Paradise and Hell by Werewolf

Posted by werewolf | Blog, Reader Submissions | Posted on February 24th, 2008

I once heard a description of Heaven and Hell. In the description, Heaven was described as being like a big banquet with all the best food and drink available, where you could sit and enjoy eating and drinking to your heart’s content. Hell was described as being the same as heaven, except that you were hungry and you couldn’t eat; all you could do was watch all the people in heaven enjoying themselves.

I would like to suggest that this is an apt description of Bangkok if you live here as a faithful husband.

Bangkok is all about getting laid. Threesomes, uni girls, tattoo-ed ladies, go-go dancers, waitresses, cashiers, Isaan farm girls and Bangkok born accountants. The sex is there all the time. In America the first topic of conversation at the office on Monday morning was yesterday’s Redskins game. Here, it’s a description of the the two girls from Surin that you did in the short time hotel after meeting your client last night.

Sex isn’t just available, it’s in your face. All the time.

If you’re single and have a bit of cash in your wallet, the worst thing you can say about it is that it sometimes gets a bit boring. Shit, another 22 year old girl from Burriram? Like the description of Heaven above, the supply is endless.

Imagine the plight of the faithful husband. He meets his mates at work or for a drink. Every conversation eventually turns to the nightlife and the girls. What can he do? Grin stupidly and listen, I guess. What’s he gonna say? I had sex with my wife again last night. This time she wore the pink flowery negligee and I nailed her on the kitchen counter?

So what? How does that compare to the lesbian twins and the dwarf that Sam popped yesterday afternoon, or the Amazon he played hide the sausage with two hours later?

But that’s just the water cooler talk. That doesn’t matter much. The problem is that when the 5 o’clock whistle blows, faithful-guy heads out with Sam and the boys. Let’s say his wife is out of town for the week, so he doesn’t need to get home right away, but he’s still faithful.

They start with a quick dinner at a restaurant near the office. One of his mates flirts with the waitress and scores her phone number and a promise for a date on Thursday — her day off.

Afterwards, the gang heads out to shoot some pool and drink a few beers. Jason recognizes a freelancer at the next table shooting 8 ball with some friends. He mentions the really hot session he had with her a week or so ago. He excuses himself, suggesting that everyone keep playing, he’ll be back soon.

A whispered discussion and some giggles from the freelancer and she tells her friends she’ll be right back. Whether its into the toilet or off to the short time hotel for a quickie, thirty minutes later the two of them are back. Jason has a grin on his face and she has her rent money in her bag. Faithful guy looks at the perfect ass on the girl and just takes a deep breath to slow down his heartbeat.

Someone suggests hitting a go-go bar. Someone else says go-gos are lame. Okay, winner of the next pool game decides. Ten minutes later and everyone is off to the go-go.

At the go-go there are a dozen naked beauties on stage. Sam’s favorite girl crawls up on his lap and takes off her bikini top, sticking her nipple in his mouth. For the next twenty minutes he’s fondling her, liking her titties and getting his fingers wet. Between the finger fucking in the booth and the naked hotties on stage, faithful guy has a solid woodie. He’s thinking about his week alone while his wife is out of town.

He’s wondering just how good it would feel to slip it to the hottie with the peirced navel and the butterfly tattoo. He can just about feel it. One more drink, he thinks, and when she finishes dancing I’ll buy her a drink.

Suddenly his phone rings. It’s his wife, just checking to make sure that he managed to find some dinner, and that he’s okay. Yep, just out for a drink with the boys; we had dinner and shot some pool earlier. I love you. Bye.

Sam decides to barfine his girl and bring her along. The crew packs up and heads out to a coyote club. At least here the girls aren’t naked.

But they are hot. Mostly university girls, they dance the way you want a girl to have sex — writhing, sensual moves that remind you of exactly what’s hidden under the skimpy outfits they’re wearing. Faithful guy starts imagining himself having sex with the one with the big tits. She can keep those cowboy boots on and ride him all night long.

It turns out that big-tits is named Nom, and Eddie has been doing here for a while. He hooked up with Nom about three months ago, and she comes to his house about once a week. Not only does she wear the cowboy boots, but she often brings her best friend along for the ride, and sometimes asks if Eddie can arrange for one of his friends to come in so they can have a bit of an orgy.

Faithful guy just groans.

The night is moving quickly, and pretty soon the lights come up in the coyote club. Eddie and Nom want to go to an after hours club to dance. Sam & his girl are in, and all the other guys are ready for action. Faithful guy talks about grabbing a cab home, but he ends up agreeing to go.

