Sherbert by Werewolf
Posted by werewolf | Blog, Reader Submissions | Posted on February 12th, 2008
editor’s note: Yes – I know. Sherbert is not in the guide. All in good time people.
Anyone who regularly reads the blog probably knows that I became a member of Pent Club several months ago. Member clubs are also sometimes called g-clubs, which is short for gentlemen’s clubs.
My saleslady (or mamasan) at Pent was a lady named Joy. She disappeared from Pent just before Christmas.
The Pent is owned by a company that operates a group of g-clubs that includes Forte, Piano and Sherbert among others. In early January Joy called me and said that she would be working at Sherbert starting the 1st of February. She called me a few times this past week to invite me out on Friday night. I told her I would try to make it, but I didn’t.
She called me on Saturday and asked me to pleeeaaaase come out Saturday night.
By now, you’ve probably identified that you like G-clubs or you don’t. So I won’t spend any time arguing one way or the other. My position is well documented; I like the Pent a lot, but I haven’t enjoyed any other g-clubs I’ve visited. So, for this blog I’ll simply focus on describing Sherbert in comparison to the other G-clubs I’ve seen.
It’s quite a long walk from Ekkamai station — perhaps 300 meters along Soi 63 on the left hand side. I like to walk, so it was no problem, but if you don’t like that option you’ll probably want to take a taxi if you visit. It’s on the left, about 75 meters past it’s sister club called Piano. The next building on the street after Sherbert was a club called Curve, which had a long line of people at the front door waiting to get in.
The entrance to both Piano and Sherbert look the same as Pent… no surprises there. I called Joy on the phone and she met me at the door. The first thing she told me was that Sherbert already had a girl named ‘Joy’ so she was now called Jane. She said that Jane was her ‘real’ name, and that she had been called Joy at Pent because they had a Jane already. Whatever. Then Joy… Jane… whoever… gave me a tour of the club.
Club Design – Inside, Sherbert was designed like the normal g-club, with a large central room with a raised stage for a band and dancers. It also had a long raised platform — sort of a curving catwalk — for the girls to dance on. It had a nice decor, similar to Sapranos and Pent, and much nicer than Resort.
Club Size – The space was much larger than I remember Sapranos; closer to the size of Resort. The positive of this is that it is roomy, but it also means that you can have a seat that is too far away from the action. It lacks a bit of the intimacy of places like Pent and Sapranos.
Sound System – It had a fantastic sound system that made me feel the music; it felt like my clothes were about to be blown off. I visited Resort two weeks ago and found the music to be uncomfortably loud. This music in Sherbert was just as overwhelming, but the quality of the system was great, so it was impressive rather than irritating.
Karaoke Rooms – On the mezzanine level upstairs there are karaoke rooms on offer. I didn’t check them out, so I don’t know if you pay extra.
Other Features – There are at least two separate bar areas, and they are very big. There is a pool table, and it is in the area where all the hostesses hang out. When I was there, the hostesses were playing pool. There is also a separate, quieter room where they appear to serve dinner. It reminded me of the pool room at the Pent, only without the pool.
Love Songs & Dance Music – But the thing I like about Pent is that there are two separate spaces for the two very different types of entertainment. In the front room they run the “lounge” style shows, and in the disco they have coyote dancers. In the other clubs I’ve been to, the two forms of entertainment alternate in the same space which I don’t like at all. The live bands tend to play Thai and English love-ballads. This is exactly what I don’t like about them… I don’t like listening to Celine Dion tunes played live when I have no hope of escape.
Sherbert had the coyote dancers on when I arrived at 10 pm. The overall quality of the dancers was about average compared to the other g-clubs I’ve seen, and I spotted one or two that I wouldn’t mind getting to know better.
After 20 minutes or so the live band hit the stage. The musicians were talented enough, but no matter how well you play it, it was the same type of music that is always on offer in these places. I started gulping my (mandatory minimum) second drink, thinking I’d make a move for the door.
Joy… er, I mean… Jane… chose that moment to hit me up for a 20 thousand baht memberhip. Bad timing. No dancers in sight, cheezy live music being played. I declined as politely as I could, kissed her on the cheek and took off.
