UFC 104 Preview by Young Penfold
Posted by Young Penfold | Big Mango Bar, Blog, Posts, Reader Submissions | Posted on October 23rd, 2009
UFC 104 is this Saturday from the Staples Centre in LA, 7:00pm - In the last 2 UFC events, I’ve gone 11-1 with my predictions, so am sticking my balls out of the bath, and laying down some predictions. Pmmp thinks Machida is gonna run through Shogun, and has promised to treat me to a soapie WHEN I prove him wrong, as a way of an apology for questioning me on such matters. A fool and their money are easily parted. This’ll be like taking candy from a baby. Or in my case, money from a ladyboy
So here we go……………………….
Lyoto ‘The Dragon’ Machida vs Maurico ‘Shogun’ Rua (Light Heavyweight title)
I can see the bookies losing a bunch of cash on this. I’m picking Shogun here. Machida hasn’t lost a single round in his MMA career, and has looked devastating in his last 2 fights. He manraped a very tough Thiago Silva, putting him to sleep at 4:59 of the very first round, the he ‘beat the black’ out Rashad Evans to a stoppage in the 2nd round to capture the LHW crown at UFC 98, last May. Some MMA stat websites claim he only gets struck once every 2 and a half rounds.
Shogun, after smashing his way to the PRIDE 2005 Middleweight (205lb) Grand Prix, has looked a bit shit in the UFC it pains me to say. He looked terribly out of shape and sluggish in his UFC debut loss toForrest Griffin, and was doubly toss, in a TKO victory over the 184 year old Mark Coleman. Some speculated this was because back in PRIDE, there was no athletic commission who tested for substances, so everyone was pumping steroids in their arse. Most people have forgotten Shogun has come back from 2 major knee reconstructions which would/could/have ended other fighters careers, and taken fights at short notice, which would of hampered his fitness.
He came back and knocked Chuck Liddell out in the first round in his last fight, but looked like the Shogun of old, with quick sharp hands, and great footwork. This video of him kicking the snot out of former UFC LHW champion Quinton ‘Rampage’ Jackson, is a personal fave of mine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aXrKPyayhU
Shogun needs to play this one cool, and somehow try and get Machida in the clinch, and cut the Octagon off. Fuck knows how he will, but Im sticking with my boy on this one. If he doesn’t utilitse a sound gameplan, and gets wreckless, Rua will be getting knocked the fuck out, I just hope he doesn’t. I might cry as i do kind of have the hots for him. Don’t tell anyone I said that.
Shogun by TKO in the 4th
Young Penfold by Ground and Pound on the Nataree bath-whore Pmmp treats me to.
Cain Velasquez vs Ben Rothwell- Many pundits and fans are claiming Cain Valasquez as the next big thing in the UFC Heavyweight division. The Mexican fighter has a great amateur wrestling pedigree, and as proved he has bricks for hands, with 5 of his first 6 wins coming by TKO (only 1 of those went past the first round)
His last fight against Cheick Kongo, showed he has great takedowns and good ground n pound, but was unable to finish Kongo, who despite being a top UFC Heavyweight, is a total fucking retard on the ground. Cain got dropped with a few stiff jabs, but took Kongo down, and grounded out a decision
Rothwell is a grizzly veteran, with a stellar record of 30-6, with an impressive run in the now defunct IFL. Despite looking like a complete fucking IT dork, and the kid who would get his dick pinched and belly slapped raw in the changing rooms at school, hes a very game opponent with heavy hands and very good ground and pound
I just cant see Rothwells experience helping him against a far more aggressive, athletic and hungry fighter in Velasquez.