The after hours club is a large, swirling mass of humanity. Freelancers and punters in a smoky throbbing dance club, neither sure who is the hunter and who is the prey. The group scatters as they all go looking for some hot flesh. Faithful guy stands in the middle of it all with a cold beer in his hand, and tries to remember how long it’s been since he’s been out after midnight, or when he last went dancing.

Then he feels a hand slide up his back, and the smell of cheap perfume. He turns to find a brown skinned girl pressed up against him, writhing in time to the music. “What’s your name?” she asks, smiling.

And so it goes. He dances, he flirts, he looks and even cuddles a bit with the girls. But soon each encounter reaches the point where she asks, “You want to take me home tonight?”

He winces every time. “I’d love to, but I can’t….”

Hell is living in Paradise, being hungry and watching everyone else eat.

The worst part of it is that his wife doesn’t appreciate his monogamy. She hears the warnings from her friends every day. Don’t trust him, don’ t let him go out. The brown girls will steal him, or at least steal his money. He’ll sleep with dirty whores and then come home to you, smile and say he misses you.

She’s suspicious all the time. She can’t tell him not to go out without sounding like a shrew, so he can go, but there’s a price to be paid. And it’s not just the price of seeing unlimited, available, beautiful girls who want to sleep with him and having to say no… it’s the price that gets paid between a husband and a wife in a million unspoken and indescribable ways. The tension that exists unnamed. The imperceptible movements of the eyes during conversations that betray a lack of complete trust. The suspicion that exists under the surface — not talked about, but communicated nonetheless.

His self-control in the face of all the temptation goes unappreciated by his wife.

And what could he say to her about it anyway?! Honey, you should be proud of me. I went to a go-go bar full of naked dancers who wanted me to lick their boobies but I didn’t? I was in a freelancer bar full of hotties and stunners and managed not to fuck any of them?

He can’t say anything. It becomes Hell at home, unless he wants to come home every day at 5:30 and live like a monk. It’s hell when he’s out with his mates, unless he wants to break down and start making the beast with two backs in the short time hotels — a decision that’s not without it’s risks.

It’s simply hell to live in Bangkok if you’re a faithful husband.

Welcome to Paradise.

Note: This blog is presented as a hypothetical article; doubtless some readers will be tempted to say that — just as there’s no such thing as a “good” Thai girl — there is no such thing as a faithful husband in Bangkok. The blog, while general and fictionalized, was inspired by a friend of mine here in Bangkok who is, indeed, the rarest of all breeds — the faithful husband.



45 Responses to “Paradise and Hell by Werewolf”

  1. Cheapolay says:

    Interesting Muse. Through work though I have met lots of corporate guys over the years, many of whom were/are married and have come with their wives, and I must say not all of them seem plagued by this conundrum. Some are not turned on by cheap thrills sex. Some are not attracted to Asian girls/and or hookers, some don’t have such strong libidos, and etc. Those are the minority though.

    There are of course the many who fall to the temptation as you have noted and many solid marriages built on family values and children have been destroyed over lust, which always seems sad to me when I hear about it. Particularly because the newfound relationships built only on money, lust, and superficiality are normally doomed from the start.

    Unfortunately there isn’t any real good solution to the problem for these men. The most successful marriages are the ones where the wife is able to endure the short term infidelity that has entered into the relationship for the greater value of what the couple has built together over a solid number of years. Again though, that reaction by the wives is probably not the norm.

    May the force be with them.

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  2. Daywalker says:

    “faithful”? Interesting word. Never heard/used that one.

    What does it mean?

    You know, if you have a bit of cash in the ‘real world’… just buy a Ferrari. – The girls will follow. ;)

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  3. smitty says:

    I always found that the guys struggling with things the most were the execs who still lived in America/England with their wives and kids but who made frequent trips to Asia or any other part of the world with p4p action or say a cheaper lifestyle. They had it the worse since they would go nut while on a trip but over subsequent trips they would have gf’s or almost second wives while trying to pretend that once they went home none of it existed. Those guys probably pretend to hold it together longer but end up crashing in a much bigger way.

    Bollocks to all of it. I am building a harem.

