the fun factor for those who had never been.
Say what u will – it may be cheaper other places or cheaper to get laid but the girls are not this hot in general.
Comment posted by smitty at 27.08.2007
Vans, porn karaoke, sausage mcmuffins and Pattaya…
SS – BTW. I am only telling my side of the adventure – pmmp will have to share with u his.
Comment posted by smitty at 27.08.2007
SS – I think drunk and in a van with other drunk people must have made the monkey video special but if the Thai chicks love it then I think I will be picking some discs up if I can find them. Another tool in my arsenal…
Comment posted by smitty at 27.08.2007
Bangkok Guide to picking up Thai Bi-Girls with your Thai Bi-Girlfriend by mbkknowsp4p
Generally all open until the early morning but it is never a sure thing!
Comment posted by smitty at 26.08.2007
Vans, porn karaoke, sausage mcmuffins and Pattaya…
I do admit to seeing more bikinis and less nudity than usual. Not a good sign at all really since nudity was the big thing Pattaya had over bkk.
Comment posted by smitty at 26.08.2007
And showing means what? Interesting. Must be more to it given that a lot of bars are showing…
Comment posted by smitty at 26.08.2007
The Sky Club – A Coyote bar by bkk22
okay. getting my bearings now. will have to check it out.whilst watching some coyote dvd’s recently I noticed a topless in underwear but with stars segment from Sky. The girls looked amazing.
I must go…
Comment posted by smitty at 26.08.2007
Work permit has to be issued or granted from a business that has available work permits to offer – so short answer is no u can’t make one yourself.
Comment posted by smitty at 25.08.2007
The Sky Club – A Coyote bar by bkk22
bkk22 – great info and thanks for answering the comments.I hear u on these places. U either like them or u don’t but I enjoy them and I love the girls at them. It makes for a fun time out whether u pull or not and gives u something to aim for.
Will check out Sky soon and a few others I have been hearing about. Never a bad time in my book to explore and meet new girls.
Comment posted by smitty at 22.08.2007
I think a lot of places call themselves coyote clubs if they have girls dancing. Places like Sky are like the member clubs but cheaper it seems. I have been to Gotcha and another one I can’t remember the name of.
For sure it is possible to pull but much harder and it is not a barfne scenario. My problem now is that the girls at the member clubs are just a bit hotter than what u typically see at a go-go or freelancer place. So I am in love with how hot they are even knowing it is harder to bang them but that does not bother me much. Hot girls aren’t easy but I like the chase. Spicy is always going as a fallback.
Comment posted by smitty at 22.08.2007
bkk22 – I can assure u it is not by our doing if it is a hoax – too busy to bother with that shit but hard to say. It may just be a stupid as it comes across.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.08.2007
Yeah – I don’t get it either. Only saw it from the inbound links…
seems weird
Comment posted by smitty at 21.08.2007
Another example of splogging:
http://xlivefantasy.blogspot.com/
And our newest fan – ferngirl:
http://femgirl-bangkok.blogspot.com/2007/08/grosser-and-grosser.html
I guess compared to us she thinks BBB is an angel or something?
Comment posted by smitty at 21.08.2007
Tim – come on over. There is still more room for wayward americans like us…
cc – u have made my day! Good stuff. I will check the new content and we appreciate the readers…
G – so freaking true.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.08.2007
CT – We love guys. I just needed a good sample u know?
Thanks for rundown!
More heavy drinking…
Comment posted by smitty at 20.08.2007
Sure Jack. I am sms’ng them as we comment.
Comment posted by smitty at 20.08.2007
Penang nightlife – or lack thereof…
Yup – used to work in KL. I can deal with KL. Some great nightlife indeed. It is a bummer there is no real competition to the beach though.Maybe others with recent experience can chime in.
KL kills Penang…
Comment posted by smitty at 18.08.2007
That is wacked. you got some karma issues.Never been robbed yet in thailand but I don’t take much home and when it is a random bird I do it sober and in short time hotels.
I am bummed you lost the porn. that is upsetting.
Comment posted by SSB at 14.08.2007
Room service in Phnom Penh by On Nutter
Suxi – if you are going to post an alarmist comment like that please point to some facts or websites to support your angle.not saying it is true or not but to say that without citing any references in not very informative or helpful.
thanks!
Comment posted by smitty at 13.08.2007
I have been before but not in a few years and would love to chase down a few VN girls.
I get my 1 year in penang but for my visa runs I am thinking PP next time.
all good.
Comment posted by smitty at 13.08.2007
I know where I am going for my next visa run!
Comment posted by smitty at 13.08.2007
10 things I hate about Bangkok – Part 2 by On Nutter
dt – many thanks back. we appreciate the biz and the comments.cheers!
Comment posted by smitty at 13.08.2007
Urban Legend or Truth? Need Answers by Arthur.
kms – spot on with the robinson thing.so funny
Comment posted by smitty at 12.08.2007
10 things I hate about Bangkok – Part 2 by On Nutter
SC – not saying that at all.I just think the back and forth on the one subject between 2 people who obviously disagree won’t help other people much.
I think neither of you are going to budge on this issue from the looks of it but I am not sure it means much anyway.
U dig darlings. bbb digs eden.
I like tulip.
my mothers is oblivious to all of them.
so please keep the opinions coming and some new posts.
Comment posted by smitty at 12.08.2007
We don’t needing bitching or ranting. just info…
I think BBB is saying he had a great time at Eden. Many people do. Others don’t.
I have never been. I was only saying that I don’t think it was as good as it used to be. Neither is Darlings for the record. All these places depend on who you get on what day. Let’s not kid ourselves.