Member clubs… love ‘em or hate ‘em there are plenty on offer in Bangkok. If you’re in the Ekkamai area and you are a lover, you may want to check out Sherbert. If you do, ask for Mamasan Jane and tell her I sent you.
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I have a feeling if I am willing to sit in any nightclub in Bangkok and spend 20,000 baht to be there, then I don’t need to say anyone sent me. Seems I have already been sent to the ATM and hard and I have already paid for what someone, who is silly enough to pay that sort of money, perceives as VIP service. Or maybe I should say “A friend of mine said I should come here and grab my ankles while all the money is removed from my wallet without me even enjoying it”. G-Clubs are probably the silliest thing I have ever heard of in Bangkok, especially where you can have lots more fun for far less money elsewhere, unless you have regional Asian clients you need to entertain for business purposes. All fluff and no muff. What’s point? To pay for people to pretend you’re rich, influential, important and respected? No need to pay for that if you have enough self respect. Sheesh!
View all comments by CheapoLay
Well, that (previous comment here-above)will do it for all the posts you made on G-Clubs….LOL
Copy & Paste above comment to all these posts….
View all comments by Kon Teen
So much for sugar coating!
View all comments by deaner
@ cheapo… errrr …. in your humble opinion?
View all comments by doctorbond
Don’t forget the 20k is for a load of booze.
Smitty invited me to a G-Club and I had an excellent time. What I did notice, apart from the hot girls which were not covered in tattoos and cheap jewellery, was that the place didn’t have the element of riff-raff and drunken tourists.
I’d pay the 20k without the drink to get away from the scumbags.
- but then, I pretend I’m rich, influential, important and respected!
I also pretend I’m tall and hairy.
View all comments by Daywalker
DW… What about that bearskin rug you keep on your back? and how much to keep you away?
I’ve only been to one G-club a long ago but it was one of the best times i’ve had in BKK, the atmosphere is a bit different and DW is right you do get rid of a lot of trash that way.
GL
View all comments by GoodlLife
Cheapolay: Yeah, again 20,000 baht buys 11 bottles of Chivas Regal Whiskey, free mixers and free entertainment for a year. Alternately it buys 100 bottles of beer.
At 1,800 baht per bottle of whiskey and 200 baht per bottle of beer, pleasant surroundings, live music and good service I could only describe the comment “A friend of mine said I should come here and grab my ankles while all the money is removed from my wallet without me even enjoying it” as simply uninformed if not downright ignorant. It’s not cheap, but it’s hardly an ass fucking.
And where did this idea come from that the only things anyone should do in Bangkok are the ones with low price tags?
I bought some shoes on Friday, and I paid decent money for them. I paid the money, not because I was trying to impress anyone, but because the shoes were very comfortable, very well made and just the color I was looking for. I imagine you would have told me to just buy a pair of flip flops at 7-11 since there’s no difference between anything you slip on your feet. The cheapest is the best, right?
I don’t love g-clubs — in fact for the most part I dislike them aside from Pent — but I’d hardly describe them as “All fluff and no muff”. According to your logic, we should all eat street food all the time since a tablecloth, glasses and cutlery are extra service items that only an idiot would pay extra for. After all, they only increase the price without getting you any more food. All those self important assholes eating in restaurants every day ought to get some self respect.
From the nature of your comment I can only imagine that you’ve never been into a g-club, because they simply don’t match your description. “VIP service” was your phrase, not mine, but why do you imagine that it can’t exist? It’s arguable whether the service in g-clubs is “VIP” quality, but certainly the service provided at a g-club is miles above what’s on offer in even the better bars in Sukhumvit.
As to your parting remark, “To pay for people to pretend you’re rich, influential, important and respected? No need to pay for that if you have enough self respect. Sheesh!” I am a g-club member, and I certainly hope that’s not directed at me, but it sounds like it is. It sounds like it’s aimed at everyone who is stupid enough to pay the membership for a club.
It seems to me that what you want is a free blow job in the toilet, because in your twisted logic, that would be the ultimate proof of your self respect.
