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		<title>By: Young Penfold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Young Penfold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DJ - Im not just referring to the P4P areas. When I used to holiday here I used to love MBK as at every turn girls were smiling etc and giving off good vibes. Went MBK the other day with a friend and it was a completely different story.

1 main reason I believe and my friend agreed with me, is when you first get here, nearly all of the girls are attratctive and stunning compared to there swampdog white sisters in the west. I used to walk through MBK or most shopping centres here slack jawed at the vast quantity of stunners. But after living here (and i think most will agree) your tastes change and become far more picky. DOnt get me wrong the place is still loaded with beauties compared to your local at home, but i tend to make eye contact with far less girls now. For example i went to Rainbow 4 a few weeks back and wouldnt of parted with my cash for more then 2-3 girls there at best. Far less eye contact and stunned looks result in far less smiles. Simple maths. Plus if your smiling at 6/7 out of 10ers on the looks scale your going to recieve a better reaction then from a 9/10er

Just my 2 satang worth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DJ &#8211; Im not just referring to the P4P areas. When I used to holiday here I used to love MBK as at every turn girls were smiling etc and giving off good vibes. Went MBK the other day with a friend and it was a completely different story.</p>
<p>1 main reason I believe and my friend agreed with me, is when you first get here, nearly all of the girls are attratctive and stunning compared to there swampdog white sisters in the west. I used to walk through MBK or most shopping centres here slack jawed at the vast quantity of stunners. But after living here (and i think most will agree) your tastes change and become far more picky. DOnt get me wrong the place is still loaded with beauties compared to your local at home, but i tend to make eye contact with far less girls now. For example i went to Rainbow 4 a few weeks back and wouldnt of parted with my cash for more then 2-3 girls there at best. Far less eye contact and stunned looks result in far less smiles. Simple maths. Plus if your smiling at 6/7 out of 10ers on the looks scale your going to recieve a better reaction then from a 9/10er</p>
<p>Just my 2 satang worth
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		<title>By: Riodon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riodon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PE - Amazing !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PE &#8211; Amazing !
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		<title>By: Riodon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riodon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WW - Good stuff, as is normal for you. 
PE - Amasing, good for you and I hope everything works out. 
Smitty - What about that kitchen???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WW &#8211; Good stuff, as is normal for you.<br />
PE &#8211; Amasing, good for you and I hope everything works out.<br />
Smitty &#8211; What about that kitchen???
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		<title>By: Combover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Combover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@smitty: not sure I want to be so public about my impending pain, but I&#039;ll think about it. Just getting the plans drawn up and will wait for the rains to subside so it&#039;ll be a while anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@smitty: not sure I want to be so public about my impending pain, but I&#8217;ll think about it. Just getting the plans drawn up and will wait for the rains to subside so it&#8217;ll be a while anyway.
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ww - really. keep on plugging. :)

j - I agree with you. It is not always about looks for mannerisms and working it. Some people just don&#039;t want to work it. Which is no problem. Leaves more for me.

My take has always been in areas with p4p is to chase non p4p and if I get lucky. great. If not there is always a fallback position. NO blue balls or self love around these parts.

