Grey Area by On Nutter
Posted by On Nutter | Blog, Reader Submissions | Posted on December 3rd, 2008
While this site’s followers can disagree about pretty much anything, there is one undisputed truth: even Quasimodo could get laid in Bangkok if in possession of a well-stocked wallet and a pulse.
Talking about ‒pulling” from gogo bars is ridiculous and self-deluding. Yes, the quality of entertainment provider and her service can all be influenced by the punter’s demeanour, age and dress sense, but ultimately the girls follow the money. If you doubt that, sit in Big Dogs at the entrance to Nana Plaza and compare the quality of the girls leaving with the Japanese with those hooking up with farangs. ‒Mai chop Yeepun” must be the most barefaced lie in the bargirls’ lexicon.
Still, there’s more than enough talent to keep everyone happy – so much so that, after a while, the sexpat tires of shooting fish in a barrel. In my case, it took slightly more than three years. I stopped barfining from gogo bars because better value and attitudes can be found elsewhere, though I still enjoy the atmosphere, fun and downright lechery of chrome pole palaces. At the beer bars and freelance venues, I started becoming picky, rejecting potential bed partners for the slightest reason – thighs too large, skin too dark/light, flawed teeth or annoying laughs. As getting laid is so easy in Bangkok, I decided that not getting laid was more of a challenge.
I started barfining girls and taking them out for whisky-fuelled evenings at Thai nightclubs while insisting that they control their animal urges and not press me to take them to my apartment later. ‒I know I am a sexy man but no boom boom – sorry,” I would tell them. They managed to conceal their disappointment behind beaming Thai smiles.
Friends became concerned by my behaviour. One took me to one side and told me that celibacy was unacceptable in the City of Angels. He said my boredom with the P4P scene was common among long-term residents and recommended finding a good girl to get the juices flowing again. I told him that the Thai girls in the office where I had worked for more than two years would not go near farangs because they assumed, quite rightly, that we were all whoremongers. ‒Try the internet,” he advised. ‒Findloveasia.com is free and there are loads of nice women on there.”
So I did. And within one week I had received about a dozen marriage proposals from 20-year-old Filipinas, an offer from a Nigerian woman to share her vast fortune on payment of an administration fee, three rather desperate appeals for matrimony from middle-aged Isaan rice farmers and a strange poem from a loopy American who looked as though she lived on a trailer park with a cult devoted to eating their children.
Things were not looking good.
I quickly amended my profile to point out that only Thais need apply while searching the Bangkok area for employed, single and preferably childless women under the age of 35. Eventually, I drew up a shortlist of six, but email communication proved difficult because of their poor English. It was practically impossible to move beyond the ‒how are you today?” stage.
I lost interest in the site until I was contacted by a 33-year-old divorcee who looked promising. She had a full-time job with a government agency, spoke reasonable English and seemed keen to meet up as soon as possible. A date was arranged at a Sukhumvit restaurant, even though that meant an hour’s journey from her home on the edge of the city.
Purely by coincidence, I ended up barfining a girl from a beer bar the night before my date. This girl was lovely. She dressed well, had no tattoos, didn’t look like a hooker and was pleasant company as we made a tour of a few bars. Back at my apartment, she was happy to stay until 3pm the next day and provided three rounds of great sex. My faith in P4P had been partially restored.
So on to my date. Her name was Psycho (not her real name). She was no stunner but definitely doable and with an enticing glint in her eye.
‒You not same same picture,” she said as we knocked back a few cocktails (I recently started a well-paid job and am trying to stop chasing the happy hours).
‒It’s definitely me – that picture was taken in England a year ago,” I replied.
‒In picture you look pompooey and old.”
‒Well, I am pompooey and old.”
‒No, you look younger and slimmer in real life. You are lovely.”
Good. She appeared to like me, but she seemed too forward for a good girl. After her third cocktail, she fixed me with a lecherous look, leaned over and grabbed my crotch. While that move instantly disqualified her from being the next Mrs On Nutter, it promised to be an interesting evening.
We moved on to a bar with coyote dancers. Psycho seemed fascinated with them and asked me which one I liked. I said they all looked rather charming. As she knocked back a Bacardi breezer, she pressed the point and asked which one I wanted. Then she disappeared and returned with a dancer for me. I apologised to the bemused coyote for my friend’s drunken actions.
