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	<title>Comments on: mbkknowsp4p&#8217;s take on Member Clubs</title>
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		<title>By: psi100th</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmangobar.com/blog/reader-submissions/2007/07/31/take-on-member-clubs/#comment-24791</link>
		<dc:creator>psi100th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 03:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BK-22 totally agree but u left one item off your list:
3. have money to spend ...

And I&#039;m with you, my personal favourite being Resort ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BK-22 totally agree but u left one item off your list:<br />
3. have money to spend &#8230;</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m with you, my personal favourite being Resort <img src='http://www.bigmangobar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br /> <a href="http://www.bigmangobar.com/viewcomments/2289003411" rel="nofollow">View all comments by psi100th</a></p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mr mike - was chatting the other night with a long time resident of bkk and he was bemoaning the loss of the cocktail clubs in bkk. Used to be a lot of small but decadent clubs that catered to guys hanging out but of course women were on hand and available. I think member clubs are the only thing that comes close. They are not perfect, take some time to get the hang of but I think are enjoyable for people who invest a some time and coin into it. Enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mr mike &#8211; was chatting the other night with a long time resident of bkk and he was bemoaning the loss of the cocktail clubs in bkk. Used to be a lot of small but decadent clubs that catered to guys hanging out but of course women were on hand and available. I think member clubs are the only thing that comes close. They are not perfect, take some time to get the hang of but I think are enjoyable for people who invest a some time and coin into it. Enjoy.<br /> <a href="http://www.bigmangobar.com/viewcomments/62563103" rel="nofollow">View all comments by smitty</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for ML smitty, bkk22 and others. Like this kind of non-heated discussion where ppl but their words in nice way and trying to avoid heating up the ppl who have strong opinions. :) I am definetly interested in member clubs, in case that I would finally get work in Thailand. All this sounds so great, I have some sort of longing for those men only clubs where guys smoke cigars and talk politics or shit. :) Member clubs seems to be perfect men hideouts, only coupled with gorgeous women as bonus! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for ML smitty, bkk22 and others. Like this kind of non-heated discussion where ppl but their words in nice way and trying to avoid heating up the ppl who have strong opinions. <img src='http://www.bigmangobar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I am definetly interested in member clubs, in case that I would finally get work in Thailand. All this sounds so great, I have some sort of longing for those men only clubs where guys smoke cigars and talk politics or shit. <img src='http://www.bigmangobar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Member clubs seems to be perfect men hideouts, only coupled with gorgeous women as bonus! <img src='http://www.bigmangobar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br /> <a href="http://www.bigmangobar.com/viewcomments/2623613564" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Mr. Mike</a></p>
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		<title>By: LeftofCenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeftofCenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>smitty -  no, they aren&#039;t all just like go go girls - that&#039;s my point.  to reiterate, one group is the hotter than average isarn girl who doesn&#039;t need to work in a go-go given her looks.  the other group consists of thai-thais most likely from bangkok from poor families.  they&#039;re both &quot;good girls&quot; if compared to a go-go girl i suppose in that they don&#039;t have to sell their bodies to the same extent.  i&#039;m guessing those two groups cover a good 90% of the women.  i seriously doubt you&#039;d find many middle class Thais of any ethnic background or any Thai chinese of any class except the very poorest (or from very dysfunctional families).

bkk22 - i think you hit the nail on the head.

mochalover - yes, if you aren&#039;t single (presumably this means you&#039;re either married or else in what your partner would consider a committed relationship) then you are better off sticking with the go-go girls or the ones from the gentlemen&#039;s clubs no question.  i just think that most expats who are here for the long haul will eventually tire of the bar scenes and want to find someone who&#039;s more compatible.  unfortunately, these are the hardest ones for most to meet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smitty &#8211;  no, they aren&#8217;t all just like go go girls &#8211; that&#8217;s my point.  to reiterate, one group is the hotter than average isarn girl who doesn&#8217;t need to work in a go-go given her looks.  the other group consists of thai-thais most likely from bangkok from poor families.  they&#8217;re both &#8220;good girls&#8221; if compared to a go-go girl i suppose in that they don&#8217;t have to sell their bodies to the same extent.  i&#8217;m guessing those two groups cover a good 90% of the women.  i seriously doubt you&#8217;d find many middle class Thais of any ethnic background or any Thai chinese of any class except the very poorest (or from very dysfunctional families).</p>
<p>bkk22 &#8211; i think you hit the nail on the head.</p>
<p>mochalover &#8211; yes, if you aren&#8217;t single (presumably this means you&#8217;re either married or else in what your partner would consider a committed relationship) then you are better off sticking with the go-go girls or the ones from the gentlemen&#8217;s clubs no question.  i just think that most expats who are here for the long haul will eventually tire of the bar scenes and want to find someone who&#8217;s more compatible.  unfortunately, these are the hardest ones for most to meet.<br /> <a href="http://www.bigmangobar.com/viewcomments/2904592035" rel="nofollow">View all comments by LeftofCenter</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mochalover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mochalover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with bkk22 and Smitty. 