View all comments by werewolf
“It seems to me that what you want is a free blow job in the toilet, because in your twisted logic, that would be the ultimate proof of your self respect.”
what about a self blowjob in the toilet? Probably the best way to show respect to oneself
View all comments by mart
the problem with money is that you need to know how to spend it. sounds simple but its whether are you able to do it with class and that is if u have enough of it to do so. guess some of our frens here that dont appreciate quality coyote clubs really have no idea. that alrite. i dont see the point in bashing heads with such people. just stick to their end of the field as i will to mine. i always hate trash in coyote’s anyway.
View all comments by limmy
Guys I am from LasVegas and one bottle of champaine is six hundred dollars,This is without the VIP treatment or a lap dance,Membership is anywhere between 6,000 thousand to 100,000 thou depending on what you want. I Do not mind going to aplace filled with little beauties, no hassels and good music,and 100 bears to drink.Iam There.It sounds like you guys get more bang for your buck. I will return to the land of smiles in May for 4 months.I think I will infest in a membership.In the long run;It is actually cheaper. Choke dee and Thanks for the info. POke Can mai
View all comments by Trav Man Doo
How do you rate the appearance and attiude of the g-club girls? When you pull one of the girls is their performance worth the time, effort and money? or is the main appeal of these clubs the atmosphere of drinking with a group of your mates while having eye candy…and less about expecting to be able to nail the girls?
I agree that most of the gogo and beerbar girls are scruffy. However the g-club girls I’ve seen aren’t always that hot either especially when viewed in the daylight. They tend to be slimmer and look good from a distance, but they cake on a thick layer of makeup and often have attitude on par with go-go girls.
For a value play without the riff-raff, I’m thinking an upper floor girl from Poissiden might be the way to go.
View all comments by Soapie
Trav:
You can get the price down to $500 per bottle if you buy them by the dozen
View all comments by Daywalker
Hey,dw Is that a dozen lap dances at 20 a pop or a dozen bottles of the bubbly. I prefer the lap dances,But It really sucks going home hard and no place to put it. I never have that problem in thailand
View all comments by Trav Man Doo
I think people need to gain a little perspective on some of this. If u have been in Thailand and want cheap and easy – don’t go to g-clubs. Nothing worse than when guys roll in and think they are going to score one of these hotties and don’t. People all seem to think there is only way thing in Thailand – find girl. Screw girl. Make sure u paid the least for said endeavors. I just think that is not the only thing to do in Thailand.
Ever gone to a bar or club just to hang with your mates? I do. Now make that bar or club a member joint and ram it with sexy girls who are on display for you. Girls that u can gaze at the whole time without doing more than drinking your own booze that you already paid for that costs no more than opening a bottle anywhere else. U get good service as well.
That is a g-club for me. If you want the massage girl who has already had sex 3 times that day and u think that compares to a coyote girl who probably has not had any all week then making this case is pointless.
Weird thing is any self respecting guy I take to a g-club who has has seen most of what Thailand has to offer appreciates the difference and understands that it is not the same as the go-go. God knows we can all hit the go-go later and pick a number and go home. What I think is funny is when guys think that picking the hottie in the go-go is some form of a skill. We all know anyone can get laid at the go-go. Or the massage parlor. Or sukhumvit. For me – that just gets a little boring but yes I like knowing I always can.
SO the g-clubs are another outlet. I have met some beautiful non-jaded young girls who are not virgins but do not lay on their back everyday for money. They don’t have to. Some will, some won’t but many offer a great time in getting to know them. I have had some fun dates. Been to places I never knew existed and have gotten laid without paying them for it.
I always find the harshest critics of the g-clubs are the ones who have never been. Interesting. I have pretty much done it all in bkk and I like the g-clubs. Yes – u can blow a lot of money but one does not have to in order to have a good time. My booze usually lasts my entire member year for the record.
My take on this post is that sherbet looks pretty boring but this is not how I see all the g-clubs.
View all comments by smitty
smitty,smitty smitty you guys are living the dream. What you pay for a years membership at a G-club I have blown in three hours time.You ask what did I get? Well, Alot of bad attitude,pour service,and n0 witty conversation. It is nice sometime to be albe to enjoy the company of a few women with yours freiands ands without them trying to force a twenty dollar lap dance on you.If you offer to buy them a drink instead.Some of them get affended,but fortunately, I see that type a mile away.Anyway, I love Thailand and you should try some of the local karoke bars. I think you will find them very entertaining.
