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		<title>By: sideshowBOB</title>
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		<dc:creator>sideshowBOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bb - what I am saying is no one should make any of these shows - not even the one that was made for the very reasons u mention.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bb &#8211; what I am saying is no one should make any of these shows &#8211; not even the one that was made for the very reasons u mention.<br />
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		<title>By: Pattaya Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pattaya Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just received an e-mail from Gavin Hill wtih the preview of Episode 4. It may actually stand a chance of &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; pissing off the authorities:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Bangkok Airways plane crashes into a control tower on Samui, killing the pilot and local Tourist Police Volunteers and British Consul respond.  Brit passengers are injured, some tell of their miraculous escape.  Programme contains never-before-seen video and photographs of the immediate aftermath and rescue effort. 

It&#039;s Songkran in Chiang Mai and mayhem on the roads - we&#039;re on the scene of another DUI incident involving backpackers on a motorbike - hurt, under the influence and no helmets.  And we visit a motorbike &#039;graveyard&#039; with Chiang Mai Tourist Police Volunteer Rob, from Manchester.

We&#039;re out on river patrol with the tooled up border police in Chiang Rai, looking for drug smugglers.  And this week&#039;s Thai jail inmate who gives us his account of life in the monkey house is Michael Connell from Manchester - he&#039;s doing a lot of time for drugs in Bangkwang. 

And what would Big Trouble In Thailand be without Howard who finds himself in the middle of a punch up between a Thai man and a group of deaf tourists.  DO NOT RESIST US!!

And tourist Police Assistant Paul Harrison is also in this week&#039;s programme, responding to a fire at an apartment block in Pattaya. 

Would you bet money on Thai Police giving two thumbs up to a second series?

Not in Thailand you wouldn&#039;t, of course - plenty of gamblers being nicked coming up later in the series!&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just received an e-mail from Gavin Hill wtih the preview of Episode 4. It may actually stand a chance of <b>not</b> pissing off the authorities:</p>
<blockquote><p>Bangkok Airways plane crashes into a control tower on Samui, killing the pilot and local Tourist Police Volunteers and British Consul respond.  Brit passengers are injured, some tell of their miraculous escape.  Programme contains never-before-seen video and photographs of the immediate aftermath and rescue effort. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s Songkran in Chiang Mai and mayhem on the roads &#8211; we&#8217;re on the scene of another DUI incident involving backpackers on a motorbike &#8211; hurt, under the influence and no helmets.  And we visit a motorbike &#8216;graveyard&#8217; with Chiang Mai Tourist Police Volunteer Rob, from Manchester.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re out on river patrol with the tooled up border police in Chiang Rai, looking for drug smugglers.  And this week&#8217;s Thai jail inmate who gives us his account of life in the monkey house is Michael Connell from Manchester &#8211; he&#8217;s doing a lot of time for drugs in Bangkwang. </p>
<p>And what would Big Trouble In Thailand be without Howard who finds himself in the middle of a punch up between a Thai man and a group of deaf tourists.  DO NOT RESIST US!!</p>
<p>And tourist Police Assistant Paul Harrison is also in this week&#8217;s programme, responding to a fire at an apartment block in Pattaya. </p>
<p>Would you bet money on Thai Police giving two thumbs up to a second series?</p>
<p>Not in Thailand you wouldn&#8217;t, of course &#8211; plenty of gamblers being nicked coming up later in the series!</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Billy Bangkok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Bangkok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ssB:  I know that&#039;s not what you said but even going after boiler rooms could have all sorts of unintended fallout.  What if the guy running the operation is connected?  Maybe he&#039;s got a few cops in his pocket or maybe some local politician is getting a cut.  Or maybe the guy is a sociopath.  If I was his life insurance salesman I would be upping my rates :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ssB:  I know that&#8217;s not what you said but even going after boiler rooms could have all sorts of unintended fallout.  What if the guy running the operation is connected?  Maybe he&#8217;s got a few cops in his pocket or maybe some local politician is getting a cut.  Or maybe the guy is a sociopath.  If I was his life insurance salesman I would be upping my rates <img src='http://www.bigmangobar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: sideshowBOB</title>
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		<dc:creator>sideshowBOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bb - I am pretty sure that is not what I said. okay - start with the boiler rooms then...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bb &#8211; I am pretty sure that is not what I said. okay &#8211; start with the boiler rooms then&#8230;
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		<title>By: Billy Bangkok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Bangkok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ssB:  Do you really hate Gavin that much that you want to see him dead?