I also think LOC is mostly right too, except just because the girls in the g-clubs and in the go-gos both end up costing money does not really make them the same at all. I find them to be very different most of the time, but now and again there is overlap.

I met a girl in a Soi 33 club last year that was classic g-club in her looks, attitude and experience. I have met a few girls in the g-clubs that would be right at home in Soi 33, some of the go-gos or even the up-market freelance scene (think Qbar).

For myself, the last thing I want is a relationship with a &#039;good Thai girl&#039;. Although a long time resident of Bangkok I am not single, and make that very clear to any girl I meet. I wouldn&#039;t want to get into the complications of dealing with the expectations of a good Thai girl and the resulting constraints on my lifestyle.

With even the g-club girls that I have had as girlfriends, they know and understand that nothing should get too serious or long term, and that I need my occasional diversions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with bkk22 and Smitty. </p>
<p>I also think LOC is mostly right too, except just because the girls in the g-clubs and in the go-gos both end up costing money does not really make them the same at all. I find them to be very different most of the time, but now and again there is overlap.</p>
<p>I met a girl in a Soi 33 club last year that was classic g-club in her looks, attitude and experience. I have met a few girls in the g-clubs that would be right at home in Soi 33, some of the go-gos or even the up-market freelance scene (think Qbar).</p>
<p>For myself, the last thing I want is a relationship with a &#8216;good Thai girl&#8217;. Although a long time resident of Bangkok I am not single, and make that very clear to any girl I meet. I wouldn&#8217;t want to get into the complications of dealing with the expectations of a good Thai girl and the resulting constraints on my lifestyle.</p>
<p>With even the g-club girls that I have had as girlfriends, they know and understand that nothing should get too serious or long term, and that I need my occasional diversions.<br /> <a href="http://www.bigmangobar.com/viewcomments/1512262913" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Mochalover</a></p>
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		<title>By: bkk22</title>
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		<dc:creator>bkk22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I said every now and then I meant going there 2-3 times a month, not that I like the service and girls every now and then. Sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I said every now and then I meant going there 2-3 times a month, not that I like the service and girls every now and then. Sorry<br /> <a href="http://www.bigmangobar.com/viewcomments/619576629" rel="nofollow">View all comments by bkk22</a></p>
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		<title>By: bkk22</title>
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		<dc:creator>bkk22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a main difference between a gogo and g-club is this. A gogo may have a handful of good looking girls and they are going to get taken early. G-clubs will be 95% really hot girls. You choose who you want and what you want to drink. No pushiness, no pressure. 

They are what they are and I think they both serve different purposes. If you want to pump and dump then go to a gogo. If you want to hang out with gorgeous women, drink and watch some bands then go to a g-club. My friends and I go to the g-clubs, not to pick up girls but rather to get  drunk as hell and just party with the girls. They are always more friendlier and easier to talk to then the standard &quot;what&#039;s your name?&quot; &quot;where you from?&quot;.

As has been said before Bangkok is great because you can hit both in one night. go to a g-club party and have fun then go to Spicy for a pick up. 

However, I think g-clubs are for people that either
   1) live here
   2) are visiting friends that live here