So let’s end the back on forth on this one and move to higher ground.
I went to darlings twice. first time was cool. Second time sucked ass. doubt I will be back.
tulip. always good!
Comment posted by smitty at 12.08.2007
to be clear. most beer comes to a bar in sealed boxes. no rats
then we move the beer from box to fridge
so I no issue at decently run bar for this happening.
Comment posted by smitty at 11.08.2007
you are killing me. this list has me in tears.
the jobless but employed thins is so spot on.
waiting for part 3…
Comment posted by smitty at 10.08.2007
I think the gripe was the one girl having to choose the second girl rather than you choosing both. I have a friend who hits eden everytime he comes to town and has been for years. He was rather bummed the last few trips to eden telling me the quality and service is way down. From what I understand the owner used to be very involved but not so much anymore.
bkk22- funny observation. I have wondered that myself but most are a part of big chains.
BBB – if you say – phom chorp poo-ying lek dtuaa lek
that means like u like girls with small bodies.
that should do it.
Comment posted by smitty at 08.08.2007
I have just been hearing as of late it was not as good as it was. I am still waiting to go – see no need at this point.I think a lot of the places still do it but you have to ask – it is not the default anymore.
The ones controlled by the lord group still do- love boat, victoria and so on.
Comment posted by smitty at 07.08.2007
Agreed – but then the bed routine after is so – well routine. I tried to convince a lilo girl one time to follow through during the Soapy since I was more than ready to go and it just seemed like it would be fun. She declined and was kind of put out that I would ask…
Comment posted by smitty at 07.08.2007
I don’t mean so much kinky or S & M but maybe a little more than lay on the bed and look at the ceiling.
Something along the lines of tulip with nicer rooms and maybe some outfits is a step in the right direction?
People are not exactly raving about Eden these days…
Comment posted by smitty at 07.08.2007
A guide to Bangkok Nightlife part 6 of Many! by mbkknowsp4p
I think some of them are but my friend thought the same and back at the ranch there was not much of a show.
Comment posted by ssb at 07.08.2007
I am glad someone touched on the subject I wanted to bring up.At the end of the day – the Thai sex scene is quite – boring?
Because there is so much of it there it little competition and little ingenuity. Why don’t go go bars put on a real strip show? That would turn me on.
Why is Eden supposedly so amazing but yet so vanilla?
Places like China have to compete a bit and offer something interesting. I wish it was the same in Thailand to be honest. It would be even more fun.
Now don’t get me wrong – Thailand is pretty amazing but most of the sex – is well pretty standard. My guess is over time Thailand may have to figure out that the meat market approach to the scene might not last forever.
We need more Tulips…
I need to go to Shanghai…
Comment posted by smitty at 07.08.2007
A guide to Bangkok Nightlife part 6 of Many! by mbkknowsp4p
Funny u ask that – many people have and most will tell u that the girls say it is just a show. Not the same thing.Girls who are really into girls don’t do it for an audience.
Comment posted by ssb at 07.08.2007
h – I ain’t easy – almost like finding a Unicorn but when u do. Oh my. life is good.
Comment posted by smitty at 07.08.2007
I can’t really see the appeal then but I guess for newbies wanting that all elusive 3some then maybe Eden is it but I must say the 3somes I have been able to cobble together at home sound more fun.
I the only time I am going to eden is when the 2-3 girls I know who likes girls are willing to go with me. Then we get 2 more girls to make it a 4some but I make sure the true lesbian ensures all the girls get busy. I have heard this is a good way to do it and you would be surprised how many girls are curious as to what goes on in Eden.
Comment posted by smitty at 06.08.2007
mbkknowsp4p’s take on Member Clubs
LOC – You make some valid points as to a possible breakdowns at the member clubs when it comes to classifying the women but no way do they fall into only those 2 categories. Sure some do but even the one I am hanging with right now does not fit into those categories and nor do her 2 friends.I don’t think they are just like go go girls for one simple reason – they are not dealing with the go go scene day and and day out. Many are more educated as well but not all.
I am not saying the member clubs are where to find your Thai sweetheart but if people are out partying and enjoy the scene then for sure the member clubs are a different experience.
yes – one could meet a middle class Thai girl and that is always an option. Although the one nice thing about meeting the girls in the member clubs is they probably understand ones lifestyle a little more when it comes to going out and partying. Some of my friend who have settled down with the nice middle class Thai girls have basically seen their going out and partying days come to an end. Not as a general rule of course but just some anecdotal observations.
Comment posted by smitty at 03.08.2007
10 things I hate about Bangkok by On Nutter
Went into 7-11 today for a quick pack of gum. Right in front of me was a Thai lady who set about 7 bills on the counter and started going through them. I left without buying my gum. They need to have like a limit on how many bills. I am sure it was going to take her 10 minutes.The other annoying thing is when a customer trying to pay their credit card bill talks to the 7-11 person like they are the customer service rep for their visa card company. Complaining about a charge or a problem with the billing – like the 7-11 chick has a clue. She scans the barcode and asks for the money – how would she know about a billing issue?
Just give me my freaking gum!
Comment posted by smitty at 01.08.2007
mbkknowsp4p’s take on Member Clubs
I think many times people feel like it is one or the other. To the contrary I have had many a night that started at Forte and ended on Cowboy. We have started at Nana and then headed to Forte. I like each for what they are individually and how diverse they are. If people simply want quick pulls or cheap thrills then the member clubs probably have no appeal but sometimes I tire of the hardened go go girls, the dingy bars and the attitude of the staff – the member clubs are a great diversion. Good service, nice clubs, gorgeous girls and sometimes some great entertainment.I am currently exploring all avenues since that makes life all the more interesting.