Things got worse. As she gradually lost control of her spatial awareness, she started falling against people seated nearby. It almost seemed deliberate, as though she wanted to start a fight. One dancer glared at her after being bumped for about the fifth time. ‒Why she angry me?” demanded Psycho as she forced my hand up her blouse on to her breasts. ‒I boxing her.” For the first time, I noticed she had a couple of concealed tattoos. It was time to leave.
Although it wasn’t even midnight, I could not risk taking this ticking time-bomb into another bar. I said I was going home. She said she was going with me. Back at my place, she was stripped and ready for action more quickly than a mamasan pocketing a barfine. I was feeling angry at her earlier behaviour and was not really in the mood. Junior, who had seen action three times in the previous 24 hours, voted with his feet by refusing to rise to the occasion. Reluctantly, after an attempted blow-job, Psycho accepted defeat and fell into a drunken sleep.
My attempts at sleep were wrecked by the regular calls and texts she took from her family demanding to know her whereabouts. At 7am, she announced she had to go home, but it was clear she wanted to get to know me better before departing. This time Junior was up for some action and I managed to consummate our rather bizarre relationship.
The events of those two successive nights have brought home to me how nothing is black and white in Thailand. The so-called bad girl was really sweet while the so-called good girl was dangerously bad. Was Psycho a sex-starved divorcee or a former nightlife worker? My money is on both scenarios. Will I see her again? Certainly not.
My experiment with internet dating was in good faith. I wanted the full deal: a two-year, celibate courtship, a demand for an extravagant dowry, the purchase of a house in my Thai wife’s name, the inevitable divorce when I discovered she was married to a motosai driver, financial ruin after losing all my assets and the chance to write about my downfall in a Stickman reader’s submission.
Instead I got a riotous night out with a lunatic and a free shag. Bangkok sucks.
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“normal” girls won’t go anywhere near sukhumvit as they are too embarrassed of that area. Drinking alcohol? no way. Even going on a first date without a chaperone is pushing it.
I know endless amounts of “normal” girls that are college educated, still live at home and many have never had a boyfriend. The possibilities here are endless. I’m sad there is only one of me becausing letting these girls remain single is a sin.
View all comments by rainbow
interesting experience and truly a grey area girl, although she seems a bit more naughty than nice (unless she was indeed a bit psycho as you suggest).
good girl: no money was exchanged in the morning and that the calls from “family” seemed legit (not from an angry boyfriend demanding his cut of the sleepover fee)?
bad girl: the tats, crotch grabs, drunken stupor, willingness to go home on first date and to a coyote bar.
View all comments by generous sponsor
“bad girl: the tats, crotch grabs, drunken stupor, willingness to go home on first date and to a coyote bar.”
Sometimes bad is good!!!
View all comments by Knight Rider
My own experience with “good girls” is that Sukhumvit is really off limits. But that’s my experience.
Also, I’ve yet to meet a “nice girl” with tats…ymmv.
Hope all you expats are OK given all the shit going on in BKK.
View all comments by The Asian Badger
I thought this article was about a new political party color. This sucks.
Curious, has she been in touch since? She’s definitely been in the biz but it would seal the deal if you got the pounding of sms/calls following.
View all comments by pmmp
perhaps she was just a sex addict. there are good girls with tattoo’s in bangkok but one must have cunning and decent pimp skills in order to see these hidden gems.
nothing beats a sweet and shy girl willing to experiment. a girl you can take home to mom but will leave you sore the next day in places you never knew you could be sore. whats so bad about that?
View all comments by UnCochinoWetback
rain – no offense dude but u are way off
too lay such mandates down you would need to define good girl. U mean stuck up hi so girls might not go to suk? they do drink buddy. Ever been to thong lo or ekkamai
it is silly to brand the good girls and then to say where they will go and what they will do.
I kind of get what u mean but are creating such a false black and white judgment and deciding what a good girl is or is not. Most of the “good girls” are pretty lame in the sack anyway.
either way one would have to define good girl to make such statemants
ab – there are some with tats but then again what is a good girl?