Even better. Have a gf, gun for some side salad and still enjoy p4p. Its asia. Thats why we live here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ww &#8211; really. keep on plugging. <img src='http://www.bigmangobar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>j &#8211; I agree with you. It is not always about looks for mannerisms and working it. Some people just don&#8217;t want to work it. Which is no problem. Leaves more for me.</p>
<p>My take has always been in areas with p4p is to chase non p4p and if I get lucky. great. If not there is always a fallback position. NO blue balls or self love around these parts.</p>
<p>Even better. Have a gf, gun for some side salad and still enjoy p4p. Its asia. Thats why we live here.
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I empathize with Werewolf, in my current experience (granted: as a 30-something) it hasn&#039;t been too hard to pull in the non-P4P areas of Thailand (as well as in competitive markets such as HK and SG). Granted, there are no hungry eyes, but a bit of conversation, some humor and a touch of worldliness goes a long way (and yes you end up paying dinners and such anyway). A SG (now ex) squeeze decided to get intimately close on the first date, and a BKK good girl (definitely non-Sukh scene) ended up dragging me into bed two weeks after meeting her. I have had my share of rejections (including an ungrateful Filipina maid! who disappeared after making me pay her entrance at Attica in SG... oh well, you live you learn) just enough to keep me grounded, but even then the situation was made vastly more palatable by the easy availability of quick relief. I also know one UK gentleman living in SG who matches more or less Werewolf&#039;s description who pulls (non P4P) regularly in both SG and BKK.
Anyway Werewolf you could be in Trondheim or Saskatchewan instead... same downsides but no relief in sight. So all is not lost :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I empathize with Werewolf, in my current experience (granted: as a 30-something) it hasn&#8217;t been too hard to pull in the non-P4P areas of Thailand (as well as in competitive markets such as HK and SG). Granted, there are no hungry eyes, but a bit of conversation, some humor and a touch of worldliness goes a long way (and yes you end up paying dinners and such anyway). A SG (now ex) squeeze decided to get intimately close on the first date, and a BKK good girl (definitely non-Sukh scene) ended up dragging me into bed two weeks after meeting her. I have had my share of rejections (including an ungrateful Filipina maid! who disappeared after making me pay her entrance at Attica in SG&#8230; oh well, you live you learn) just enough to keep me grounded, but even then the situation was made vastly more palatable by the easy availability of quick relief. I also know one UK gentleman living in SG who matches more or less Werewolf&#8217;s description who pulls (non P4P) regularly in both SG and BKK.<br />
Anyway Werewolf you could be in Trondheim or Saskatchewan instead&#8230; same downsides but no relief in sight. So all is not lost <img src='http://www.bigmangobar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Young Royal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Young Royal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want that newbie tourist feel then stray down to Patpong once in a while. I couldn&#039;t get the smile off my face last time. Nobody knew me it was great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want that newbie tourist feel then stray down to Patpong once in a while. I couldn&#8217;t get the smile off my face last time. Nobody knew me it was great.
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		<title>By: dj</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YP &quot;One thing I have noticed still only being early 20s, is that the girls dont seem to smile nearly near as much as when I used to come here on holiday. I havent aged that much, got fatter or balder.&quot;

I agree nearly all BGs prefer the less knowledgable tourist coming here on holiday.  We can speculate on the several reasons why this is so, and how quickly they can differentiate newbie tourists from expats and frequent visitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YP &#8220;One thing I have noticed still only being early 20s, is that the girls dont seem to smile nearly near as much as when I used to come here on holiday. I havent aged that much, got fatter or balder.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree nearly all BGs prefer the less knowledgable tourist coming here on holiday.  We can speculate on the several reasons why this is so, and how quickly they can differentiate newbie tourists from expats and frequent visitors.
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		<title>By: Phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pant&#039;s Elk: Your comments to this post are probably the most touching I have ever read on the BM blog. And I do not mean this with any irony. Plus, I totally agree with what you say. 

&quot;I&#039;ve never fucked as well and as long as I&#039;ve made love.
There is a difference.&quot; So true. The best sex I have had so far was with girlfriends (including Western girls), not hookers. But I still love P4P in Thailand, simply because of the &quot;fun&quot; you mentioned... and exactly 100 other reasons which are too sick and perverted to be mentioned here :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pant&#8217;s Elk: Your comments to this post are probably the most touching I have ever read on the BM blog. And I do not mean this with any irony. Plus, I totally agree with what you say. </p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve never fucked as well and as long as I&#8217;ve made love.<br />
There is a difference.&#8221; So true. The best sex I have had so far was with girlfriends (including Western girls), not hookers. But I still love P4P in Thailand, simply because of the &#8220;fun&#8221; you mentioned&#8230; and exactly 100 other reasons which are too sick and perverted to be mentioned here <img src='http://www.bigmangobar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Young Penfold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Young Penfold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Combover is actually my dad
ANd i do recall him offering his &#039;10,000th post&#039; free drinks to me, so cough up boys else ill.....errmm..... streak through the bar. That&#039;s gotta hurt any business</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Combover is actually my dad<br />
ANd i do recall him offering his &#8216;10,000th post&#8217; free drinks to me, so cough up boys else ill&#8230;..errmm&#8230;.. streak through the bar. That&#8217;s gotta hurt any business
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