U won’t hear me complain though when after Forte – I swing by the dollhouse to buy a drink for a naked Go Go girl. It’s all good!
Comment posted by smitty at 01.08.2007
bkk22 – THat is how I feel but I have taken friends who do not feel the same way. Some of it is the language thing the other part of it is the cost. THen they sometimes feel like they came away with no hook up or phone and decide the whole place is frustrating. I guess that is the key really – it takes some patience however I think they are different girls, not all of them, and the wait is worthwhile. Having not really closed much at member clubs I am still on the face but enjoying the hunt.
Comment posted by smitty at 01.08.2007
L : you could drink water – I don’t think they would care. Your friends and the girls can drink your booze you get via the membership. So I my feeling is that it would not be a big deal.
Comment posted by smitty at 01.08.2007
I think u are seeing things.
I swear I was not posting and drinking…
Comment posted by smitty at 01.08.2007
Wait a sec. I deleted the comment once I got the post up. Not my fault if you have nothing better to do then constantly hit the refresh button!
I will answer for ML. They pay him each month due to his bedroom skills. Living the dream!
Comment posted by smitty at 31.07.2007
How I am learning to play the member clubs – Part 1
BTW – here is PMMP’s take on Pegasus:http://www.bigmangobar.com/?p=121
Comment posted by smitty at 31.07.2007
I have gone in shorts and tshirts once they knew me and it was okay.
remember – one night at a member club will net u nothing.
for dancers there is no bar fine. end of story.
I think there is for hostesses but it is not as direct. Meaning they can say no and they tend to only go after repeat visits. Once they get to know u. This is my experience anyway but I could be wrong.
Yes – much to talk about for sure.
I think with the base membership there is no included LD – just discounts. I buy the LD as I go that way I can get base membership at a few places.
Hopefully other people who go to member clubs will chime in.
Comment posted by smitty at 31.07.2007
to be clear though – I am just going to highlight the options.
Lower Suk ain’t all bad but…
Comment posted by smitty at 31.07.2007
8 Days in Hong Kong – Part 2b of 3 by morefun
Yes – my friends and I voted to add it to the list for the new wonders of the world sites. At the very least it should be a local heritage site.Laguna is the bomb!
Comment posted by SSB at 30.07.2007
A guide to Bangkok Nightlife part 7 of Many! by mbkknowsp4p
Deeper – interesting way of looking at it. I also think though from some guys with coin they want the discretion and ease of use all in one package. The escorts provide that and for people with money the difference in cost is a rounding error.Clearly there is a market for all of it in one town.
Comment posted by smitty at 29.07.2007
10 things I hate about Bangkok by On Nutter
CB – I know it is like stepping into little middle east but I don’t feel that way at all. I eat around that area a few times a week and been prone to hang outside bamboo bar late chatting wth the kebab guy and having a drink. I think it is not dangerous but maybe some people would feel out of place. Just part of the bangkok fabric is my mind. However there are some shady looking dude and yes sometimes I think some of the guys are staring me down but I don’t care.
Comment posted by smitty at 27.07.2007
Evolution and looking for new pastures…
Let me third it and then answer.Got them from a friend who had bit torrented them.
So far I have not seen them for sale around thailand because the vendors don’t seem to realize there are episodes 13-21 that are part of season 6. They think season 6 ended at episode 12. For quality TV show for sale I go to Maew in MBK. 2 or 3rd floor I think. They have everything but yet to have the finale of Sopranos as of a few weeks ago.
coolio?
Comment posted by smitty at 26.07.2007
A guide to Bangkok Nightlife part 7 of Many! by mbkknowsp4p
Glenn – Thanks for the candid info. In theory, for a FOB, I bet you had a great time. The thing is that not knowing how to do it – this path probably made the best sense.The question is would u do it again?
Would u do it knowing that for about 2000-3000 u could have had the same thing?
What some people say is the difference in quality.
Was she super hot?
Comment posted by smitty at 24.07.2007
I am not sure in this case how the girl has to be dealt with by the bar for the situation with the customer. As I have stated before – how would the bar even know this was happening. My guess is the girl was coming to work as normal and the guy was sending her money without any knowledge if the bar owner. Remember in most cases the bar stays out of this for a reason. So the guy comes back – finds out the girl was working and then gets mad at the bar owners? Not sure it all computes for me.
Comment posted by smitty at 23.07.2007
Sounds like a new business model for the bars. I am going to research right away. All kidding aside I think the bar owners have enough to worry about and the punters need to understand what they are dealing with. This is a business. For the girls and the bars. Granted there is a fine line here – like when we talked about customer service and bad bar girls but I think the idea that a guy “rescues” a girl from the bar and wants the bar owner to help enforce the deal is a little over the top.
I could tell stories about issues we have seen with customers and bargirls but I don’t kiss and tell. Point being is that usually the stories don’t line up very well but many times we find that the girls are usually telling the truth to us because they want to keep their jobs for the most part. Many of them value their chance to stay employed with their friends over lying and losing their jobs and face with their co-workers. The really strange behavior tends to come from the customers. I could talk about the time with the old dude, his thai gf and the katoey but no one would believe me.
Good banter folks!
Comment posted by smitty at 22.07.2007
Alan Greenspan spotted at Marine Disco – Pattaya Part 2
I think it was his stunt double that he used for the congressional hearings…
Comment posted by ssb at 21.07.2007
Jimmy – where is pink massage?