View all comments by sideshowBOB
I’m beginning to think you have a better chance at a relationship with a 22 year old go-go dancer a month into her new career than you do a supposedly normal Thai girl over 27 or so. Way too much emotional baggage.
View all comments by Billy Bangkok
On Nut — Great read. Your writing creds are showing through (and that’s a good thing.)
My guess is she’s a former beer bar girl. Too many things point to it, but not necessarily the tats.
Let me tell a true story about good/bad girls and then ask ssB and the others out there.
There’s a woman (27) who used to work for me (I have a non-nightlife company). Went to uni up in Isaan. Great English (used to be a DJ on an English-lanaguge radio station here.) Her parents are both Thai police with her mother being a high-ranking police trainer.
She’s absolutely covered in tattoos.
When she worked in the retail shop (we have a couple offices) we made her wear long sleeves to cover the tatts. Combined with big frizzy hair, braces and bizarre punkish glasses, she looks like a bargirl.
She’s not. And never has been.
She left the company last year and she and I had a 3-month fling afterward. So I do know her very well. I know that she’s only interested in farang and has had a number of farang boyfriends and short-lived quick-start sexual flings with farang tourists.
But I also know she’s never taken a baht (directly) for sex. That doesn’t mean she’s not called a boyfriend or fling weeks or months later and asked for some help “pay for room” etc. But she reviles the idea of working even as a cashier in a bar, does not go to go-go bars and (except for me) has never gone with a guy over 40.
So, good girl or bad girl?
I think there is a whole segment of the Thai female population — albeit a small segment — who fixate on farangs and have adopted a lot of Western traits and mores, including tattoos. Back home we might simply call women like her and On Nut’s girl “sluts,” but I think the world is too stuck on labels instead of simply enjoying the experience.
View all comments by Pattaya Ghost
pg – great points
she is just a worldly girl in my opinion
I know tons of farangs in the world who are not prostitutes – if that is the label we are using to denote non good girl – that have tats, piercings and love sex
u mean to tell me that there are no thai girls like this? there are tons.
there again – what is a good girl in the thai sense?
never had sex?
never drank?
only love thai guys?
I mean this is not a label easily applied
is it the white skinned bangkok girls who live sheltered lives that are good girls?
for me good is more to with behavior, their outlook on life and their background
can a bar girl be a good girl? I guess that is up to some people but I have met nice bargirls who are better to be around than a stuck up hi so girl.
I think for some people they are trying to mean they dont want a bar girl or a p4p girl. But one cannot say that all non p4p girls are good girls. no way
this is subjective – just like beauty to some extent
pg – can I have her number BTW?
View all comments by sideshowBOB
@on nutter: for me “pulling” doesn’t mean anything else than “choosing a girl you like and taking her out of the bar for a limited period of time, after having paid a BF and agreed on a substantial fee for her”.
How would you say that in short in “proper English”?
View all comments by Suk Psycho
Here’s the bottom line, they are all good girls and if it’s warm and wet it’s wonderful. Sadly the larger % of them are ate up with a lot of Hollywood or mothers family values, which equates to plain bullshit. If she’s no good for you dump her immediately and if she’s buck toothed, knocked kneed with light or dark skin, a tat on her nose and a three inch scar on her cheek and still turns you on. Be happy don’t worry! Just keep her hidden!
View all comments by The Man
If we start with the labels we are no different than the Thai society which created this sense of good/bad. Good girls don’t party, don’t have sex, don’t drink, etc. A lot of hi-so thai girls will pretend this is true for their parents and their parents will believe simply for the fact that they can tell all their other hi-so friends that their daughter is a good girl. However, if you have been to thonglor/ekkmai or happen to know a good amount of hi-so girls you will know most of this is just a charade to keep face. In reality these girls are getting smashed on the weekend, hooking up with guys, smoking, doing drugs, etc.
It may be more common for a “good girl” to act polite and not sleep with you the first time out, but this again is about saving face. I’ve had significant experience where the girls are “I’m so polite, blah blah” next thing you know she’s at your place slobbing the knob and begging for it before she drives her car back to her parents and tells them she was eating i-berry with her friends. It’s usually the girls who have to tell you they are polite who are the most aggressive behind closed doors. There is some American rap song that says, “I want a lady on the street and a freak in the bed.” I think that sums it up pretty well at least from my perspective.