Rothwell should bring a pillow, because hes going to sleep. – Velasquez by KO in the 2nd round
Gleison Tibau Vs. Josh ‘The Dentist’ Neer - I have no interest in this fight whatsoever. Im sorry. Couldnt care less who wins, loses, lives or dies. I predict an absolute snoozer here
Neer is only 26, but already has accumulated an MMA record of 25-8-1. Neer likes to ‘stand and bang’ (but dont we all?) but is very competant on the ground. He does have some great previous wins over the likes of Din Thomas, Mac Danzig, Melvin Guillard, and he has also holds a unanimous decision win over Joe Stevenson.
Glesion is a huge Lightweight, who usually usually cuts from 180lbs to make the 155lb limit. This cat has thighs like fucking fire hydrants. I just dont like his style of fighting. His stand-up is sloppy, and I think he likes to lay n pray, and grind out decisions. I like Neer, but I just think Tibau is gonna smother him
The viewers should bring a pillow, because I think this fight will put you to sleep. Maybe you can borrow Ben Rothwells
Tibau by boring Neer to death. Or unanimous decision
Joe ‘Daddy’ Stevenson Vs. Spencer ‘The King’ Fisher - I have no reasoning as to why, but I hate Joe Stevenson with a passion. I wouldn’t dare say it to his face, as he rightfully so, would kick me to pieces and I have ne reasoning to hate him, but I do. Hes a very game fighter, but is a real ‘gatekeeper’ as he always seems to struggle with ‘elite’ opponents.
SPencer Fisher always has exciting fights, and lets it all hang out. (insert cock joke) and has won 2 ‘fight of the night’ honours for his 2 wars against Sam Stout.
Stevenson will wanna take this to the ground. If it goes there, thats where the fight will stay, but if Fisher keeps this standing, I can see a long night for Stevenson, with him eating a lot of punches. He also has a tendancy to get cut quite easily, and bleeds more than the Pattaya hooker I sodomised last week.
Joe Stevenson by TKO in the 3rd
Anthony ‘Rumble’ Johnson Vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida- Anthony Johnson is one of my personal favourite fighters. Hes is a huge and athletic welterweight. Fuck knows what his parents feed him, but I want some. Small children perhaps? He has great wrestling and sick knockout power (See knockouts over Kevin Burns, Tommy Speer and Chad Reiner) and is a huge prospect. GSP is a country mile ahead of the rest of the welterweight pack, but I think Johnson could, with time to develop, be a legit challenger.
Yoshida is only really famous to the casual fan for getting his dick knocked sniff by Josh Koscheck at UFC: Fight for the Troops, and he got taken out on a stretcher in a neck brace. He did beat Brandon Wolff in his last fight, but my Grandad could of beaten him, and he died 3 years ago. I just dont see any way Yoshida can take this fight from Johnson.
Johnson is very comfortable on his feet, and I think Yoshida is going to wake up wondering what the fuck happened
Johnson by KO whener he feels like it
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All I have to say is 11-2.
View all comments by pmmp
UFC 104 – that’s a flight number yes? From Tediumville to Yawn City?
View all comments by doctorbond
UFC is definitely going mainstream – this week’s South Park was all about it!
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/251887/
View all comments by Bangkok Bad Boy
man thats some serious thought process going into this. best of luck , lemme know when the winner throws a party , always up for a few free beers.
View all comments by maximus
I was surprised at just how heavy the bookies have gone on Machida as the favourite. Almost made me put some cash down on Shogun in case he pulls out the lucky punch…. almost.
I’m looking forward to the training sessions YP
Oh, you forgot – Joe Daddy will win by Guillotine Choke.
View all comments by FUMF
I will be in Reno – winning barfine money for Bangkok on NFL Games. I may take some UFC action just for kicks.
View all comments by Radicalron
PMMP – thats one thing I love about you – your sense of humour. Shogun is taking Machida DOWN to KnockOut Town
BBB – From what I read, there qwas a whole simpsons episode that focused on/heavily featured MMA/UFC
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/10/15/1087218/dana-white-talks-mma-on-the
FUMF – When Shogun removes Machida from concieousness (horrific spelling I know) I might even ‘double up’ at Nataree
View all comments by Young Penfold
And this is an “insider’s take on Thailand” how?