Comment posted by smitty at 21.07.2007
Heck – thanks for sharing. I honestly would not have minded if she had a boyfriend but she never said. I think she withheld the info cause she was looking to trade out so to speak so she kept it to herself. I like a freebird and would have been happy to been the 3rd wheel.Good call on the thai boyfriend. U don’t need that!
Comment posted by SSB at 21.07.2007
A guide to Bangkok Nightlife part 6 of Many! by mbkknowsp4p
Always wondered if Eden would be amazing or a letdown. Somehow I think the buildup is so big that it would be a letdown. a couple girls in my apartment who are into each other sounds like a better deal. Of course newbies might have a hard time pulling that off so maybe eden is the better choice for the FOB who wants something special.Please send in a darlings writeup!
Comment posted by smitty at 19.07.2007
A good girl shakes the farang money tree by On Nutter
d suk – not sure what object you are attacking? The author, the fries or wester nutters. Please clarify thanks.
Comment posted by smitty at 18.07.2007
Seems like this whole post has touched off some interesting comments. I am sure there is a crowd out there, Old Asia Hand, that will hammer on any of us who partake in P4P. I have no issues with people who have issues with it so need to deal with that here.
For me it is pretty simple. P4P tends to be a known quantity. It is a transaction. I know what I am getting, what it will cost me and generally both parties seem to be okay with the whole thing. At least that is how it should work but sometimes it does not.
What I see happen is when some guys find their first non P4P Thai girl that they want to have a relationship with, they tend to let their guard down and assume that she is better or different than the rest. However P4P or not – there are no generalizations. A normal girl can take u as easily as a P4P girl. A P4P girl can turn out to be the best thing ever. So can a non P4P girl. No rules here.
On Nutter shared his experience and that is really what it is all about for me. It does not mean there is any blck or white here. Just an experience. One we can all learn from.
Just walking down the street today I saw a Thai guy welding some sign on Silom by squinting and shutting his eyes just before he hit the weld. Then he would stop and re open them to do it again. Insane. It’s Thailand though. How can one really generalize this place? Would be impossible.
Back to my own world. Will set out Friday looking for more girls and more phone numbers in a new to me non P4P area. Will see how it goes. Can always hit Spicy later if I totally strike out. Love the options Bkk provides.
Comment posted by smitty at 11.07.2007
CL – I would agree that with inflation, price of fuel and so on that they need to raise them. If not the initial drop but at least the price as the meter starts rolling. At the same time I think they need to monitor the taxis more and maybe set the bar a little higher for getting a license.
Comment posted by ssb at 09.07.2007
A guide to Bangkok Nightlife part 6 of Many! by mbkknowsp4p
Yes – some of the most beautiful women in Thailand are men…
Comment posted by smitty at 05.07.2007
mbkknowsp4p – Words of Wisdom…
Sopranos is cool. I prefer Forte but I have also been hearing good things about the Pent and met a few ladies out one night from the Pent that were very cool. Smoking hot as well.On this 60-90 k per month. I do not think that is the average nor do I think they are not banging someone for some of it. I just think it is less of a direct pay for sex model. More indirect so to speak. I think there salaries are like 10-30k depending on who or how popular they are. So where is the rest of that money coming from? Ladydrinks to be sure especially given they are like 200 or more a pop. But where is the rest of the cash coming from? Boyfriends, giks, sugardaddies? Sure – but are all these people not getting sex? I don’t think so. Would be nice to dig into the economics of this scene some more. For them to make that much money is flowing from some dude’s pocket to the girls even if it is in the form of gifts and night’s out but I think the gifter is not always going without.
Comment posted by smitty at 04.07.2007
A guide to Bangkok Nightlife part 6 of Many! by mbkknowsp4p
To be clear with sth 3 and sth 4 I don’t think they are available for public use but can only be used from within their bars. I was offered to use the ones in the mandarin but did not partake but was told I could. Others say u can’t. Who knows. I don’t think the ones as Erotica are being used again?
Comment posted by smitty at 30.06.2007
BBB – My bad on the Lolitas closure.
Are u counting the mandarin rooms as the third short time hotel? Not sure where the third one is u mention.
come on BBB – u need to start trolling the malls. ask out someone who works at say a nice clothing store and then keep track of how long it takes to get laid. This should be tougher than the foot massage girl.
Comment posted by smitty at 30.06.2007
JD – not sure I get your comment?LP – i have never felt threatened or worried myself but I know they love to scam and seem to think it is their right.
MT – I tend to like the motorcycle taxi drivers. I have hired some to help me move, make deliveries, courier cash and help me find places. I think most of them are pretty decent and hard working but tend to hit the bottle a lot like a lot of poorer Thais but I will take a motorci driver over a taxi driver most days.
PH – How was the show? I must say I think the Manila taxi drivers are worse. Sure thai taxis are cheap but I don’t think getting ripped off is cool and sucks these guys are representing the front line of tourism.
Bingo – what is it u would tell them? Tuk tuks seem hard to ID but I guess with taxis u could give the taxi number but I think since it is the driver causing the issue, not the car, u would have to turn in the driver?
Comment posted by smitty at 30.06.2007
Alan Greenspan spotted at Marine Disco – Pattaya Part 2
duds happen…
Comment posted by ssb at 23.06.2007
UAE (Dubai, Abu Dhabi) by mbkknowsp4p
Delboy – thanks for the comment and for the update on the scene in Dubai. Appreciate the detail!