View all comments by Trav Man Doo
I can have ANY girl in ANY G-club without paying. Easy.
(I’m a rapist)
View all comments by Daywalker
t man – we do the best we can on our thai wages but I can say that life here is not too bad. I am one for hitting on all cylinders so to speak and bkk makes that very possible.
dw – sick man
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smitty keep living the dream my man, Because if I were there I would
be following your lead.Well maybe, Thing is Iam a sexy mf.Hope to see you Guys soon Have fun and enjoy life,and Know I will be thinking of you guy When I am biteing in to a Extreme sausage breakfast sandwitch at the nearbye Crack in the box
View all comments by Trav Man Doo
Each trip to Bangkok (next is Apr 08!!! for 10 days) I get farther and farther away from lower Suk and the drunk bozos who expect a hot chick to drop her pants for small change. The smells, the cripples, the vendors, and the children beggars on Suk turn me off beyond measure.
Each trip to Bangkok I spend more and more time on Rachada at the Poseidon model lounge and Tarawadee. I can enjoy a beer at Gulliver’s as much as anyone, but for my ladies now only a g-club coyote-quality girl or magazine model will do. Don’t know why that is…but the best looking girl I have had in Thailand was out of a high class karaoke bar and it took 3 nights before I had the beauty naked. I will see her again. Quality means everything to me, and g-clubs and coyote bars have the type of girls that make my jaw drop wide open–the costs of a model-type young uni lady is a bargain at twice the price to anyone from the West.
View all comments by cruiserPimp
I think anyone that has been around BKK for a while can testify to the fact that tastes in woman/nightlife drastically changes for the better
I spent my first few months blowing fistfuls of cash on bargirls of questionable quality for the hell of it.
I remember drooling over myabe 90% of the girls i saw in beerbars and gogos when i first arrived. Now without sounding like a snob maybe only 5% appeal now as im sure most will agree.
I prefer Ratchada and RCA as it is largely untainted by the singha vest and sandals brigade.
View all comments by Young Penfold
With all these people distancing themselves from lower Sukhumvit lets hope the New Mango isn’t there?! – The guys wont have any customers. (except the singha vest and sandals brigade!)
I like the G-Clubs and understand what they are about. But I love the lower suk bars and girls. After all, it was the lower suk scene that most of us fell in love with and made us stay?!
As we’ve all heard before…”It’s nice to have steak, but every now and then, you want a burger”!
Speaking of Burgers (Mango Burger yum yum), guys… I hope you kept the kitchen staff on a retainer?
View all comments by Daywalker
WW: “By now, you’ve probably identified that you like G-clubs or you don’t. So I won’t spend any time arguing one way or the other. . . . So, for this blog I’ll simply focus on describing Sherbert in comparison to the other G-clubs I’ve seen.”
Despite clearly trying to lead this blog into simply a review of a venue most readers are not yet familiar with, it immediately spun into another debate about which types of bars and girls are best.
One great aspect of Thailand is the wide variety of bars and ladies. Something to satisfy everyone’s taste, and so many opportunities to explore new areas.
Thanks WW for the time you spent on the review, and we hope to hear more from you on whichever venues you check out.
View all comments by DJ
my point is – in case it was lost on people is I like it ALL and appreciate the differences. I can go from a short time in nana to the pent. All good. I comment on this thread because some people are saying that there is only the lower suk or p4p scene an nothing else. I just can’t see it that way.
My only takeaway is here I need to get to Tawarwadee.
View all comments by smitty
Me? I’m an aging, balding, overweight lower suk white trash type. Smitty likes it all because he’s a fit, good looking youthful type who can pull Thai girls all day.
I like the easy kill go go dancers because I’m simply unable to get anything else.
I do wear long pants though, and more often than not a collared shirt.
It’s largely due to the efforts of pmmp & smitty that I’ve ventured out of the farang ghetto in search of the rest of Bangkok. The fact is that it’s a big fucking city with an awful lot on offer. Not all of it is aimed at getting me laid at the end of the night.
I love living here and going out to different places. Having a life here includes a lot of nights that don’t end up in bed with a go go dancer. Watching sports with a friend, eating dinner, shopping, movies. I could no more spend every night in Angelwitch or Rainbow 4 than I could eat McDonalds for breakfast, lunch and dinner every day. It’d be a shitty life.