View all comments by Pattaya Ghost
Not too hard to get the connection to Thailand – all the best MMA guys have either done a stint training somewhere in Thailand, or have a Muay Thai teacher in their Gym. There is a Gym close by to me somewhere on Rachadapisek which has a website aimed primarily at getting guys out from the US for a few months of hard core training. Non AC rooms for about 3K baht per month (or something like that), and training 5 times per day. They promote some kind of package for US$1K or US$1.5 K per month – including meals, training & accommodation.
I should probably take a month off work and check in just so I can make a dent in my gut.
View all comments by FUMF
Bob Arum, Boxing promoter on MMA:
“UFC are a bunch of skinhead white guys watching people in the ring who also look like skinhead white guys. . . . ”
“Ninety percent of the people in the audience wear tattoos . . .”
“It’s horrible. Guys rolling around like homosexuals on the ground . . .”
Sounds like he is describing PMMP’s head on YM’s body.
Boxing’s popularity has been decreasing for a long time due to corruption, cheating, and poor organization.
I don’t really follow MMA, but it seems their popularity is soaring.
I wonder how their total revenues (gate and broadcast) are now comparing to boxing, and do the MMA promoters ‘manage’ their sport better than the boxing promoters?
View all comments by DJ
mmm… I logged on betfair and saw they have markets on those fights… Im in a bus wt iphone, can’t post a link; but it’s under the ‘martial arts’ section.
View all comments by katechon
@DJ: That just wreaks of fear from Arum. My guess is he will soon take a “if you can’t beat them, join them” approach and get into UFC himself. How dare he make fun of my head.
Boxing is done! Impossible to watch after you’ve tasted UFC. UFC is great right now and the management is doing a great job. Every month there are major events, and in between there are minor events and The Ultimate Fighter reality series, which is amazing. It will be ruined eventually though when greedy promoters like Arum and King get involved. Keep em out Dana, Keep em out.
View all comments by pmmp
…betting markets evaluate Rua’s chances at 25%… im tempted to wage 3k at 3/1…
View all comments by katechon
Good Lord katechon. Don’t go down in flames listening to YP. It’s the Machida Era! Do you really think that era is going to end after one fight to a has been like Rua? Not bloody likely.
View all comments by pmmp
nah… I’ll play it safe… I just put about 10k on Velasquez — for a smallish potential profit of 2.75 k…
View all comments by katechon
Do you really think Shogun’s cardio would last into the 4th round?
The only fight in mma that counts right now is Brock v Fedor and that’s not gonna happen anytime soon.
View all comments by Dancing Boy
Bkk gyms: I got yesterday life membership at CaliWow for 11.7 k. Every year have to renew it for 100 before expiration date. At Asok, the chick offered towels for 1 year at 1605.
View all comments by katechon
Here’s an interesting story…. I was heading down to Silom for a ‘half english’ when I took a wrong turn and ended up in the Star of Light. As I sipped my drink I got chatting to a fellow Brit who was gregarious without being boorish and it turned out he was a 15 year veteran. He talked about how there used to be curtains at the bar through which you poked your honourable member. I had heard this before but new to me was this: Above the till on a shelf there is a picture of a guy. His job was to pass up and down with a bucket of soapy water and wash your john thomas before the gals got down to business. So next time you’re passing, check out the photo and tip your hat to him.
Oh, I’m sorry, did I interrupt a thread about skinheads beating up more skinheads?
View all comments by doctorbond
first of all I’m not sure I would really want a soapie from pmmp.
Secondly my money’s on Machida
Its on live free here in the Phils so must remember to wake up early in sunday to catch it
View all comments by supermonger
@supermonger: You’re not sure? Damn it boy, you should be 100% certain on this one.
@Doc: Please do not litter this Post anymore with your on-topic-for-this-blog drivel.