I don&#039;t see them being as much fun for someone just visiting for a week. I like the service, the girls and the entertainment they offer every now and then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a main difference between a gogo and g-club is this. A gogo may have a handful of good looking girls and they are going to get taken early. G-clubs will be 95% really hot girls. You choose who you want and what you want to drink. No pushiness, no pressure. </p>
<p>They are what they are and I think they both serve different purposes. If you want to pump and dump then go to a gogo. If you want to hang out with gorgeous women, drink and watch some bands then go to a g-club. My friends and I go to the g-clubs, not to pick up girls but rather to get  drunk as hell and just party with the girls. They are always more friendlier and easier to talk to then the standard &#8220;what&#8217;s your name?&#8221; &#8220;where you from?&#8221;.</p>
<p>As has been said before Bangkok is great because you can hit both in one night. go to a g-club party and have fun then go to Spicy for a pick up. </p>
<p>However, I think g-clubs are for people that either<br />
   1) live here<br />
   2) are visiting friends that live here</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see them being as much fun for someone just visiting for a week. I like the service, the girls and the entertainment they offer every now and then.<br /> <a href="http://www.bigmangobar.com/viewcomments/619576629" rel="nofollow">View all comments by bkk22</a></p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOC - You make some valid points as to a possible breakdowns at the member clubs when it comes to classifying the women but no way do they fall into only those 2 categories. Sure some do but even the one I am hanging with right now does not fit into those categories and nor do her 2 friends.

I don&#039;t think they are just like go go girls for one simple reason - they are not dealing with the go go scene day and and day out. Many are more educated as well but not all.

I am not saying the member clubs are where to find your Thai sweetheart but if people are out partying and enjoy the scene then for sure the member clubs are a different experience.

yes - one could meet a middle class Thai girl and that is always an option. Although the one nice thing about meeting the girls in the member clubs is they probably understand ones lifestyle a little more when it comes to going out and partying. Some of my friend who have settled down with the nice middle class Thai girls have basically seen their going out and partying days come to an end. Not as a general rule of course but just some anecdotal observations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOC &#8211; You make some valid points as to a possible breakdowns at the member clubs when it comes to classifying the women but no way do they fall into only those 2 categories. Sure some do but even the one I am hanging with right now does not fit into those categories and nor do her 2 friends.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think they are just like go go girls for one simple reason &#8211; they are not dealing with the go go scene day and and day out. Many are more educated as well but not all.</p>
<p>I am not saying the member clubs are where to find your Thai sweetheart but if people are out partying and enjoy the scene then for sure the member clubs are a different experience.</p>
<p>yes &#8211; one could meet a middle class Thai girl and that is always an option. Although the one nice thing about meeting the girls in the member clubs is they probably understand ones lifestyle a little more when it comes to going out and partying. Some of my friend who have settled down with the nice middle class Thai girls have basically seen their going out and partying days come to an end. Not as a general rule of course but just some anecdotal observations.<br /> <a href="http://www.bigmangobar.com/viewcomments/62563103" rel="nofollow">View all comments by smitty</a></p>
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		<title>By: farangsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>farangsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 08:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is this &quot;Little Women&quot;-formula you are talking about? Where does it come from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this &#8220;Little Women&#8221;-formula you are talking about? Where does it come from?<br /> <a href="http://www.bigmangobar.com/viewcomments/1726370042" rel="nofollow">View all comments by farangsay</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leftofcenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leftofcenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 08:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For middle class Thai Thais, then I&#039;d probably agree.  For middle class Thai Chinese, then no.  The parents seem to have the foresight to prepare for their own old age instead of becoming a burden on their children.  Of course, those are the hardest ones for foreigners to get, and you won&#039;t find them at go go bars or gentlemen&#039;s clubs.  For longer term expats, it&#039;s less of a problem (again, presuming you look decent, are age appropriate for the girl and have a respectable job).  My girl is eight years younger than me (I&#039;m 35, she&#039;s 27) and that&#039;s about as big of a difference the families will accept (it seems they follow the &quot;Little Women&quot; formula of 1/2 your age plus 7, thus a 40 year old guy is suitable for a 27 year old, but nothing younger).  Again, this is just my experience after being here for five years.  Others may have different opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For middle class Thai Thais, then I&#8217;d probably agree.  For middle class Thai Chinese, then no.  The parents seem to have the foresight to prepare for their own old age instead of becoming a burden on their children.  Of course, those are the hardest ones for foreigners to get, and you won&#8217;t find them at go go bars or gentlemen&#8217;s clubs.  For longer term expats, it&#8217;s less of a problem (again, presuming you look decent, are age appropriate for the girl and have a respectable job).  My girl is eight years younger than me (I&#8217;m 35, she&#8217;s 27) and that&#8217;s about as big of a difference the families will accept (it seems they follow the &#8220;Little Women&#8221; formula of 1/2 your age plus 7, thus a 40 year old guy is suitable for a 27 year old, but nothing younger).  Again, this is just my experience after being here for five years.  Others may have different opinions.<br /> <a href="http://www.bigmangobar.com/viewcomments/4016376494" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Leftofcenter</a></p>
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