I now move around to many different places every week for enjoyment. Most of my sex, though, is picked up and paid for between Sukhumvit Soi 4 and Soi 23. I just ain’t the sex machine that smitty is.
View all comments by werewolf
ww – that is the beauty – it is all here. I would say I am not getting as much as people must think because I spend a lot on the chase for items I usually do not land but that is fun too. It is all good – isn’t that the point?
View all comments by smitty
I’ve made a total of a dozen trips to BKK from the US since 2003 and spend a decent amount of time in Thailand every year. I like Sukhumvit and the soapies and all else that’s on offer, but next time I’m there, based on the enthusiasm of Team Mango, I gotta hit a g-club. Variety is the spice of life and I feel a bit ashamed not yet having checked out a g-club, being an experienced visitor/part-time expat. I’ve done Soi Cowboy and Nana, oilys, soapies, and the discos so many times now and although I still have a great time in those places, I think it would be well worth the 20,000 BHT for a year’s membership and all that booze since I’m there often enough. And, what a way to entertain my newbie guests whenever they come over. What’s really appealing to me as well is the fact that the girls are non-bargirl/go-go girls. Still love them, but a change of scenery could be good fun, I reckon. I get a sense that you guys recommend The Pent for a g-club virgin like me. Is that the case? Is that the one on Wireless Road?
View all comments by cranialgalactic
Cranial, yes, Pent is on Wireless, correct. Before buying a membership you should maybe check out some other g-clubs too. The only good thing about the Pent is the (rather small) disco room with the coyote dancers. That place gets it rocking, great fun. I strongly recommend it. The rest of the club is boring, imho.
View all comments by Phoenix
cranial – u hit the nail on the head. It is the variety that makes it all fun. Newbies love these places and so do business contacts. It is a scene they have never seen before and they appreciate the quality, service and customer difference.
Like Phoenix says – check a few out and make an informed decision based on what places gives u the best vibe. happy hunting.
View all comments by smitty
Cranial. – Keep away from ‘Forté’ G-club. It’s really crap. Drinks way over-priced and the girls are all fatties with boils all over their skin. The bathrooms are full of poofs too.
Best stay away from that one.
View all comments by Daywalker
DW-
Thanks for the heads up. I’ll probably be inclined to hit Pent first, and then maybe Resort, and the one on Suk Soi 11 (I forget the name).
Phoenix/smitty-
Thanks for the advice fellas. Will heed.
View all comments by cranialgalactic
P.S.- I don’t drink so I hope those 11 bottles of whiskey would also fit up my ass as I am getting screwed out of my 20,000 Baht.
Besides all the alchohol I wont drink, why do I want to be around a whole room full of girls who are pretending they like me because I am spending 200 Baht a drink for them to sit next to me (after I already spent the 20,000 Baht to be there) and laugh at my stupid jokes and pretend I am interesting to them.
On the flip side to this, take 2,000 Baht, the same price you would spend on the average P4P girl. By the way that would be the price in what I am going to call the “down market” places for those men here who obviously have graduated to the G-Clubs and turn their noses up at bar girls now. So instead, take that money and go to any night club in Bangkok. Aim to spend all of that money offering to buy some normal office girls some drinks. Guaranteed you have fun and you get laid either that night or within the next couple of nights without anyone pretending how handsome, smart, funny, and interesting you are not. There you go, no lying, no games, and you can wear your 7-11 flip flops to bed when you shag them if that turns you on. The only problem is you might at least have to try and pretend you are witty for a change.
As for pretending there is a difference in the quality of girls per say in a G-Club versus a go-go bar or on the streets of Sukhumvit (or anywhere else foreigners normally go to get their P4P girls) is that you can buy into that fantasy if you like it becuase that is exactly what it is. At least with the bar girls you know exactly how much it is going to cost you right from the start. There is a start and an end to the cost and it is quantified. With the G-Club girls you get the sucker punch. Maybe a free ride the first time, maybe not even a ride at all, but then the phone rings eventually asking for the dollar amounts to help with this or that. The call may be in a week or a month, but most likely it will come.