Comment posted by smitty at 23.06.2007
That this URL goes well with this post:http://tinyurl.com/nof5s
Seems I may have to go to Wat Po and ask for the ball massage? Somehow I don’t think they do that training there. They say the ball massage originates from India – for medical purposes. Nice.
Comment posted by smitty at 21.06.2007
The place is called Dental Design. It is on Asoke.
Basically head out of soi cowboy with the big sign to your back and u r looking at Asoke. Walk right down Asoke and look for it on your right. About 3-5 minute walk from Cowboy. I picked it for that very reason – then I can say I am going to the Dentist. Or after the Dentist I can get a quick drink. They speak enlgish, do nice work and have reasonable rates.
have fun
Comment posted by smitty at 21.06.2007
Want to do business in Thailand – need an Idea?
To be clear – Bill made a ton of money. His big play was selling overture to yahoo – huge bank. Now he is investing in all things green – a former colleague is working at his solar startup.
Comment posted by smitty at 20.06.2007
AB – I used to work with IdeaLab – I did not like Bill too much.
The reason I mentioned Ideacon is that Thailand only has biz brokers, visa shops, accounting shops and businesses to help u run your Thai business. There is no one focusing on helping people to become entrepreneurs in Thailand. If Ideacon focuses on that, as well as having some novel ideas to share or foster – then they may find a niche. We shall see…
Comment posted by smitty at 20.06.2007
mbkknowsp4p – Words of Wisdom…
http://www.bigmangobar.com/2006/10/12/mango-weekly-08-october-2006/
Comment posted by smitty at 20.06.2007
Mango Weekly – 28 May 2006 (Vietnam)
For those party seekers in Hanoi – seems the New Century, the top freelancer pick-up joint in Hanoi, had a big drug bust. Also people were caught on site having sex – oh my.Any Hanoi people have any insight? Seems as VN gets more popular so will the busts.
http://vietnamnews.vnagency.com.vn/showarticle.php?num=01CAS020507
Comment posted by smitty at 17.06.2007
UAE (Dubai, Abu Dhabi) by mbkknowsp4p
Charles – appreciate the updates – exactly what was needed!
Comment posted by smitty at 17.06.2007
In Defence of the C Team by Arthur
Cabby – I think it is pretty simple. They think more girls equals more bar fines – the overly simplistic Thai way of thinking. I agree though – I wish there was more space, more dancing and chances of getting a better view.
Comment posted by smitty at 12.06.2007
Tokyo Party Night – the bottom of the barrel happens…
Gas Panic is cool but there are so many places in Roppongi – the trick is to follow the crowds…
Comment posted by smitty at 06.06.2007
Tokyo is a fun place indeed. A visual feast.
I have read Busting Vegas – great read.
http://www.benmezrich.com/books.html
Have to check his other stuff out. Thanks.
Comment posted by smitty at 03.06.2007
WW – great points but I think the negatives u mentioned are the same for other foreign established companies as well. Most of the restrictions u list are the same if u did a 49-51 company unless your Thai partners were actual active Thai partners who could justify being in those businesses.Meaning – if you were DHL and u were a joint company u can get into shipping but if you are Joe from the UK with your Thai bargirl sham company you would still not get into shipping as a business in Thailand. They would most liekely never approve it in your core charter.
Other than the land deals – I get your point but all the land deals that were done without the proper Thai partners have also come undone. I guess what I am trying to say unless you are a big corporate entity with true Thai partners then the Amity works for most things.
They may unravel it but then I have heard the US would put pressure to unravel the bennies they have given the Thais in the US under Amity. For sure at one point they will quite giving out Amity corps but most people do not think they will require existing Amity corps to change given the boats it will rock.
But – hell – this is Thailand so who knows. I think for a small to medium size business Amity is not to bad of an option for those people it is available to.
What I am amazed is how hard it is to get solid answers on alot of this.
Comment posted by smitty at 30.05.2007
U make a great point but I still think some of their actions stem form inherent Xenophobia but I get your angle. Thanks for commenting.Not sure I get your point on the bar girl scenario? Is this to see if she likes u apart from the money or to see if the money is for sex? I mean in theory u are renting time – whether it is for sex or not. If your point is u like to just have fun and get to know them more then I understand that but not sure I get the issue being tied to sex.
Comment posted by ssb at 29.05.2007
In Japan – for better or worse!
Mr. L. Thanks for the info. I see the new Gaspanic in Roppongi opened but I did not get a chance to check it out. As suspected the wedding schedule was first but we had a good night out. Will write up a trip report soon. Interesting on the shrooms. I did not know. Will see if I get a chance to run some errands today before I head back to Bkk.
Comment posted by smitty at 28.05.2007
Hua Hin – okay. So the beaches are cool…
E@L – Glad u found us.Free is good.
Comment posted by smitty at 15.05.2007
Nobspot. So the viewing a potential golden shower show girl is not your thing. I get it.
Will take your advice next time in Hua Hin but what is the name of the spot with the topless coyote girls? Anyone know. Sounds like fun!
Comment posted by smitty at 12.05.2007
Well. This is what I was looking for!Well I did read the first 2 books on my list and I stand by them.
Looks like working with Thais sucks!
Good to know.
Comment posted by smitty at 11.05.2007
WW. Thanks. Will incorporate these into the main section.
Just curious. Any experience with this firm?
thanks!
Comment posted by smitty at 10.05.2007
Yeah. At the bookstore there are more books about building a house, bar girls stories and culture books than anything else. Thanks for the tip…
Comment posted by smitty at 10.05.2007
The P4P Scene in Macau – Part 3 by Arthur
I don’t know of places exactly the same.Sounds like u like attention paid to the starfish?