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  4. AUK says:

    Smitty, absolutely correct!

    note:- Today is the League Cup Final – Chelsea v Tottenham. I can go to the pub with my mates, for a sunday afternoon drinking session. Nice and easy. Or I could be in Bangkok, wondering which bar to go & watch it in. An English/Irish bar to remind me of the UK? A Pool bar,so I can watch the game intermitently, while watching girls bent over Pool tables. In my hotel room with a beautiful young lady looking after me while I watch the game? Or just go out for sanuk, & watch the game on my return, on one of the many sports channels in BKK?
    So much easier in the UK!

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  5. AUK says:

    DW – I found this on the internet:
    Faithful – not having sexual relations with anyone except your husband or wife, boyfriend or girlfriend.

    So everything is okay, you can have a sexual relationship with your wife & girlfriend!
    Bless the Internet!

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  6. RJ says:

    You got me Smitty., the real deal in my view is to never get close enough to have a regular gf. If the two worlds are kept morally separate then they wont collide.

    ww – I was always taught that bad boys go to hell and being good saves your soul for heaven.
    This paradox of good versus bad allows me to have twin standards of morality so guilt is not an issue.

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  7. werewolf says:

    Cheapolay: I agree with you about the fact that there are men — and I think there are a lot of them — who are in Bangkok, faithful to their wives, and completely un-tempted (if that’s a word) by the naughty nightlife on offer. These guys are usually stable guys who are content to play golf, attend to work or to their investments, and are emotionally invested in the wife or girlfriend.

    I can think of two guys who leap to mind.

    One of them is a semi-retired 50-ish fellow who moved here with his wife a couple of years ago. You’d simply never see him near a go go bar or after hours club.

    The other is, oddly enough, a 40-ish English teacher who has had the same steady Thai girlfriend (not a former bar girl) for three years now. I go out with him regularly, and while he certainly finds beautiful girls attractive, he is obviously never tempted to stray. He typically has early drinks with me then heads home by about 10 pm. He confirmed to me recently that he hasn’t flirted with or had sex with another girl since he started dating his girlfriend three years ago.

    I admire both of them, though I don’t aspire to emulate either of them.

    AUK: you would have been watching the game alcohol-free here in Bangkok today.

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  8. Cheapolay says:

    WW – Those men you mention are certainly admirable. I at least admire them for their focus and commitment to one person and one relationship. I admire them because I myself have never been able to maintain sexual focus on one physical entity. In fact, I was never even very good even before I came to Thailand 100 some odd years ago. I am not necessarily wanting to be like one of them, god it sounds terrible, but the fact is I can’t even if I wanted to and, if I could, then I might be more successful in having a relationship with someone. My attitude is why have just one when you can have them all, right?

    Speaking of having them all, I have a lot of foreign friends who have been here a while and they have started become ethno-sensitive or ethno-centric if you want to call it that. Or to put it quite simply: “Racist”. So they shun the darker skinned girls and act as if they have more refined tastes now that they have been here a while and only want to date the lighter skinned Bangkok Thai-Chinese. I started becoming like that at one point myself, turning my nose up at certain types of girls and eventually I disliked it. It meant that I was falling prey to the same superficial, petty, small-minded, pigeon-holing social class structure that most of local Thai society buys into here. Ugh, it was so damn shallow. Not only that, but by liking all kinds of girls again it means I have access to a much bigger stock of women! More for me, less for them is the way I see it now.

    What I think would be an interesting follow up to this thread though, which I consider to be a subject on a more anthropological level for a change, rather than a lot of the newbie talk here about where to go, how to navigate with the girls, and how much to pay for this which boars people like me, would be a talk about the impacts on long term relationships of those men who remain in relationships with their significant others and who never actually find out.

    The consequence that many people don’t realize is that by having a number of other concubines it means you are often not fulfilling your regular obligations at home. This could either be because you are not as interested or in need of sexual relations as much anymore when you are at home or, you simply just don’t have the energy for it.

    Whatever the reasons though it means that you don’t have to get caught or found out by your partner for the sexual lifestyle in Thailand to ruin a relationship. This behavior could have more subtle impacts which eventually result in the same sorry, sad ending. Something that many men probably would never anticipate since the typical approach is usually “what she doesn’t know won’t hurt her”. Food for thought…

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  9. smitty says:

    cheap – U make some interesting points. Might I suggest rather than labeling the current content boring – that you offer up your first reader submission. Might be the best way to open up the discussions you would enjoy more.

    I am an equal opportunity player – dark/white/tan. That’s what I love about this place. Some of my best Coyote club pulls are the less white girls the rich Thais shun. These girls are begging for attention.