I’ll offer some real advice here for a change when it comes to any girl in the night life in Thailand:
“It is always better to pay then to steal it or get it for free”
I hope something here I said helps to wipe a bit of the star dust out of your eyes. Sheesh!
View all comments by CheapoLay
CL: You don’t drink so a 20,000 baht membership fee doesn’t work for you; don’t be stupid enough to assert that you are being screwed out of your money because you don’t want what is being sold. I don’t go to a lady’s handbag store if I want to buy a screwdriver. Sheeesh! Do you have any sense at all?!
Apparently you can’t read either, because I’ll challenge you to find a single person on this site who has ever said that they have ‘graduated to G-clubs and turn their noses up at bar girls now.” Quite the opposite. The typical comment from people that enjoy G-clubs has been that the clubs make up just one part of the overall nightlife universe that these guys inhabit. Sheeesh! Can’t you at least stay with the facts?!
You love the word ‘pretending’. Isn’t life in the go gos pretending? Shit — I can go to Soi Cowboy and pay to get laid and pretend I’m sexy. I can go to a G-club and pay for conversation and pretend I’m interesting. The fact is, most people aren’t gonna get laid by a g-club girl unless they’ve got some ‘game’. Which environment is more real, and which one more ‘pretend’? Sheeesh! Think for a minute will ya?
Ah! The quality of the girls. Finally you said something sensible. The hostesses that work in the clubs wouldn’t be there if they were from rich families with an excellent upbringing. They are working girls. The dancers are almost exclusively university students who are trying to earn some spending money while they pretend to study. Because these clubs are designed for Asian clientele, the girls tend to be taller and lighter skinned than the girls who work in the go gos. Better quality? Balderdash! Give me an Isaan farm girl any day. Good on ya CheapoLay… you got one right.
I’ll ask you a straightforward question… Have you ever actually been in a G-club?
I’m confident that the answer is no, because what you describe has little to do with the reality of what the place is.
You continue to miss the point. A g-club isn’t a replacement for a go go bar or a soapie massage joint — it’s a supplement to them. A different night out.
I don’t know about you but some nights I go shopping and other nights to the movies. Sometimes I even stay at home and watch TV or read a book. I don’t judge the value of every experience or every baht I spend based on whether or not it led directly to getting laid.
I don’t love g-clubs; in fact I am one of the guys here that doesn’t like them. But I know why I don’t like them because I’ve visited a few to see what’s on offer.
Here are the facts.
The clubs are generally large, well decorated and comfortable.
There is decent quality live entertainment.
There are lots of girls, and most of them are attractive.
The service is above average, and often highly personalized.
When you provide better surroundings, live entertainment, pretty girls and high quality service you can charge more than the average go go bar, which typically offers a small venue with dingy decor and average or below average service.
That’s just the way it works. It’s why some people will pay extra to put premium gasoline in their car while others won’t.
It isn’t a go go bar replacement, and if you don’t drink beer or whiskey it probably isn’t for you. But that doesn’t make it a rip-off either.
Me, I don’t really like the music on offer in most of these places, and I am not interested in paying a hostess to sit with me so I don’t go to any G-clubs except the Pent.
Why the Pent? Because the disco is in a separate room and the coyote dancing runs uninterrupted. The coyote girls are almost all uni girls, and generally very good dancers. I don’t have to buy drinks for them to get them to talk and laugh with me; it’s part of what they do. In that sense it’s probably CHEAPER than a go go where a girl only spends time with me if I’m buying her drinks. I get to laugh and feel good for a while — kind of like going to a funny movie, only in this one I get to feel the soft warm flesh up close to me.
The downside is that, because I don’t ‘got game’ I don’t get laid by these young beauties at the end of the night. No problem. A two minute cab ride or a ten minute walk and I can grab a hooker from Nana Plaza to round out my night.
Sheeesh! Figure it out already, will ya? I’m getting tired of having to explain it to you.
View all comments by werewolf
I can drink soda water in any other night life place without feeling like I am going to chicken noodle shop and asking for pork noodle soup. I am not forced to buy whiskey anywhere else that I don’t drink to the tune of 20,000 Baht, that’s the point.