I would try Tulip near Thong Lor or Akina on Soi 33.
They know where the starfish is.
Comment posted by smitty at 03.05.2007
The P4P Scene in Macau – Part 1 by Arthur
Combover – thanks. Perfect rollup.Laguna was church for me in HK. An institution. I would try to get there before 12 – noon.
Comment posted by smitty at 30.04.2007
You might want to read this post – there are 4 parts:
http://www.bigmangobar.com/2006/09/27/8-days-in-hong-kong-part-1-of-3/
You can see all the stuff from other countries under this category:
http://www.bigmangobar.com/category/trip-report/
Or use the archives – look under categories and reader contributions for anything related to HK:
http://www.bigmangobar.com/archives/
or type hk into the search box or use this link:
http://www.bigmangobar.com/index.php?s=hong+kong
As for HK – there is not a scene like Nana or Cowboy. There are a few go go like bars in Wan Chai district but they are horrible and overpriced. I would avoid them like the plague but you can go to a few to get some drinks and check it out.
If you are looking to pull just go to the freelancer discos in Wan Chai like Fenwick, Laguna, Bridge and all the other ones in the area. U can spend days roaming around Wan Chai.
For proper clubbing I would pick up a copy of HK Magazine, a freebie found in all the coffee shops, which will list all the clubs and the various nights that are happening.
I am sure others might chime in on this one.
thanks!
Comment posted by smitty at 29.04.2007
WW – one more comment on your post:For the permanent 1 year visa you have to meet the Thai employee rule, have had to pay personal income taxes, company taxes and something they threw in recently you is you must no longer be a loss-making company. I think this one is so stupid and was a recent thing due to FBA. This is insane since no one would show profit until they have recouped there capital investment. So in our case as we build/buy bars we spend capital and I have no intention of making profit until I recoup my investments. Really lame this one is.
So me, like many people I know, take the 1 year visa that must be cleared every 90 days with a visa run. My work permit has to be stamped at the same time to reflect the 90 period. I am okay with this since it also allows you to pay yourself a lower salary than if you had the 1 year visa.
Comment posted by smitty at 29.04.2007
Jesus. I hit a geyser here folks. I think this is pretty cool. I can’t disagree or agree with it all but I think the discussion is great.
I made my decision to be here because I wanted to be here. I like Asia and I am over living in America. Hong Kong got too pricey, too uptight and a little to Chinese for me but my 4 years there were amazing. I would not trade them for anything. I loved SE Asia and felt Thailand was the best choice for me but hell it may not be for others. I have some friends making a good go of things in Vietnam and I think about looking into that as well.
WW – thanks. I may roll you stuff into a post if you don’t mind. Huge amount of stuff in there.
BBB – I hear u. I do think the virtual thing can work though. Meaning if you just need a place to hack away then I think Thailand is cool for that – visa issues aside. I am still bringing money to their economy is my take on it but obviously I would not engage in local business without doing it the right way. Of course I know a lot of people doing import/export without any licenses and all good until u get caught. The transfer this is tough but should be explored. I got as far as HK on a transfer that at least got me to Asia. Another friend of mine got as far as Singapore so I can help get you out of the mother country.
A guy who did – wow. Telling it like it is. Good advice. It can be tough but it can be done as well but I think you need goals, a plan and a fallback position. So true. U also need not fall off the rails like I see so many do. Huge props though – nice rant. I also hear u on the Thai school.
For me – bottom line. I wanted to be an entrepreneur
while at the same time freeing up some of my cycles to run this blog, write and follow some other longshot opportunities that I never had the time for when I was working for them man. Also being an entrepreneur may not be as simple – it can be a hell of a lot cheaper than say doing it in HK or San Francisco.great thread folks. much more to come.
Comment posted by smitty at 29.04.2007
Actually I should add to this that some people do manage to move to Thailand and just look for a normal salaried position but I would say this is pretty rare unless you have some skills in high-tech, telecom, pharma or finance. Not saying this does not happen but I have only met a few people who made it happen this way. However it did take them at least 6 months or more to get a position. I am sure some readers may have a comment or two about this.
I also know others due to their language skills – be it Thai, Japanese or Chinese – are also able to find jobs with companies in Thailand.
Comment posted by smitty at 29.04.2007
The P4P Scene in Macau – Part 2 by Arthur
When I first went to the Lisboa to play cards – I was too busy dodging spitballs to even know there were P4P girls loitering around.Great write-up!
thanks
Comment posted by smitty at 27.04.2007
We won’t let him do that to u WW.Besides I think u have class…
Yeah forgot the whole AW caters to the high class customers of Bangkok! I wonder what that makes Pegasus club then?
Comment posted by smitty at 18.04.2007
The only thing I have in high quality is my techno MP3′s and my bar guide printed on high quality glossy paper with a headline that warns never to step foot in AW.
each to his own…
Comment posted by smitty at 17.04.2007
Well – I have only heard the song on the video but I do think it is cool.
I am sure u meant to say angelwitch sucks?
Just let me know and I can edit that for u.
Comment posted by smitty at 17.04.2007
update – since it was just a bootleg mp3 of songs he thinks it was a song by a guy named pattaya pete.
will let u know if I get any other info!
Comment posted by smitty at 08.04.2007
agent smith – my buddy made the video so I will ask him about the song.
thanks!
Comment posted by smitty at 07.04.2007
Is it like playing russian roulette? by werewolf
I had no idea it would on there:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nana_Plaza
I fixed our spelling and added our link.
I may add more detail about the place.
too funny
Comment posted by smitty at 04.04.2007
Interesting and thought provoking post. I am glad WW sent it in since most people or blogs tend to ignore these subjects.