    I also think the other thing not much talked about on the blog – or any of them is the fact that some Thai girls are not against some form of open relationship – especially the ones into other girls. The are many ways to skin a cat in this town.

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  10. Mountain Goat says:

    There are quite a few of us here who have “Been there, and seen that” and get on with real life. To be faithful does not necessarily have to be painful – even in Bangkok. It’s just a matter of intelligence and respect…

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  11. Bungholio says:

    Being there and seeing that is not the issue. Got all that. It’s the intelligence and respect part I am lacking, not to mention a number of other things including a sex addiction, which is the main driving force. Thank goodness there is this: http://www.sa.org/

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  12. doctorbond says:

    I had a quick look at the site – apparently ‘sex addiction’ is a ‘problem’ :)

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  13. mart says:

    dr bond – Don’t be sarcastic! Of course it is a problem when you are armless and live in Farangland…

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  14. Pants Elk says:

    … and then there’s the type of husband who has been faithful for years, and comes to Bangkok, and says, the hell with that, I have one life, and I’ve wasted enough of it with her back home, I’m going to get me some of THIS special sweet time before I roll over and die … and then discovers that he not only can’t go home again, he doesn’t want to, and then he later discovers, during the long and painful and homeless divorce, that his faithfulness during those first years was returned by her fucking a series of men behind his back … there’s that kind of faithful husband too.

    So I hear.

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  15. doctorbond says:

    @ mart: I’ve been legless a few times but that never stopped me – in fact it enhanced the experience

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  16. yesman says:

    Interesting post, a fun read.I have come to Thailand with my guy friends and there girlfriends. None of the guys seemed overly tempted to pay a hooker for sex.
    I even have came with a couple of young guys; single, having just spent 5 months on an oil rig in the middle east, during those 5 months they never once saw a real live girl. These guys still had no interest in banging a bar girl.
    Theres all kinds out there.

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  17. mart says:

    dr bond – Off topic! With the blue pill, there is no leg which won’t grow again…

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  18. LasRobos says:

    This story hits close to home. I’ve been married for 5 years to a beautiful Asian woman. I met her in the U.S. but she grew up in Asia. We have an absolutely fantastic relationship including great bedroom activities. I truly feel incredibly lucky to be married to her (she even has a good job!). Why she loves me is beyond me!

    I’ve been to LOS and RP a number of times for both fun and business in the late 90′s. I returned to LOS this summer for business and of course had to visit some old haunts. Also, a Thai business friend took me out to a club (maybe a Coyote club, I’m not sure) where the women were absolutely stunning.

    Resisting temptation was extremely tough. I love my wife, but you can’t help think – what would it hurt to partake of this – just a bit! I’ve always been strongly attracted to Asian women and just love a bedroom romp!

    Fortunately (or may unfortunately) business will probably not bring me back for at least a year or so!

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  19. Daywalker says:

    @yesman

    Your mates spent 5 months on an oil rig and showed no interest in banging a bar girl?

    - I don’t fooooookin think so!

    Unless they are gay.

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  20. mart says:

    daywalker – yeah, either gay or chelsea supporters!

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  21. yesman says:

    DW.. not gay. they were just above paying for sex.And its hard to imagine a rigger that doesnt like hookers but they are out there. They both had flings with non- hookers in phuket. There is a breed of non-working thai women that come to phuket looking for western boyfriends.

    I like the post because it is easy to forget what a normal relationship with a girl is if you spend to much time in Thailand and spend to much time with others guys that spend to much time in Thailand.The post is a reminder that there a people that dont slut it up to an EXTREME level and dont cheat on there wives or girlfriends.
    ….I myself am starting to drift away.

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  22. Daywalker says:

    yesman…. the reason I find this hard to believe, is because I am working on a Oil & Gas Installation right now in the middle of a desert. I’d have sex right now with a camel if I could catch the little swines.

    ‘Above paying for sex’.?!!! Dear oh dear…. I can’t comment on that, as Admin will surely delete my post! ;)

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  23. mart says:

    ‘Above paying for sex’, nice one, reminds me of my first Thai days… I suppose that they aren’t above playing the lover to get free sex.

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  24. smitty says:

    mart – great point.

    Even in yesman’s comment he says the magic words:

    They both had flings with non- hookers in phuket. There is a breed of non-working thai women that come to phuket looking for western boyfriends.

    meaning the guys purported to be looking for gf’s or giving all the lines they needed to get sex so as not to pay for it. I am not saying everyone should pay or that there is not free sex but generally when guys roll into Thailand and don’t speak Thai – they have given the girl quite a song and dance to get into her pants.