View all comments by bkk22
SP – Werewolf defined exactly that as an “Emotionally Dangerous Financial Transaction”.
View all comments by Radicalron
The thing about the Japanese is off. Not tooting my own horn, but I have never had a problem pulling.
View all comments by PB
the whole good/bad girl debate is pretty moot, as most girls fall between the two extremes, such that your personal tastes, cultural biases and past experiences are the deciding factors.
on one extreme there is a particular 28 year old who has only had one boyfriend, never had sex, lives with her very wealthy parents, doesn’t drink, enjoys baking and yoga, doesn’t lie, and is waiting for someone to sweep her off her feet. regardless of your background, it would be hard to label her as anything but “good”. i’d marry this girl but she’s just too good.
View all comments by generous sponsor
bkk – agreed. the label is so silly especially since it is subjective.
gs – so true. the problem I have had with the real good girls is they are kind of boring and not so much fun on the sack. i guess if one is looking to get married, be normal and have kids – she fits the bill.
View all comments by sideshowBOB
@”But I also know she’s never taken a baht (directly) for sex. That doesn’t mean she’s not called a boyfriend or fling weeks or months later and asked for some help “pay for room” etc.”
this sounds like the very definition of a prostitute to me. i have never had a real girlfriend or any female i have known who is not a prostitute ask for one shiny penny from me for anything. and i have had quite a few girlfriends around the world.
maybe i simply look cheap and they’ve been afraid to ask!
View all comments by jonbanger
I think in our discussion of the good girl/bad girl appellation we are missing a diamond in the rough in this post
“an offer from a Nigerian woman to share her vast fortune on payment of an administration fee”
I’ve gotten these emails as well and numbers don’t lie, I mean its only 100,000 US to get 30 million! Another girl says I only need to keep the money in my bank account for one day and I get HALF! How can you lose!
Now while you guys are all dealing with these girls in BKK, I’m gonna be chillin’ with my Nigerian princess and 30 million bucks! So long suckas!
View all comments by The Soi Lawyer
PB: We are all pleased you have no problem pulling. Do you have any problem getting a woman?
On Nut: I thought it as a good yarn. But fair dinkum, taking unknown wet ones to the stud room seems like a big punt. SSB & PmmP, its time you established a free try before you buy room in the vacant 3 hectare third story of the BMB.
Cameras not allowed as I still might bring my goat.
View all comments by WRECKS
Gotta agree with SSB here.
Just because a girl likes to drink and go home for some rocknroll on the first night doesnt mean shes whoring, or at least been a whore. This is the 21st century after all
Ive had a few one night stands with girls with tattoos and piercings, and when I’ve offered up even ‘taxi’ money in the morning, its been scoffed at, and even taken with slight offence.
@ Asian Badger – I was dating a filthy rich daddys girl who had 3 condos and 2 cars, who had 5 tattoos. Took me 2-3 weeks to get her in the sack, and when i did she was a fucking starfish. Dont think applying the tattoo rule here counts
View all comments by Young Penfold
Actually, I take back what I said about frequency of sms/calls being an indicator. I’ve been pounded worse in fact by non-p4p gals, especially the one’s I don’t want to see anymore. Who knows if she’s been in the biz. The only way to know for certain is to take her picture around to every beer bar and gogo to see if somebody recognizes her, or just believe whatever story turns you on the most.
View all comments by pmmp
yp – it only makes sense you would agree with me.
from experience – they gooder they are the worse they tend to be in bed.
View all comments by sideshowBOB
Generous sponsor: No money was requested or given in the morning. From pictures she showed me and from the way she spoke about her family and job, I am sure she was telling the truth and that the calls were from her family.
pmmp: No contact from her since.
Suk: In a British context, ‘pulling’ implies using a certain charm to persuade a girl to go with you, not just paying a barfine. But the word might not have that connotation in American English.
On reflection, I am inclined to think she wasn’t a former bargirl. How many bargirls go on to work for a government agency? She said she lived with her family and rarely socialised. I think it was a rare chance for her to let her hair down and that the alcohol really made her go for it.
View all comments by On Nutter
The worst Ive ever been hounded on SMS/Call was by the receptionist at my old apartment who I was banging on a regular basis.