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ssB:  Do you really hate Gavin that much that you want to see him dead?</p>
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		<title>By: sideshowBOB</title>
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		<dc:creator>sideshowBOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7 - great points but the show is hardly about the real scams in thailand. I would be all for them going after the known scams. they should start with the police.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7 &#8211; great points but the show is hardly about the real scams in thailand. I would be all for them going after the known scams. they should start with the police.<br />
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		<title>By: Seven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all the brouhaha, I decided to give the show a third chance.  I was put off by the editing and narration on the first couple tries, and that criticism stands.  But the footage itself is good work.  This is a small sample of the transparency that Thailand needs to become a better place, as seen here:
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/24374/jet-ski-operators-ordered-to-buy-insurance
I hope they cover the gem scam in a future episode.  The same guy is in front of the same gate outside of Wat Phra Kaew every day, lying to every farang that walks by and pushing them into waiting tuk-tuks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all the brouhaha, I decided to give the show a third chance.  I was put off by the editing and narration on the first couple tries, and that criticism stands.  But the footage itself is good work.  This is a small sample of the transparency that Thailand needs to become a better place, as seen here:<br />
<a href="http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/24374/jet-ski-operators-ordered-to-buy-insurance" rel="nofollow">http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/24374/jet-ski-operators-ordered-to-buy-insurance</a><br />
I hope they cover the gem scam in a future episode.  The same guy is in front of the same gate outside of Wat Phra Kaew every day, lying to every farang that walks by and pushing them into waiting tuk-tuks&#8230;
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		<title>By: Pattaya Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pattaya Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who like YouTube, here&#039;s are the 4 parts of episode 3.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=090GQDat1X8

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYOZKK7BFr0

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ_Yxrscmr4

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U2hVHV8zic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who like YouTube, here&#8217;s are the 4 parts of episode 3.</p>
<p>Part 1<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=090GQDat1X8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=090GQDat1X8</a></p>
<p>Part 2<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYOZKK7BFr0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYOZKK7BFr0</a></p>
<p>Part 3<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ_Yxrscmr4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ_Yxrscmr4</a></p>
<p>Part 4<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U2hVHV8zic" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U2hVHV8zic</a>
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		<title>By: wineguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>wineguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come to think of it the 200 Brits dying sounds like lemmings off a cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come to think of it the 200 Brits dying sounds like lemmings off a cliff.
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		<title>By: wineguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>wineguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night, despite my better judgement, that and being stood up by the French chic I&#039;ve been er em, improving foreign relations with, I relented and watched this drivel. 

The moral of the story as I see it is:

1) Don&#039;t rent a jet ski. Why the squadies weren&#039;t told that they would be ripped of by their so called boss who seemed to know all about it, a trumped up NCO, I don&#039;t know. Smells of set up. The face to face argument seems staged. 

2) Don&#039;t go anywhere near a full moon party, and don&#039;t let your boyfriend hand you the incriminating evidence, and piss off scott free, and chuckle about it in your presence. And obviously don&#039;t have the stuff in the first place. If you are thick enough that you don&#039;t know it&#039;s a bad idea to have it in Thailand then you shouldn&#039;t be allowed to have a passport. That would make the place a lot nicer for the rest of us. 

3) Always carry enough folding to pay off any local official with Baht signs in his eyes. 

4) And for gods sake lock up the Australian moron and give us all some peace. I feel sorry for his dad. 

5) Don&#039;t watch British reality TV. British reality is depressing enough, when it&#039;s transported elsewhere it&#039;s just down right terrifying. Did they really say 200+ Brits die in Thailand every year, WTF!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night, despite my better judgement, that and being stood up by the French chic I&#8217;ve been er em, improving foreign relations with, I relented and watched this drivel. </p>
<p>The moral of the story as I see it is:</p>
<p>1) Don&#8217;t rent a jet ski. Why the squadies weren&#8217;t told that they would be ripped of by their so called boss who seemed to know all about it, a trumped up NCO, I don&#8217;t know. Smells of set up. The face to face argument seems staged. </p>
<p>2) Don&#8217;t go anywhere near a full moon party, and don&#8217;t let your boyfriend hand you the incriminating evidence, and piss off scott free, and chuckle about it in your presence. And obviously don&#8217;t have the stuff in the first place. If you are thick enough that you don&#8217;t know it&#8217;s a bad idea to have it in Thailand then you shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to have a passport. That would make the place a lot nicer for the rest of us. </p>
<p>3) Always carry enough folding to pay off any local official with Baht signs in his eyes. </p>
<p>4) And for gods sake lock up the Australian moron and give us all some peace. I feel sorry for his dad. </p>
<p>5) Don&#8217;t watch British reality TV. British reality is depressing enough, when it&#8217;s transported elsewhere it&#8217;s just down right terrifying. Did they really say 200+ Brits die in Thailand every year, WTF!
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