I’ve been to Piano and another one and I can’t even remember the name of it was so forgetful. I was forced to go there to please a friend who was a member otherwise you wouldn’t catch me dead in a place like that filled with primarily Asian business men. The fake smiles and chit chat with the girls pretending I was of interest to them was so heavy I immediately wanted to make a stampede for the door. Not only that, white skin and tall doesn’t make girls pretty. And education certainly doesn’t make them pretty either. Many looked flabby and out of shape and some were turning the corner already. Sure, they have a bit more money to dress better, and carry themselves a bit better, but who the hell cares what a hooker wears? If I wanted to talk to educated Thai girls who were from what you consider to be better social backgrounds, I wouldn’t be hunting them down in a G-Club for jeep-sakes.
This whole conversation seems stupid because you are trying to convince people that to meet good well educated, well spoken Thai girls one should go to a G-Club where everyone is busy trying to lighten your wallet and not your ball sack? Pathetic. You are buying into that whole concept that there are real girls in there. That’s where you have fallen down the rabbit hole it seems.
So don’t worry, I know what it is all about. I rather go out with real female Thai friends in a normal non-male dominated subservient atmosphere and talk to them if I just want “educated conversation” which is what you claim you are getting out of a G-Club rather than to pay someone to talk to me who just wants me to fund her way into her cell phone change of the month. Have some self respect will ya?
I think your problem is you still have difficulty in separating the different shades of gray in this country and knowing which shades are the same and which ones aren’t.
Yeah B, that’s f..ken what time it is, Oh!
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CL: If you actually paid attention this wouldn’t go on any longer.
You’re not personally forced to join a g-club at all, you can’t be screwed out of your 20K if you just keep it in your wallet. What g-clubs are selling is whiskey. Everything that surrounds it, including the music and the girls, is there to sell the whiskey.
You keep making the mistake of thinking that they are selling the girls,which is what a go go bar does. In a go go bar, they provide whiskey and beer to support the business of selling the girls, not the other way around. Until you understand that, you’ll just keep repeating yourself.
This isn’t a go go bar, and no matter how much you think it is, it’s not going to be.
So that means you’re not a g-club customer… you’re not buying whiskey or beer. That’s fine, but a lot of people are, and obviously a certain number of them enjoy the atmosphere of the club, and enjoy it enough to pay a reasonable price for the package they get.
It’s insulting to read you write again and again that people don’t have self respect because on some nights they choose to drink in clean club with decent music and comfortable surroundings. Get real, man! Nobody wants to hear you keep mouthing off about how stupid you think they are!
You’re so intent on arguing that you don’t even pay attention. You’re telling me that I said that the girls were better looking, more intelligent and from better social backgrounds. Sheeesh! If you want to argue, at least argue about the right things.
I said quite specifically that the girls were not from better social backgrounds, that they weren’t prettier or more interesting. Some people find the girls hotter, but I thought I was pretty clear that I think they are giggly, sophomoric cheerleader types… good for a laugh and a cuddle (which I’m happy to have occasionally and willing to pay for). I certainly never claimed that any of them was offering stimulating conversation!
On top of it all, I’ve said every time that I’ve typed something about g-clubs on this blog site that I don’t like them! I enjoy exactly ONE g-club I’ve been in — the Pent — because it’s set up differently from the others. I like the disco, and I NEVER pay hostesses to chat with me.
I don’t really give a shit whether you want to go into a g-club or not. For the most part I don’t want to spend time in them either.
What I do object to is your nasty insulting language towards me and anyone else whose ever paid a membership to a g-club. To wit:
“…I have already paid for what someone, who is silly enough to pay that sort of money, perceives as VIP service.”
“What’s point? To pay for people to pretend you’re rich, influential, important and respected? No need to pay for that if you have enough self respect. Sheesh!”
“…laugh at my stupid jokes and pretend I am interesting to them.”
“…without anyone pretending how handsome, smart, funny, and interesting you are not.”
“The only problem is you might at least have to try and pretend you are witty for a change.”
“I hope something here I said helps to wipe a bit of the star dust out of your eyes. Sheesh!”
“Have some self respect will ya?”
You can talk about how crappy g-clubs are all you want for all I care, but please cut out the ignorant insults that you keep sticking in about the paying customers.