    I have always told guys it is probably better to pay for it knowing you are not hurting anyone since the p4p girls understand the tx. I hear so many girls talk about the guy they thought was into them and who was going to email them and write and so on but who never talked to them again. Sure this Thai girl was dumb and opened her legs knowing that she had that to offer but not realizing that she was being duped. The guys who pull this off are thinking they are better than the guys paying for it but I don’t think so. I think it is worse since they are deceiving people to get sex.

    THis is not to say there is not free hook ups and so on but generally the fresh off the boat types not wanting to pay who get free hook ups are saying a lot of BS to get the free hook ups.

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  25. Cheapolay says:

    Better to pay for it than steel it or get for free has been the saying in Thailand since the dinosaurs roamed and there is good reason for it. Paying for it means it the sex is quantified and clarified. Otherwise, not paying for it is a commitment or a theft. I don’t make the rules, just play by them.

    There is the occasional exception to the rule. This is when someone is paying for it, but not using it all the time. Meaning when there is an existence of a full-fledged overseas sponsorship. In which case the part being paid for and not being used is free to be consumed. In the West it is known as OPP. Here I am still working on a word for it.

    But even for those guys on the other end who seem to be getting duped, they should always remember one thing “You never lose the girl in Thailand, you only lose your turn!”

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  26. yesman says:

    @DW I was working in Afghanistan for about 3 months before I felt up a camel.They have big tounges and know how to use them.

    @ Smitty and mart/ I didn’t really like these two guys that much. But I wouldn’t say they mislead the girls or were spitting game at them. But the girls clearly wanted western boyfriends that would truly love them and “take them away to a better life” ( A dream that fills the hearts way to many Thai women Working or not).

    And to many p4p women still have the dream of the western boyfriend so I wouldn’t say that you are less likely to break hearts when choosing them to dump a load in. Really the only way not to break The heart of a Thai women is to be a prick to her so she wont like you anyway.
    Or only take the ones that are clearly not into you and just in it for cash.
    Even Soi 6 Pattaya women can get clingy.

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  27. smitty says:

    cl – the term u are looking for is freebird.

    we coined it on the blog a long way back

    :)

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  28. Cheapolay says:

    As for the gentleman talking about the non-working girls in Pattaya looking for Western boyfriends, that is the biggest oxymoron I have ever heard. If you believe such a thing exists, I would say you are filled with naive ignorance. A girl looking for a western man in Pattaya has only one motive. Whether she charges at the pump or hooks him in an starts spending his money on her family and lifestyle later it is all the same thing. The thing people don’t realize is that this country is full of shades of gray. It’s just being able to realize when something is another shade of gray that takes the time to develop and some just never get it.

    If you said that your friend met a girl on line at the bank who was making a deposit of 100,000 Baht to her account I would give a bit more credence to it, but in Pattaya? Heh?

    Since you still have all that star dust in your eyes, I, and I am sure others, would love to hear what you believe is the reason that Thai women in Pattaya who are not on the game of sorts want a Western man so badly? Is it because they are so smart, handsome, and nice? Please grace us with more of that newfound wisdom.

    I’d type more, but my laptop is getting hot from resting on my knees and so I need to get up and flush the toilet now and go back to watching reruns of Hogan’s Heroes.

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  29. mart says:

    And if you meet, when in Pattaya, a Thai girl on line at the bank who’s making a 100,000 THB deposit, run away, it is a very skilled hooker…

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  30. mart says:

    “what you believe is the reason that Thai women in Pattaya who are not on the game of sorts want a Western man so badly?”

    The only reasons I can see are:
    - they’ve been told farangs make the best som tam
    - they’ve been told farangs have a spicy penis

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  31. yesman says:

    So I guess every Thai lady is a money grubbing whore completely incapable of wanting a relationship with someone for anything other then money. Though stability is strongly on there minds.

    I was talking specifically about patong beach in Phuket.

    I have not or dont know anyone that has had the fling with a non-working girl in Pattaya.

    And I am way too smart, handsome and nice for my own good. Its almost ridiculous.:-)

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  32. Cheapolay says:

    Good ones Mart. You are making a lot of sense.