Left my phone in the locker at the gym one time and came back to 25+ missed calls and 5 SMSs from her, and she wasnt a whore……………. Although, I did spot her in Poseidon one time. But that doesnt count.
Im still on the hunt for a female tatooist with full sleeves and back pieces to make wifey material. Im thinking of a Thai Kat Von Dee. Shes gotta be filthy in the sack right?
View all comments by Young Penfold
WRECKS- Never.
View all comments by PB
‘…the most barefaced lie in the bargirls’ lexicon.’ Bargirls lie? Jing lor?
Good Girl? Bad Girl? Depends upon perception… At the SRT we’ve developed a simple method of determining G.G. or B.G.
Lets consider some possible variables and tabulate them on the post-coital abacus: 11pm or 3am? Degree of sobriety – by either party in the equation… your place? Her place? or short-time hotel? Crotch grab? Handjob? Bj? Rusty Trombone? Spit? Swallow? Is she more ‘Missionary’ than Kama Sutra? or the other way around? Speaking of the other way around, 3-Ring Circus? At any point, did you freak her out? IE that wide-eyed look of terror: ‘What the Hell are doing me?’ or that wide-eyed look of discovery (a.k.a. the Eureka Moment): ‘What the Hell are doing me?’ Did you have: Porn star comet-like finish? or Standard I’m-a-guy-I’ll-finish-anyway dribbler Finish? Cuddle? No cuddle? Lastly, were you able to part ways without incident?
Start with 100 points. Every answer that makes you smile in fond reminiscence, slide a blue bead to the left and add 10pts. Every answer that makes you cringe and shake your head, slide a red bead to the right, subtract 10pts. If you’re still weak in the knees, forget the math and call her back (or pass the number to pmmp).
View all comments by khlongwater
u mean it’s possible to get punani here WITHOUT paying for it?
who knew?
one of the funniest/most startling things I’ve heard recently is when at a movie with a young, totally good, wealthy Rangsit U girl (who shall we say I instruct) saw that I got an SMS from another girl and said “You give her money? How about me?”
Personally, I’d be suspicious if a girl departing my room DIDN’T leave with baht.
View all comments by jack dawson
KW – I did the maths over my morning coffee. bugger…better have another coffee and try again
View all comments by spats
Maybe she was shy about what to do and thought that was what farangs like. You know how they get bad advice from friends about how to date farangs.
View all comments by Young Royal
@on Nutter: Good or bad, she was certainly a fresh flavor for you? And we all must just learn to claim responsibility for boredom and deal! But may I ask, as one gentleman to another, WTF were you thinking when she fetched you a coyote dancer? Jackpot!!!!
or plan B could have been calling last nights treat and cooking up some horizon broadening life changing moments for all? That would have been different?
BTW great read! IMHO Somewhere between WW & BBB styles.
View all comments by nurseRon
NurseRon: To be honest, I was so uncomfortable with her behaviour in what is a reasonably upmarket bar that I did not know what to say to the coyote, other than apologise.
Somewhere between WW and BBB? WW describes himself as a long-term sex tourist and BBB is a lecherous pisshead. Yes, I think that’s a compliment.
View all comments by On Nutter
1) “After her third cocktail, she fixed me with a lecherous look, leaned over and grabbed my crotch. While that move instantly disqualified her from being the next Mrs On Nutter, it promised to be an interesting evening.”
Uh, I think that move, pulled on me, would make her a shoe-in for the next future ex-Mrs Debt Star!
2) In my experience, Korean, Turkish and Thai females that call themselves good are at least secretly longing to be bad, if not there already. Ladies from the above cultures who call themselves bad are usually the ones who end up with the most morale scruples in the end.
3) What the hell does “grey” mean? Is that some kind of a color…;-)
Debt Star
\Cold in Farangland today
\\Explains all the body fat on the trailer park lasses; insulation
View all comments by Debt Star
My definition of a “Bad Girl”
1. Does everything to win your “trust and you “give!
After “trust” is given and she moves in with you and as we all – everyting is now on your “dime”
1. She tries to isolate you from your friends (not good man)
2. Your house starts to become a mess
3. She starts to have her friends over everyday where she cooks for a couple of hours to feed to the “herd” – occurs everyday (you try to be nice) but after months you put a stop to it!