I have always felt that the sex industry tends to promote safer sex than the casual dating or casual sex. For instance the numerous times I have hooked up with a regular girl in Hong Kong and Japan they have begged for no condom sex. Seemed weird to me. My friend in Japan says that most of the time the Japanese girls he hooks up with almost beg for no condom sex. Where my experience with bargirls is they always use a condom. At a massage recently the massage girl insisted on a BJ with condom or no blow job.
On the to the general BJ scene this is what Avert says:
http://www.avert.org/orlsx.htm
The risk is pretty low but not impossible.
Comment posted by smitty at 04.04.2007
mbkknowsp4p – Words of Wisdom…
I have fun at these places but I am not seeing the merits of trying to take the girls. I used to go to orbit and agreed it was pretty cool.I am finding that trying to take the girls at the member’s club does not seem to add up. They get jealous when u try for other girls at the same club, they want a lot of money (whether through shopping, dinner or the overpriced ladydrinks), and they seem to be as hard to get into bed as a normal girl u might meet at RCA but I don’t pay the normal girl.
For a change of pace they are fun but for trying to pull it is not adding up for me. I like taking newbies to these places for the amount of hot looking girls unlike what u see in Cowboy or Nana but for sheer partying and getting some they can’t compare.
Comment posted by smitty at 01.04.2007
Urban Legend or Truth? Need Answers by Arthur.
So the moral of the story is too chose the poison that best promotes clear skin…
Comment posted by smitty at 26.03.2007
Zit man – no worries. Plenty to go around.
Combover – I have not seen or heard of Shabu in Thailand, thought that was a Philippines things? Curious.
Comment posted by smitty at 26.03.2007
DR in HK – was waiting for someone to say it.
but that is the preferred cheap party drug and heavy users of it tend to get some pretty bad skin over time.
just a thought…
Comment posted by smitty at 25.03.2007
I can’t remember but I thought one of the things they smoke actually does cause Acne but I am not sure.
I do know that many just live an unhealthy lifestyle. One past friend of mine who was able to go to a dermatologist who suggested some stuff for her face cleaning procedures and over time her face totally cleared up. She was like a new women.
Comment posted by smitty at 24.03.2007
As is often with all these places it is all dependent on the ladies – hence why I like Tulip so much!
Comment posted by ssb at 20.03.2007
One venue – multiple girls. Is it worth it? by Arthur
Arthur – what no one commented on but I am most jealous of is the training ground scenario u had set up for yourself. That sounds amazing.I have always wondered in places like Tulip who shows the new girls around since all my experiences there have been pretty good. Same with places like Lolitas but it appears not much training is happening there given I have had some not so good but still good J. Just takes longer which is okay with me. I think they tend to learn quick at Lolitas given they probably want to get it over as fast as they can?
good stuff.
Comment posted by smitty at 18.03.2007
you are killing me.
I would be all over the 3some with the sisters, nice…
Comment posted by smitty at 17.03.2007
Honestly. None of this happened.I read a similar story on the net about a couple holidaying in Florida and I changed the setting and found some pictures on the net.
I am so bad…
sorry A
Comment posted by smitty at 16.03.2007
Yes. I know the soi but I never tell people about it.I kept a card from my last visit that has a small map to it.
Some taxi’s know but not most of them.
good stuff
Comment posted by ssb at 13.03.2007
Hate is such a strong word boys…
Comment posted by smitty at 13.03.2007
Bangkok Guide to picking up Thai Bi-Girls with your Thai Bi-Girlfriend by mbkknowsp4p
What – American service girls participating in Thai 3somes?No wonder Rumsfield couldn’t handle it anymore.
Damn.
I am proud as ever at this moment for being an American.I must say. My buddy in Japan and I have always agreed that the ultimate 3some would be an American girl with some Asian Hottie.
Looks like u beat us to it.
U da man.
So jealous.
God and half of Bangkok hopes u got pictures of this for archival purposes.
Comment posted by smitty at 11.03.2007
I don’t see any of this keeping the normal low lifes from trying to pilfer my phone since they probably don’t know any of this. So maybe the carrier could kill my phone but the dude would still try and steal it. Bottom line is I need to be more careful.oh well…
good info though.
thanks
Comment posted by smitty at 08.03.2007
well. I did not know u were leaving so fast punk.all good.
I am sure u will be back sooner than u think
Comment posted by smitty at 08.03.2007
werewolf.my hats off to. about as candid as it gets.
her rules are pretty straight on – they don’t want it in their face. I can’t blame them.
good info.
oh the BKK 101 book I still need to write yearns for this data!
Comment posted by smitty at 06.03.2007
Yeah – have to sort that one out for yourself.
The hotel is pretty cool!
Comment posted by smitty at 06.03.2007
Don’t mix the bread and beware the Farang Tax!
Well. I get “hands on” experience all the time but we tend to write about it here.Feel free to link in…
Problem is I get so used to my regular haunts that I forget to try new places.
woe is me.
Comment posted by ssb at 06.03.2007
well – it aint bad but I can think of a few things…he he
Comment posted by ssb at 27.02.2007
Technically Outclassed I know… by Arthur
Hmmm. I just realized it could be Tong or it could be our first cashier – Goong but Tong was smaller. PMMP may be able to settle this with a pic.
Comment posted by smitty at 20.02.2007
I think that would be Tong. Big smile right?