Saying that g-club members are not handsome, smart, funny or interesting, or that they lack self-respect doesn’t make it so — it just makes you sound defensive and shrill.
author’s note: nothing in the above comment should be taken to imply that I, personally, see myself as handsome, funny or interesting. I do not… I am ugly, fat, bald, and dull. I do not delude myself into thinking otherwise when I pay a girl to spend time with me — either in a bar, or in a bedroom. I could no more bed a normal intelligent 25 year old Thai girl than I could make a running jump across the Grand Canyon. Amazingly, for someone as limited as myself, I do, however have large quantities of self-respect.
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Don’t worry B, I still like ya and try not to take all of this too seriously. Its just a good laugh. And if you take it too much to heart, which it seems oyu are, then it could put you to an early grave and then what would all those cute little girls do without ya My Tirac…
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Gee, I would have thought the note at the end of my comment would have shown that I wasn’t too serious about it all. It’s only a freakin blog, not global warming.
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Now your catchin on Sista. Good on ya B.
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Don’t look in your rearview mirror, that’s not where you’ll see me.
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I don’t drive Essey.
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Wow, just found this post…
Being a member at quite a few G clubs, here is my take:
The scene has changed through the years. (like everything)
I use to remember the days of old orbit…with some customers spending obscene amounts of money on dancers…and never getting them.
These days are gone, PR/dancers are far more easy to score which might also explain why the “quality” if lower than 4-5 years ago.
I would like to say that pent is a bit of a special case among the coyote clubs.
This is the only club in all BKK with more than 15% of its customers who are farangs/foreigners. (I met quite a few G club owners who were introduced to me by a very good Thai friend).
Pegasus is not a G/coyote club: This is a high end brothel.
What can you expect in a gentlemen club/coyote club these days:
- Basic memberships are at around 20-30K baht for the ones with an “international clientele”, while most Thai market oriented clubs have memberships starting already at 10-15K bht.
This usually brings you 10 (or more) bottles of your favorite poison.
Calculate these amounts against your drinks at nana or cowboy, you will realise that you do not really loose money.
(even soi 33 is cheaper at happy hour than many places in nana and cowboy these days)
- The girls: Beauty is in the eye of the “beerholder”, still most clubs have on average ladies who are more beautiful than your standard nana bargirl.
- Customers: Do not expect to meet trash people (by trash I mean a drunken western man, smelly, rude etc…), this is why I like these places.
Of course, the clubs cater mainly to wealthy Thais and more than a few customers are there to “show off”.
- Why people go to G clubs: For Thais and Asians these places are similar to the places they have back home, they use clubs to unwind with colleagues or friends, many of these Asian people are “on the game” and this is why there is such a turnover among dancers.
Many dancers and PR end up being girlfriends or mia nois of wealthy men.
Westerners: Predominantly expats or regular visitors who have the means to pay the memberships.
Most of them also play the game like their Asian counterparts.
- The ladies: PR and dancers are quite easy to score (at least compared to the past). Some will do it for money, some not.
All are looking for the sugar daddy (read: Generous sponsor)
Yes, they are on the game like their sisters of nana but you still get ladies who are better educated and are usually able to speak about something else than som tam.
(and in clubs with some international customers they also have a better level of English)
All in all: If you do not go crazy on ladydrinks and tips then economically speaking G clubs are as cheap or even cheaper than other nightlife venues.
For sex-craved individuals: Quite easy to score if you are well-manered (and/or if your wallet is full enough) and the “pussy” is fresher.
Clubs? Good to have a night out especially if you have friends, better atmosphere, better quality of entertainment, better ladies
(and freebies do exist in G clubs…at least you do not give money to a girl for ST/LT)
Just think about the clubs as a long-term investment.
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man..I could write a FAQ on G-Clubs. Will do when I have the time for it.
CL: Stick to your nana girls. At least you get some guaranteed (as well as the other 50 guys she screw during the same month).
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theguru – don’t do a lot of big talking before u get writing. it might go over better. submit the faq and we will post it.
tricycle had his day as well:
http://www.bigmangobar.com/reader-submissions/2008/07/11/tricycles-guide-to-really-working-the-g-clubs-on-the-cheap/
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