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@Badboy,
The Simpson’s recently had Marge in the octogon. Cedric tatum must be upset.
View all comments by UFC 299 Champ
Any drink specials during the fight? Maybe Penfold will buy a round with his winnings?
I watch the UFC but do feel uncomfortable since it can often get very homo erotic. Much like wrestling. Can we have a warmup drink at Cascade to take the edge off before watching the UFC at the Mango?
View all comments by Mango Fanboy
@YP —- I’ll take Lyoto Machida, Josh Neer, Yoshiyuki Yoshida (slight upset), Cain Vasquez, Joe Stevenson.
Machida is a phenom… have u seen any footage of his fights in brazil… He will be too quick and strong for Rua who has had some hard battles and taken too much punishment before.
YP… I’ll be at the fight this weekend, so I’ll let joe know where to find ya..
GL
View all comments by GoodWife
@Goodwife: You really going? Jealous. You are so spot on about Machida, couldn’t have said it better myself. OAN, fender in town in a few days, you joining? I can’t handle him alone.
View all comments by pmmp
So, a boys night in at the Mango watching Homo Erotica, followed by a session on Silom Soi2! Think I will stay in England and watch 22 men kicking a bag of wind thanks.
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@BBB
The south park was wrestling not MMA?
View all comments by Omaplata
@ pmmp, if you can show the fights early Sunday afternoon that would be brilliant.
View all comments by FUMF
gay
View all comments by Canadian Boy
@Omaplata: What’s the difference?
View all comments by Bangkok Bad Boy
What time on Sunday. Don’t want to miss it. Myself and humantsunami will be attending.
View all comments by Imprint
@Canadian Tourist – Ever thrown on a set of 4oz gloves and tested just how gay MMA is? Maybe you dont need to answer
@Goodwife – How much the tickets set you back? The only punishment Rua has really taken, is on his shins, from shinning the likes of Alistar Overeem, Rampage Jackson etc in the face
@Dancing Boy – Shogun had great Cardio in PRIDE, and he looked like to old Shogun in his last fight against Liddell. If he loses, ill bare my arse in Siam Paragon
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@Pattaya Ghost – Well it beats another post about much much X,Y,Z costs in some hellhole Pattaya GoGo
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@YP: If Rua loses, rather, when Rua loses, it should be a punishment, so instead of showing your arse, you should not be showing it.
View all comments by pmmp
I prefer gett’N hit in the face with a set of 4oz tits <– Not gay
View all comments by Canadian Boy
I just caught the weigh-ins on the UFC website
Machida weighed in a 202.5lbs – Skinny bastard
When Rua has the belt, dont apologise to me, apologise to the Nataree girl whos back door I am gonna smash-in as a way of celebration
View all comments by Young Penfold
UFC MMA WTF?
I’m with you Docbond SOL all the way. Any truth in the rumour that YP has applied for the job behind the curtain?
View all comments by Riodon
@ R – he’d bloody love it, that’s the disturbing thing…
So when’s the Weekly appearing? I’ve drawn ‘March’ in the sweepstake…
View all comments by doctorbond
huuuueeyyy!
UFC rocks man. Woooooo!!!
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@doc: In a few hours…
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@BBB assuming you’re serious.
Wrestling is an olympic sport. In fact 2, Freestlye and Greco Roman. In Greco Roman you can only attack above the waist.
MMA is mixed martial arts – what they do in the UFC.
MMA is made up predominantly (currently at least) of Muay Thai, Brazillian jiu jitsu, Boxing and Wrestling. Althought, you also regulary see influences from judo, taekwondo and karate.
However, techniques from any art are allowed as long as they are within the rules.
View all comments by Omaplata
Someone just called my other 10k on Velasquez at 1.37 on betfair…
Wow…
So I’m now risking 20k for a potential profit of about 6.45k…. not too bad.
Make him sleep quickly, would you, Cain?