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  33. Cheapolay says:

    Also, very sorry, I meant to refer to YM’s comment about the non-working girls looking for Western boyfriends in Phuket, rather than Pattaya. Even more surprising that there would be Thai women there in Phuket hunting Western men who are not on the game as the place is much more expensive to get to and put up camp. And if the girls were originally from the Esan region, which is much more economically challenged and quite far away geographically from Phuket, then I think that would help to quantify things. It is possible though that girls might occasionally pretend they are not on the game if they just got a big pay off from a multi-day John who they just smooched off at the airport or are on the overseas sponsorship annuity program as I mentioned. In this case, they can invest the time into playing the game a bit better and set their sights on longer term aspirations for bigger payoffs. I have one “Freebird” as Smitty referred to them as (still think there has to be a better word for them) who pops by sometimes. She doesn’t want to reduce the narrow girth of my wallet, but in exchange I have to listen to all of her customer stories in between sets. There is one guy who has been dating her for 3 years and sends money who doesn’t know she is on the game even. Says she met him in a restaurant and was able to keep the two lives separate that way. So there ya go.

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  34. yesman says:

    well I am not going to argue with you col. Am just glad that reading horror stories and the mango sauce blog hasnt ruined my fun yet.

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  35. Cheapolay says:

    Horror stories? I thought it was all part of the adventure!?!?!

    Just kidding, but when I first came here there was some truth to it being part of the adventure. There were still lots more gray areas in this country. It was far from user friendly and there was little accountability. Things kind of worked, but often not really and there was more grit and an edge to the place. With it, there came a certain kind of more intrepid traveler as well. Now Thailand has become so gentrified and farangafied and I see strollers rolling down Sukhuimvit and Silom left and right. So much of the flavor of this place has been lost and a lot of the charm has been flushed away with it. Thailand is now full of US pop culture and superficial consumerism. With that comes of course more conveniences, better infrastructure and higher standards of safety and so forth. But considering the price paid for that, I would take the Thailand of yestster year back in a second!

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  36. yesman says:

    It was just weird being told by someone I have never met that my middle class, Educated thai girlfriend of almost two years and all her friends and her mom and sister were all long balling prostitutes.

    I can speak intelligently about Phuket, not Really Bangkok and pattaya. Very similar and also very different. The type of tourist being the biggest difference. Well there are still the sex tourist, drunken football fist fighters, but you will see many more well balanced people on a sun holiday on there first and probably only trip to Thailand.

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  37. Cheapolay says:

    Education doesn’t mean a Thai girl won’t look for an easy way out. have you checked the average salary of a Thai female college grad lately? Thais are opportunists and pride and morality is not strong in this country when it comes to improving ones socio-economic class level. Anyway, I don’t know anything about your situation, I am just speaking in generalities.

    What I can tell you would be a bigger shocking realization though is the German guy who recently took his Thai girlfriend down to the German embassy in Bangkok only to have to learn from the clerk there that he couldn’t take his girlfriend back to Germany on a fiancé visa because well, she was not a she.

    Lola… Lo, lo, loae, Lola…

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  38. mart says:

    Nothing a good lawyer could not fix. German laws are tolerant towards transgenders. Did you guys know Angela Merkel once was a bloke?

    errrm, no she never was but could have been ;-)

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  39. yesman says:

    I was making general statements too, so i guess we are telling each other what we already know.

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  40. Cheapolay says:

    Mart, at that point I am not sure the German guy was looking for a solution to his immigration woes. I think he was probably dealing with the issue as to whether or not he should now consider himself gay while thinking about how we was going to tell his friends back in Germany that had spent the last few weeks on his trip to Thailand with his tongue down another guy’s throat. One minute he was in heaven thinking he was going to bring the girl of his dreams back home to meet his family. The next minute he is in hell thinking he was cheated financially, emotionally, sexually, and aesthetically!

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  41. Daywalker says:

    “So I guess every Thai lady is a money grubbing whore completely incapable of wanting a relationship with someone for anything other then money.”

    - That has nothing to do with them being Thai.

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  42. Phoenix says:

    Cheapo: being cheated aesthetically would set me up most.

    mart: Since when is Angela considered a woman? I seem to have missed that breaking news on CNN.

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  43. Mighty Mouse says:

    just dont mix sex and love together , so go out there now guys and enjoy :)

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  44. thai lady says:

    I was cheaedt buy Aussie guy. I’ve been honest with him almost2 years. After he sell his properties and move to Phuket he choose a new woman around there.Now I hated all farangs especially Australia guy. I will not show an easy smile to any farang tourist again.

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  45. Young Penfold says:

    Thai lady – Shouldnt you be working in your bar?
    Or are you a freelancer at the mango making the most of the free internet?

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