Comment posted by smitty at 20.02.2007
P: yeah. I know the shortcuts but sometimes that is not the direction I need to “head” or whre I am “coming” from so in those cases I do the walk.werewolf: Maybe it is or maybe u freak even the kooks out and therefore are left alone. both interesting theories.
I am starting lolita watch patpong. If i knew the grand opening day I would start a countdown…
Comment posted by ssb at 12.02.2007
Yes. Exactly the experiences I have had. One friend was dating a nurse. Gorgeous, a little older and made good money. I remember his stories. No kissing for the first few months. Some fondling of the breasts after like 4 months but was reminded that this was not leading to sex. Knowing he was never going to last she even told him to see “other” girls during this time so that he would not go crazy. So Thailand.
Comment posted by ssb at 11.02.2007
Its all good panders…
Comment posted by ssb at 05.02.2007
Hmmmmm. Looks okay so far.
Comment posted by smitty at 31.01.2007
Well thanks. I guess it was not really by accident then!
Comment posted by SSB at 29.01.2007
Andy – u da man. U could add they could get some proper english food at the duke…
Comment posted by ssb at 28.01.2007
WOW. This is getting quite the reads. What a topic. Not sure if my following alice down the rabbit hole will compare but I digress.
Mr. Lee. Not brain dead but possibly just too much time in England dealing with English women.
Same Same. Glad u like it. We do try. As for Sandika we found it quite odd. It seems to be a complete leveling. One theory is Thaksin is going to build the new TETWBP party headquarters so he is closer to the hotties that frequent Ekkamai. FYI TETWBP is THAIS EVADING TAXES WHILE BEING PRIME MINISTER party. He created it. The other rumor is they are building a new club. Only time will tell.
Glenn. It only feels like the first time once. So perfect when u having someone who knows to show u around. The important lesson here is nothing is free but -
Andy points out well that every freaking dollar can be well spent in BKK unlike anywhere else on the planet.
carry on
Comment posted by smitty at 28.01.2007
Well hey. There are more than a few of us but I am sure u can sort out which guys we are. I will take a Bulmer’s though. thanks!
Comment posted by smitty at 27.01.2007
Not right here – but over by Cassanova!
I am sure we can find some blue cheese but come in first so we can verify your existence.
please don’t compare us to the rat kart in front of nana with their latex cheese…
Comment posted by ssb at 27.01.2007
For Nampla:
Well it has been a year or more since we opened so not sure we can forgive u for not coming back. We are doing well though – thanks. Yeah Stick. A victim of one of those Fox TV Specials – when fans attack. Mango Sauce was in it for the cash and it looks like the Google bit twiddlers flipped the wrong sticky bit and the cash dried up. We will never pretend – we never thought anyone would read our shite so therefore I never kidded myself that we would make money. So we write anyway. Dave the Rave – a legend in the making is all I can say.
We are happy to let u come join us in the mango and ringing the bell more than a few times will make up for lost time. So end us an email – info@bigmangobar.com and we will work out the details offline.
Assume u are hinting that some races are hung and others are not. Can’t think it will matter to much once the ladydrinks start flowing.
Peace. Thanks for reading the blog!
Comment posted by ssb at 26.01.2007
Well. I am not that bad but the place warrants another trip before we blow it open. Mostly because the first time we visited it was late and I was tired and slightly intoxicated. I also owe taking a few people there first but in fairness I think some people need to hunt around a bit since that is how we found the place. More hints forthcoming.
Comment posted by ssb at 25.01.2007
Well. I hate to share it. Honestly for those who know Bangkok or can speak even a speck of Thai we have given enough info. Part of the game was to see who could find it – kind of like where’s waldo. We all know this is Thailand – not like one really needs to lie about this stuff. That would be like I had a 3some last night and then my buddy in the US thinking it is not possible. It is. We all know it is. This street is real but thought we would try some people out first – but seriously.
Comment posted by smitty at 25.01.2007
He he. Ah AB we have so much to do. Friend and I have been finding some very off the beaten path spots that we are going to write about but not telling people how to find them. When u coming over?
Comment posted by ssb at 21.01.2007
Ian. Great points. The one time my buddy and I had an ashtray thrown at us we were in Midnite bar. We had just kind of shoved the money try at the Mamasan. Long story. Anyway I was just complaining because I had just bought a drink and the Mamasan told the girl to go dance. So I agree with your rule.
Comment posted by ssb at 16.01.2007
Well. She was not from rawhide. But I got a message whilst in Rawhide. Rawhide got me worked up so needed to do something. Hotel was penny black – great short time pad for cowboy. Age – well. ummmm. anyway.
this should help tide u over:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/63313530@N00/
later
u figure out yet what day u get back?
Comment posted by ssb at 15.01.2007
Friend of mine commented on this post, to me – in email, and he said a very good point. One I have to try sometime. He mentioned that when some blathering idiot starts talking about the crazy shit he wants to do in Thailand but obviously one can tell it is all talk you can just call them on the carpet and says let’s go. I know a place we can go right now, Eden Club – for example, and make all this talk of yours come true. Hell. Let me help u pay your bill and let’s jump in a cab and get right on over there. Chances are they won’t go anywhere since it is all talk but a nice way to shut them up potentially.
Comment posted by ssb at 14.01.2007
Don’t mix the bread and beware the Farang Tax!
This is a good list actually but sometimes I need some hands on advice! nice link though. thanksI like the research though. he he
Comment posted by smitty at 12.01.2007
kallah – thanks for th kudos. We try hard. Remember all the homework is for the blog. he he
hope we see u around sometime again soon.
I am going back to my computer screen to keep watching the SET drop like a rock.
later
Comment posted by ssb at 11.01.2007
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