View all comments by katechon
Talking about the weigh-ins, how the fuck can a welterweight come in at 176 pounds? Does that mean YP is already 0-1 on the predictions?
View all comments by Dancing Boy
At the mango now. Will be back tomorrow.
View all comments by Imprint
@Dancing Boy – Anyone coming in so overweight for a fight is pretty shit form. You can usually forgive a pound or 2 slippage, but 6 Lbs (just under half a stone) is wank
I think its a case of Johnson being such a young athletic guy, hes kind of ‘outgrown’ the WW division
Hes been fined 20% of his fight purse, although im not sure if this will also exclude him from any potential ‘fight/submission/knockout’ of the night bonuses
Gegard Mousasi had the same problem at Middleweight, where at such a young age, he started to fill out more
View all comments by Young Penfold
So what were you saying YP?
View all comments by The Heckler
thanks for the betting inspiration, YP. I wouldn’t have 6k of soapie money from Velasquez if it were not for that post of yours…
View all comments by katechon
I’m too lazy to compile the results. Who has the best record calling this one? Pmmp or Penfold?
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Canadian Boy said: “I prefer gett’N hit in the face with a set of 4oz tits <- Not gay"
@Canadian Boy – Getting hit in the face with Lyoto Machida's 4 oz titties <- gay.
UFC104 complete shite. Dana White could hardly spit out that joke of a decision.
View all comments by Mango Fanboy
@UFC299: I only called the Lyoto win. Have to give props to Penfold though without a doubt. Scampering Jack put in a spoiler comment earlier but it was spot on. He said that Penfold pretty much nailed every fight, including the Lyoto fight. Lyoto was an easy pick. We can debate if Rua actually won, but no matter, it was amazing what he did against a fighter that never lost a round before, and Penfold calling it was pretty impressive. Lyoto still has the belt and Penfold is 0-1 against me, but still.
View all comments by pmmp
**SPOILER***
Bit of a let down of a fight .. I wanted to see Machida knock the smile off Rua’s ugly face .. lol.. but none the less my boy won.
Back in LoS in 44 days … woo .. staying 1 month this time
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@pmmp: “Lurker here”, enjoyed meeting you yesterday. Good fun at your bar and you will be seeing more of me. Thanks for the UFC action! Really cool to finally meet you and many of the other Dudes too.
@YP: Good call on the fight and yes you (and more importantly Rua) did get a bit robbed. Good fun meeting you too.
@NurseRon (alias “Love Nurse”): Looks like you were on your way for a good night the way (and with who) you left. Hope you had fun.
@Paul: Thanks for playing pool with my GF. She really enjoyed it.
@Charles: Good to meet you and Paul. Let’s hang out soon.
View all comments by Bangkok Wildcat
Im lost for word. An absolute cunt of a decision.
I dont know what those judges were sipping, but I dont want any of it. Shogun pressed the action, was more aggressive, had better octagon control, and kicked Machidas legs and ribs to shit. I had it 4-1 in terms of rounds, and 3-2 at a stretch
I thought the Bisping/Hamill decision was a shocker, but this one took the cake.
Cain looked impressive, and bullied Rothwell, but it was an early/bad call. Cain also proved, despite having fast and heavy hands, that he doesnt have that one-punch knockout power
View all comments by Young Penfold
A roar and a groan from the crowd, the gnashing of teeth, a cry of “we was robbed” all of that because YP dropped his pants again.
View all comments by THE MAN
Didn’t mean to leave a spoiler. Just saw the fights in real time and wanted to shout out Penfold.
At the shady joint I went to see the fights there was a good old ghetto local vs. suburban brawl. Tables turned over and such like. Cops showed up and wanted to arrest everyone. I was rooting for the locals, of course, but that’s my style.
Nice warm up to the ‘official’ fights.
Rothwell looked like a monster. Took a huge beating and still wanted more. What’s up with that?