4. You put her in school – she drops out!
5. You put her into another school – she drops out!
6. After you end point 2 above – she cooks in the morning and then TAKES the food to her friend(s) house where they all eat…
7. You dinner starts arriving my a morotbike driver – she stops cooking!
8. She comes home so drunk her friends carry her in the house.
Now you start not to trust and she knows it !!!!!!!!!!! You have already caught her in too many lies….
9. She comes home at other times so drunk she opens the refrig door and sleeps with her head in the refrigerator!
10. She gets migraine headaches and boils water and sticks her fingers in the boiling water or her elbow; “as she says” get rid of the pain!
11. She takes the left over money from your pants everymorning – she never admits.
12. Her friends come to your house and tell you she cannot come home because she “owes” money for playing cards and you go “bail her out” so to speak from the local mafia!
13. Comes home “drunk” and gets angry and walks back into the room with a knife and wants to fight – I just knocked her out!
14. She starts not coming home for 3-4 days.
15. Police come to your house because she is in the middle of the street thworing fits.
16. You finally throw her out (literally) – Police come again!
17. She is gone and found a job at the Eden CLub – (NO LIE).
Good Girl – NONE OF THE ABOVE!
View all comments by JDH
@JDH: Sounds like quite a catch!
Just realised that I never got round to complimenting On Nutter on another fine contribution. Great stuff!
View all comments by Bangkok Bad Boy
I find ‘Tats’ or ‘Tramp stamps’ on Thai girls a sure sign of mental problems and in most non tribal societies are, for both men and women, a sure sign of lack of self esteem, low intelligence and usually criminality but in the case of thai girls they are an indicator of ‘self harming’ not dissimilar to minor acts of self mutilation with blades and glass etc. The first time i ever saw a Thai girl with tatoos was in Bahrain. I assumed she was yacusa and asked her about it. It had been some years since I had been to thailand and they were definitely not common in the early 90s. This poor girl was in a locked brothel situation, could not leave the seedy hotel where she had to take all customers including arabs and Asians. She had a poor contract. A lot of them do in The Middle East.I met another girl in Bahrain who was an ex Pattaya Bar girl and her vagina was tatooed as an open lotus flower. She was happier and was a freelancer. I asked one girl recently, in Bangkok,in a massage parlour when she had got her tatoo. Her answer? “When I was stupid cap”
And I am afraid there is a black/white dichotomy betweenn ‘good’ and ‘bad’girls but it is more useful to see them as ‘naughty girl’, Good girls don’t drink or smoke or go to clubs where whores, even hi so whores and uni prossies hang out. Just don’t call them bad girls, just naughty girls. The difference between these smoking, drinking, tatooed, so called available good girls is that they are less thai and more westernised. It is possible to ‘turn’ a good girl into a bad girl. Unpleasant men have been exploiting decent women for a long time. But that is the whole point of Thailand- you do not have to ruin a girl. But from my observations the Hi -so whores and uniprossies are not as nice, pleasant or good hearted as the so called bad girls who are often less judgemental and working hard to support their family and often do not smoke or drink. They sinmply have not had the priveleges of their Hi so whore sisters. Never had the chance to work for a company. If you want a ‘good’ girl it should be to marry her and build a life. If you want just sex just go with the ‘bad’ girls who are not in fact bad girls but just professional sex workers. As for the amoral Uni hookers, et al and the promiscuious priveleged girls who break thai norms they are just the usual shallow slappers who do not take money and have lost contact with themselves and their culture. We have them in all countries and they are usually snobbish, spoilt and judgemental self deceivers…..Most of the ones you meet in Bangkok seem to be Chinese not really Thai. They seem to have just invaded the country through asimilation and guess what? They represent the absolute oppression of darker skinned members of their country.
Regarding pursuing whiter girls in Starbucks: Has nobody noticed the irony of westernised asian pursuing pale skinned asian good girls to get a free fuck? His ranting hatred of darker skinned issan girls is probably a projection of his own self rejection.
View all comments by The Sandman
I thought we most anyway come for the bad YOUNG girls no relationship just boom-boom and unnatural acts only seen in a barn yard back home.
View all comments by Navion