View all comments by Scampering Jack Wilshere
Oh no. Machida won the decision? I left right at the end of the fight assuming Shogun won, which he did. I wanted to get away from the ghetto v. suburbs fights, but you tell me, would you rather fight Shogun or Machida after they finished? Machida could barely walk so I’d rather deal with him.
Horrific decision. Really, I’m shocked.
Penfold, you were done wrong. Sorry. At least Liverpool won today.
View all comments by Scampering Jack Wilshere
No worries SJW on the spoiler. As for the decision, if Lyoto was hurt so bad and could barely walk, why didn’t Shogun finish him in the 5th? Never leave it in the judges hands, especially when fighting the champion. Go out guns a blazing in the 5th and take his belt. Shogun didn’t.
View all comments by pmmp
Go in ‘guns blazing’ against Machida, and you get fucked up. Im sure Rua thought by round 5 it was in the bag, and to rest charging in and making a mistake, he’d continue to kick Machida some more
Just because you dont ‘knockout or submit’ the champ, doesnt mean you didn’t beat him. Even the biggest Machida ball-lickers cant deny the fact their boy got beaten
SJW – Your right about Rothwell. Although he wasn’t gonna win and was getting bullied, he still wanted more. Cain has pillows for hands though. Hes a great prospect, but really needs to find that KO power, as he wont beat like elite likes of Lesnar, Nogueira and Co. like that. If Rothwell was getting tagged by any other elite fighter, hed of woken up dead
View all comments by Young Penfold
Just a little something for the Machida fan-boys
http://fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html
View all comments by Young Penfold
At the press conference Rua said that the reason he didn’t push it all out at the end is because his corner told him that he was winning. So it is understandable that he wouldn’t try anything risky in case it cost him, what he believed was, his win.
Unfortunately for him Machida’s cornermen were telling Machida the same thing, and in the end they guessed correctly which way the wind was blowing over the judges’ heads.
I actually put the win down to the magic finger dance I did over my long island iced tea at the start of the match when YP rushed to the bog, which even though it was delayed coverage somehow did the time warp thingy and ensured the judges wore the right coloured glasses….
View all comments by FUMF
for a moment there I thought I was on the wrong website. yp, you are obviously a man of many talents…
katechon – I recently paid 12 something for life membership at ekkamai. can i ask, was yours a gold or black membership?
View all comments by Mr Carpet
@YP – Tickets were free (company owns a set of boxes at staples)
I must admit that Rua should have won the fight… (after watching the matches again at a buddies house the next day)
I was excited to watch the fights and getting tickets for free was an added bonus, but some free things are just not worth it… almost. First off the box is center court but second floor of box seating. I have seen Lakers, Clippers and Kings games and always enjoyed it… Well UFC is not a venue to watch here.
The view was shitty at best, and to make it even worse the Tv’s in the box were disabled so we couldn’t even watch the matches close up. So our cool seats ended up being duds, i say that if you are not within the first 10-15 rows you wont see much of the match. We did have a good vantage point because you are not blocked by the cage gate but without binoculars all u see are two figures moving around and know who is who by looking at the trunks of fighters because you can’t see any facial features.
I was pretty disappointed but stayed because it included free food and drinks, so in all we mostly partied drank ate and heard the crowd roar…. big night bust. If i paid for the tickets i would have been pretty pissed off.
GL
View all comments by GoodLife
I guess UFC was making a point. If you want to take a title you have to brawl and knock out the current champion. No good technical game plan that is executed well. No careful playing to the challenger’s strength(s). Just get in there, knock his head off, or go home. I think that makes UFC a bit less interesting, but at least everyone understands the deal now.
View all comments by Scampering Jack Wilshere
@Omaplata: I don’t think WWF is an olympic event.
Which one was B.A. Baracus in? WWF or UFC?
View all comments by Bangkok Bad Boy
Mr Carpet: she said I’ll get a diamond card when I’ll be back from Korat next week.
She never said anything about gold or black…
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